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  • woopy
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    Hi all

    just my experiment fot today and tanks to all helpers and replicators

    hopes this helps

    good night at all

    laurent

    YouTube - fantastic mixture of great idea .wmv

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  • DrStiffler
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    Originally posted by Jbignes5 View Post
    My work room is actually shaded pretty good so i doubt it has anything to do with solar action... Also I am sad to admit it but my ac capacitor doesn't work..

    Doctor could you explain the current leads voltage that you say on your website. I could have sworn it was the other way around (Voltage leads current).
    Doctor could you explain the current leads voltage that you say on your website. I could have sworn it was the other way around (Voltage leads current)
    Where have you seen this stated for a capacitor charging? An empty cap is a direct short to the charging source when the source is first applied.

    Check this out; HyperPhysics

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  • DrStiffler
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    Originally posted by ibpointless2 View Post
    DrStiffler, what if the LED amp draw gets so low that the LED will pick up more ambient light from the room and have that feed back to the battery to keep the battery voltage the same or going up? What we forget is that the LED can be used a solar panel, and if it light from the room starts to be greater than the power being consumed one could assume that it might, just might be self running?

    Or one could just hook a small solar panel, like i did in a previous post, up to recollect the "wasted" light energy of the LED and feed that small but useful power back to the battery.

    I know it sounds crazy, so what do you think?

    And what do you mean "phantom diode"?
    up more ambient light from the room and have that feed back to the battery to keep the battery voltage the same or going up? What we forget is that the LED can be used a solar panel,
    IMHO that could not happen as you stated. If the LED is emitting light and you were also absorbing photons, you would have two currents, each going in an opposite direction. It is indeed possible to use even a simple glass diode to act in a charging way, although I have never seen two currents of e- going in different directions at the same time. You would not get a = b+c, rather a=b-c.

    I do not feel a self running circuit must meet the rule of no power source. Even if it is used for polarization only I fully feel a source is needed, although the circuits are configured so that return or cohered energy is properly steered back for source less work.

    Phantom Diode, see the page I did for your circuit http://67.76.235.52/capret.htm
    Last edited by DrStiffler; 11-10-2010, 10:49 PM.

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  • redrichie
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    Electricity, I do not doubt your technical prowess in any way. No one here worships DR. Stiffler, (Doctor, not just some guy down the block) he has contributed much of his time, intelligence, and technology to this forum. His insights are always welcome. We have had problems with this type of thing before and it really causes a ruckus. Please keep to the science and leave the fast balls to other members at home. I have nothing to contribute to this thread at this time, so that is all I will be able to say. Thanks and keep up the good work
    Originally posted by electricity View Post
    looked around and found a real dead 12v car battery, walmart 80 ah

    Starting = 7.2v

    Got lights of america 35 watts gutted LED

    16kv 1.2 uf caps in series

    runnig now, other set up is climbing nicely.

    gotta go, will let it run 24hrs qnd will post results tomorrow

    @All
    Stop worshipping Stiffler, I'm getting a Doctorate in Divinity from PNG University, soon I'll be Dr. electricity
    Last edited by redrichie; 11-10-2010, 10:10 PM.

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  • Jbignes5
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    Can't be collecting light...

    Originally posted by ibpointless2 View Post
    DrStiffler, what if the LED amp draw gets so low that the LED will pick up more ambient light from the room and have that feed back to the battery to keep the battery voltage the same or going up? What we forget is that the LED can be used a solar panel, and if it light from the room starts to be greater than the power being consumed one could assume that it might, just might be self running?

    Or one could just hook a small solar panel, like i did in a previous post, up to recollect the "wasted" light energy of the LED and feed that small but useful power back to the battery.

    I know it sounds crazy, so what do you think?

    And what do you mean "phantom diode"?
    My work room is actually shaded pretty good so i doubt it has anything to do with solar action... Also I am sad to admit it but my ac capacitor doesn't work..

    Doctor could you explain the current leads voltage that you say on your website. I could have sworn it was the other way around (Voltage leads current).
    Last edited by Jbignes5; 11-10-2010, 10:15 PM.

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  • Joit
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    What we forget is that the LED can be used a solar panel, and if it light from the room starts to be greater than the power being consumed
    I will doubt that, because i did let my Circuit running at a more dark Enviroment,
    not really a Chance, that it can pick up lights.
    And still got different Results with different Capacitors.
    Would they only work as Storage for the Power from the Diode,
    it would not does make a different, what size you do use.

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  • ibpointless2
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    Originally posted by Jbignes5 View Post
    have you tried this setup yet?
    Yup got it running right now.

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  • ibpointless2
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    DrStiffler, what if the LED amp draw gets so low that the LED will pick up more ambient light from the room and have that feed back to the battery to keep the battery voltage the same or going up? What we forget is that the LED can be used a solar panel, and if it light from the room starts to be greater than the power being consumed one could assume that it might, just might be self running?

    Or one could just hook a small solar panel, like i did in a previous post, up to recollect the "wasted" light energy of the LED and feed that small but useful power back to the battery.

    I know it sounds crazy, so what do you think?

    And what do you mean "phantom diode"?

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  • Jbignes5
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    Have you...

    Originally posted by ibpointless2 View Post
    Hello everyone, great work so far. I didn't expect this captret thing to really take off this quick.

    I like to thank everyone for their great work with the Captret idea. I must admit i'm having fun and sure others are too.


    So let me throw another curve ball into the mix.

    I've got just a plain old captret circuit but this time with two capacitors, but this time i left some leads of the capacitors disconnected and for some odd reason it works. This is more pure captret than capacitor and i think if you keep adding more capacitors when the LED starts to get dim and it will pull it back to full brightness. I guess you could call this a captret in series since one - lead and one + lead is used in one of the capacitors. Let me know what you think.

    [ATTACH]6892[/ATTACH]
    have you tried this setup yet?

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  • DrStiffler
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    Done for now

    Well I think it is fully explained by the 'Phantom Diode' and all circuit I see out here will conform to that configuration.

    I see no OU at all, it does indeed consume energy, just make the correct measurements and it will be clear.

    I am open although if someone will show otherwise.

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  • DrStiffler
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    Originally posted by electricity View Post
    looked around and found a real dead 12v car battery, walmart 80 ah

    Starting = 7.2v

    Got lights of america 35 watts gutted LED

    16kv 1.2 uf caps in series

    runnig now, other set up is climbing nicely.

    gotta go, will let it run 24hrs qnd will post results tomorrow

    @All
    Stop worshipping Stiffler, I'm getting a Doctorate in Divinity from PNG University, soon I'll be Dr. electricity
    That may qualify you to be 'Dr. Babble' doubt it would qualify for your stated goal.

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  • ibpointless2
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    Hello everyone, great work so far. I didn't expect this captret thing to really take off this quick.

    I like to thank everyone for their great work with the Captret idea. I must admit i'm having fun and sure others are too.


    So let me throw another curve ball into the mix.

    I've got just a plain old captret circuit but this time with two capacitors, but this time i left some leads of the capacitors disconnected and for some odd reason it works. This is more pure captret than capacitor and i think if you keep adding more capacitors when the LED starts to get dim and it will pull it back to full brightness. I guess you could call this a captret in series since one - lead and one + lead is used in one of the capacitors. Let me know what you think.

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  • Jbignes5
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    Confirmed...

    You are correct about the ac polarization when measuring batteries but what I find funny is that if there is no ac signal then what is this doing? How is it that the battery is charging then?

    Stats: 8.12v dc on the battery now. I'm gonna try leds in series now and see if I get any better results....

    Update leds in series does not work.

    3 leds in parallel works and still gaining slowly. 4 leds in parallel and still charging.. Weird

    Hey guys I got a 35uf 250vac capacitor.. Do you think this would work as well? It pretty big....
    Rofl Docs site is loaded! Can't get access...
    Last edited by Jbignes5; 11-10-2010, 09:14 PM.

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  • electricity
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    Rising of the Dead

    looked around and found a real dead 12v car battery, walmart 80 ah

    Starting = 7.2v

    Got lights of america 35 watts gutted LED

    16kv 1.2 uf caps in series

    runnig now, other set up is climbing nicely.

    gotta go, will let it run 24hrs qnd will post results tomorrow

    @All
    Stop worshipping Stiffler, I'm getting a Doctorate in Divinity from PNG University, soon I'll be Dr. electricity

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  • sniky
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    Originally posted by Jbignes5 View Post
    Going strong with 2 leds in parallel running at 8.11 volts dc and 16.9 ac volts.. Going up... Run time about 1 hour.
    take any battery and on the AC reading you will see double the voltage in one way, 0 the other way
    I made some tests before this thread

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