Muller generator replication by Romerouk

[MonsieurM]

One thing to keep in mind is, man wrote the laws regarding the conservation of energy, not nature.
Nature writes it's own laws regardless of what man thinks or does.

amen

[Steve220]

If you haven't started replicating this device please don't place discouragement here, put actual test results if you think this thing doesn't work. Energy comes from the center of all things at all times, we need to understand this.
Let people experiment and learn, that is the only way, we know.
We also need to understand that we need to open up the possibility of such a thing to get it, otherwise it might be in front of our eyes all the times but we will fail to see it.

One thing to keep in mind is, man wrote the laws regarding the conservation of energy, not nature.
Nature writes it's own laws regardless of what man thinks or does.

[Xenomorph]

I am waiting on some DC to DC converters. they pull lots of current at low voltages. this is what i need according to the test results. and RomeroUK

I believe Romero found the same thing I have found that's why he had one on his motor. makes perfect sense now.

If you are getting all itchy while waiting for the DC DC converter to arrive, you might maybe wanna try a DC voltage regulator-type IC78XX, with xx being whatever voltage you are driving with. Romero did find them not working as i remember, but if you got some lying around, it might be worth a quick test. They probably don't offer enough load to source isolation like the DC DC converter.

I think the high RPM of your unit is part of the success. It sort of creates a forward slip to a slightly leading power factor which seems to happen at around 3600 RPM.

[Zooty]

I built a 200 turn 5 filar coil (4x0.8mm + 1x 0.5mm wire) with a ferrite core, and my machine was running using a DC motor.

the RPM when:
All of the filars were open 2610
When one filar is short 2145
When two filars are short 2175
When three filars are short 2295
When four filars are short 2445
When five filars are short 2490

As it is evident from these tests as the load increases the RPM increases, I wonder how much will it increase if more filars are added. I also tested at about 5400 RPM and the RPM drop was much less. I don't have the results at hand yet. This confirms the fact that the less the resistance of the coils + load becomes the less it will drag this system. Completely opposite to what mainstream teaches about Lenz.

More tests coming soon ...

Hi elias,

When you shorted each coil, were they shorted separately as in where there 5 separate shorts on one spool? Also, did you twist the strands?

Thanks

[elias]

this thing never "self ran" you all know it...romereo knew it....

If you haven't started replicating this device please don't place discouragement here, put actual test results if you think this thing doesn't work. Energy comes from the center of all things at all times, we need to understand this.
Let people experiment and learn, that is the only way, we know.
We also need to understand that we need to open up the possibility of such a thing to get it, otherwise it might be in front of our eyes all the times but we will fail to see it.

[elias]

I had a magnet collision. there is neo all over the house.
At the price theses things are going up to. Not Happy.
Any way i wanted to change the bearing so will do that make repairs and back on track first thing in the morning.
I was just moving the second coil in to place when I lost it. the motor was all ready at 4000 Rpm when it hit
As i said you must bring the motor up to speed before you insert the generator coils.

BECAREFUL, I use some 2mm plexiglass to cover my magnets, this can be very dangerous.

[elias]

I am waiting on some DC to DC converters. they pull lots of current at low voltages. this is what i need according to the test results. and RomeroUK

I believe Romero found the same thing I have found that's why he had one on his motor. makes perfect sense now.

That's the WAY to GO!!! Bravo. I am starting to feel like a idiot, I wonder why I abandoned my Muller project 3 years ago, I guess I got distracted with other projects. And most of the people did not give much credit to Thane's work back then. Sometimes we feel this might be too good to be true. That's why we should keep our attitude in a state that we see such things as obvious. Everything in the universe is in a state of perpetual motion.

[elias]

An Update

I built a 200 turn 5 filar coil (4x0.8mm + 1x 0.5mm wire) with a ferrite core, and my machine was running using a DC motor.

the RPM when:
All of the filars were open 2610
When one filar is short 2145
When two filars are short 2175
When three filars are short 2295
When four filars are short 2445
When five filars are short 2490

As it is evident from these tests as the load increases the RPM increases, I wonder how much will it increase if more filars are added. I also tested at about 5400 RPM and the RPM drop was much less. I don't have the results at hand yet. This confirms the fact that the less the resistance of the coils + load becomes the less it will drag this system. Completely opposite to what mainstream teaches about Lenz.

More tests coming soon ...

Edit:
The dimensions of my coils are as follows:
Core Diameter: 40mm
Length: 70mm
Overall Diameter: 60mm
Magnet Diameter: 45mm

[toranarod]

Rod how many coils do you think before you reach a unity situation? What are you using to short your generator coils?

I am waiting on some DC to DC converters. they pull lots of current at low voltages. this is what i need according to the test results. and RomeroUK

I believe Romero found the same thing I have found that's why he had one on his motor. makes perfect sense now.

[toranarod]

collision

I had a magnet collision. there is neo all over the house.
At the price theses things are going up to. Not Happy.
Any way i wanted to change the bearing so will do that make repairs and back on track first thing in the morning.
I was just moving the second coil in to place when I lost it. the motor was all ready at 4000 Rpm when it hit
As i said you must bring the motor up to speed before you insert the generator coils.

[redrichie]

Rod how many coils do you think before you reach a unity situation? What are you using to short your generator coils?

[Steve220]

Great news

I am adding a second coil.

we will see what happens

Can't wait to see the results. Thanks.

Steve

[toranarod]

a second coil

I am adding a second coil.

we will see what happens

[redrichie]

redisnoc, maybe you should "consider" the statement by 142857. NO ONE, not even Toranarod, Skycollection, Lidmotor, Bolt, or anyone else I forgot to mention has replicated this device. And they are some of the best guys around. I am not saying it is impossible by any means. And I think Rod is on to something real here. He has taken a real scientific approach to the device and his own instincts, and shown data. But no one has replicated the Romero device and Romero said no one would. He said it was a hoax. Do I believe that? I dont want to. But the facts are the facts. He wont speak on the device, for whatever excuses he has stated. Whatever they are I dont care, Its his business. Its his machine. and it will be his conscious if it is a hoax. Most here are dedicated to the science and someone will succeed. despite what that jaded, jaded 142857 has to say. I feel people are so close to success that it wont be long.
Dont doubt 142857 hasnt built anything. He has a few really fantastic machines. A small Bedini that has a nearly 1 to 1 charging, that I feel is unity when you factor in the mechanical work being done. But even right in front of him he dont belive. Some never will. He also has a Bedini pendulum that runs on 1 AA batt for weeks. SUPER!!.
ROD, keep it up my friend, sooo close. "Consider", dont start the flaming here. 142857, when we're old we can sit back and have a drink and watch my fantastic selfrunning device powering all the lights in my house and have a good laugh at the journey and debates we had to get there. And for once I may win an argument. Even if its because your older than me and will be bald and senile.

[Redisnoc]

LAW: you can not create energy

Nope,
Cannot create energy...
...however, not allowing humanity to dip into the Victorian PROOF's whereby the giants Crookes, Tesla, Langmuir ( and others), "tweeked" the Universe and the Universe freely gave extra from a place not regulated by the "rules of the elite"--as the Universe manages quite well under its own rules...

So Romero was able to get "in the groove", and on your say so, it was a hoax.

Re: Bedini
Rush out and show a way so as 4+ Billion people (most of the others are starving because of greed and control and have no way to use gas) quit buying gas and oil--and electricity from the humming wires and see how well you fare. 10+ Trillion dollars renewable annually is enough to cause this group (elite) to get hurt feelings.
Go ahead, do it....
But like JB said, "Ask a skeptic if he has ever built a machine and he will tell you: "Why, they don't work""
So, why bother--
a.) A skeptic
b.) a troll?
R