Captret - Perpetual Light with Dead Batteries

[Joit]

[rave154]

dragon.........

thats what it looks like to me.....a relaxation circuit........a strange one for sure though

keep it up though jbig....let us know what you find

[Jbignes5]

Status update...

Going strong with 2 leds in parallel running at 8.11 volts dc and 16.9 ac volts.. Going up... Run time about 1 hour.

[dragon]

Dr. Stiffler, I noticed your schematic on your site was reversed, shouldn't the positive of the battery go to the positive side of the cap? Your showing it on the neg side of the cap... I'm not sure it would make a difference - just an observation...
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[electricity]

Yes, yes and yes ... Captret

Ok, I'm stepping this up.

Got lights of america 35 watts gutted.

3kv 2.4 uf caps in series

12v lead acid battery (2 Interstate Batteries U2200 Deep Cycle in series)

Starting volt=13.2

This is so much fun

[dragon]

It's possible because of the resistance, as well as using 3 plates of the cap it creates a relaxation oscillator.

I've tried quite a few different caps and they all work to some degree but the 220uf is the best of the batch. I've used a 1uf, 47uf, 220uf, 330uf and a 10000 uf. Oddly enough the 220 uf seems to maintain itself after it's disconnected from the circuit. I noticed that while driving Dr. Stifflers Sec18 unit I disconnected the ground and it continued to run for several minutes after producing very good output on an LED right to the end.

When driving an LED only the 220 uf will light the LED for almost 15 minutes after disconnecting it... slowly loosing brightness over time of course. This has been the best one so far...
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[Jbignes5]

Great...

I can confirm this works even with a gel cell battery. I am gaining voltage on the battery as we speak and the led is lit!

I am using a single 12v dc gel cell with 12 ah that was really bad off. It is gaining charge slowly. I can confirm the results as well..

The cap I am using is a 470 uf 200v cap.I originally started at 8.52 volts and after a lowering in the beginning it is back upto 8 volts atm after 5 minutes. I also have a 16.7 volt ac signal across the battery as well and is now 16.8 ac volts.

I suspect this is because we have changed the capacitor in the way we use it. It is now two polarized capacitors in one. They are playing off one another creating a resonance of a sort and oscillating. With the led being the resistance.

Putting two leds in parallel lowers the voltage .03 then quickly raises back up. and still is gaining. ac is still. 16.8 volts and holding after 5 minutes with two leds...

[DrStiffler]

Are the batteries you are using fully charged? Also the huge clip lead that you are using might be throwing it off some.

If you look at the first time when you checked the capacity of the can to the leads you can see that the capacitance is changing, going in the downward direction. I know this is due to the charging of the cap but I think this might be part of the equation.

Lead acid batteries might not work in this instance as well since they don't seem to have a memory type effect like alkaline or rechargeable batteries do. I think he is playing the two effects off of one another here. Since capacitors do the same type of thing due to the dielectric polarization of the cap. It would be like putting two drum skins on angle and dropping a golf ball onto one. It would bounce to the other and back and forth. It could be where he is getting the ac from on top of the dc of the battery.

@Jbignes5
No,no and no. We have a handle on it now and instead of the time it takes for video's I will do a page on my sight and post the link here so people can watch it as we add info. It will be http://67.76.235.52/capret.htm. Have some up soon.

[electricity]

translation please

I got these door knob millitary HV caps from russia.

Label reads
KBN 3-2200n +-20% 10XB 0278

What is the rating?.

I want to run a test with this cap.

@Lidmotor,
great video, that's how I found this. Great job, you are extraordinary

@Dr. Stiffler,
Get off you high makamaka and be like us, admit it that you're just another lunatic getting your fix or else you're a PTB manipulating us

@All, great job. Keep up the spirit. Before you know it, we'll be energy free!

[Jbignes5]

Dr. Stiffler

Are the batteries you are using fully charged? Also the huge clip lead that you are using might be throwing it off some.

If you look at the first time when you checked the capacity of the can to the leads you can see that the capacitance is changing, going in the downward direction. I know this is due to the charging of the cap but I think this might be part of the equation.

Lead acid batteries might not work in this instance as well since they don't seem to have a memory type effect like alkaline or rechargeable batteries do. I think he is playing the two effects off of one another here. Since capacitors do the same type of thing due to the dielectric polarization of the cap. It would be like putting two drum skins on angle and dropping a golf ball onto one. It would bounce to the other and back and forth. It could be where he is getting the ac from on top of the dc of the battery.

[DrStiffler]

YouTube - Testing the CAPTRET circuit

I will add corrections when I can get to where it is fully processed as there are two statements I made in error. The open lead capacity reading is 0.nnn nF and not n.n nF. Also the capacity of leads to can are n.0nn uF and not n.nnn uF. The values I state don't match the meter reading.

Anyway this is the first try.

@All

Okay 'MY SCREWUP' Conrad has it working and the only difference is I misread Lidmotors diagram or shall I say (assumed) and I was connecting the +V lead to the can, Conrad did it right, so now we will test.

[DrStiffler]

First Test Video

YouTube - Testing the CAPTRET circuit

I will add corrections when I can get to where it is fully processed as there are two statements I made in error. The open lead capacity reading is 0.nnn nF and not n.n nF. Also the capacity of leads to can are n.0nn uF and not n.nnn uF. The values I state don't match the meter reading.

Anyway this is the first try.

[Lidmotor]

Do the original circuit---please

@Lidmotor & ALL

I am dismayed at first as the diagram I used was the same as what you initially showed and as the video will show I obtained nothing. So... I am waiting for someone to show what circuit they want as a test? The simple first circuit like you diagrammed and I tested, or the one using the Vceb of a 2N2222?

Come on fellows what is working that we can test, this is not a normal offer.

Please just do the original circuit first. It should instantly work. I used standard white LEDs like we have been using and just a 9 volt battery. You have to have a good connection to the metal can of the cap. The size of the little cap may have something to do with why this works. I just don't know. If you just put a high enough resistor in series with the battery and use no cap, the results look similar but----the amp draw is constant and doesn't vary like when you use the cap.

Lidmotor

[electricity]

Cheapo LED charger

Start =New 9 volt battery

2 hrs run = 9.9v under load.

[Armagdn03]

Is ceramic conductive? I have some laying around and might try. You might want to try the SGATE idea of a coil around it?

Ceramics are generally fantastic insulators, hence their use as high K dielectrics and use as thermal shielding.