Captret - Perpetual Light with Dead Batteries

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Super F cells

Really? Would you like to explain how you started at 12.5v with a 9v battery?

meter read 12.5v start. I've had some phenomena recently. Must be my new cotton insulated tesla coil.

seriously, my flashlight has 5 leds ran with 400v 1000 uf (2 caps in series)

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Super X cap

I got a bunch of these HV caps from Russia, originally for replication of a Don Smith devise, BS schematic dont work,

May be I can use em for this circuit.

Got some 16kv 470 nf and 3kv 2200nf, metal caps

Any suggestions?. Dont want acid spewing

[DrStiffler]

@ Ibpointless, Dr. Stiffler, & All
I worked on this today and got good results. Dr. Stiffler-- I studied your work on this at the link that you gave and did a replication using my SEC 15-3. I got hung up on the Joules calculations otherwise I would be posting those results. All I can say is that my results looked good but not like what you had. My setup just isn't adequate to do precision work with accurate measurements. What I did see was very impressive though. A big cap charged up super fast when it was hooked up to the SEC and the earth ground through an AV plug.
The testing with the Captret was very interesting and after I got it to working the original way, of course I had to mess with it a bit. This is the video of what happened.

YouTube - Captret replication.ASF

Cheers,

Lidmotor

@Lidmotor
Both Conrad and myself have set this afternoon aside to look into this in a straight forward way. Luckily every thing is in place for such a study because of the ESEG work from some months back. Anyway once the data is in I will post it here.

[Zooty]

this is a good little circuit. I hooked up flashlight leds to a new 9 voll battery. Ran lights for 1 hr. Start=12.5v Finish 12.9v 1 hr rest 13.6v

Hooked up to 2 x 200v 1000 uf caps in series.

Played with 1 x 250v 2400 uf and 2 x 250v 2400 uf works good too. Now gotta look for dead battery and try lidmotors variant

Lets scale em up boys, 12v lead acid battery. Need huge caps.

Really? Would you like to explain how you started at 12.5v with a 9v battery?

[Joit]

A better test might be to use a 1 farad cap as the power source this way the energy could be calculated and compared a little easier.


Voltage is a poor indicator of the batteries state of charge, it will consume amp/hours while maintaining voltage until it can no longer sustain voltage as it is depleted. There really isn't any way to calculate the actual charge in a battery.

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Cheapo charger

Your 3x 4300uf caps where to big, the bigger they are the longer the LED takes to turn on; my 1F super cap to 30 minutes before i could see any light. once full brightness you can disconnect them from the battery and have it run a good bit of time!

The light will get dim, but it find a spot and stay there. i do say the 47uf are very unique.

Something unique to try is to disconnect the led and just tap the lead, you get a short bright burst of light; that means that the captret part recharges it self in short burst. That burst is what we need to be focusing on.

this is a good little circuit. I hooked up flashlight leds to a new 9 voll battery. Ran lights for 1 hr. Start=12.5v Finish 12.9v 1 hr rest 13.6v

Hooked up to 2 x 200v 1000 uf caps in series.

Started with small 36v cap, very dim light, 50v, dim, 200v brighter, 250v is good brighteness.
I have some door knob 15kv ceramic caps from Russia. How would one use those. Will foil wrap outside work?.

Played with 1 x 250v 2400 uf and 2 x 250v 2400 uf works good too. Now gotta look for dead battery and try lidmotors variant

Lets scale em up boys, 12v lead acid battery. Need huge caps.

[ibpointless2]

Your 3x 4300uf caps where to big, the bigger they are the longer the LED takes to turn on; my 1F super cap to 30 minutes before i could see any light. once full brightness you can disconnect them from the battery and have it run a good bit of time!

The light will get dim, but it find a spot and stay there. i do say the 47uf are very unique.

Something unique to try is to disconnect the led and just tap the lead, you get a short bright burst of light; that means that the captret part recharges it self in short burst. That burst is what we need to be focusing on.

[ibpointless2]

Anyone else seeing the bigger picture here? the captret takes DC voltage and transformers it into AC. Its got to be the simplest inverter, enough voltage and you could run you TV on it. And its more efficient than the normal inverter due to its ONE component setup.


And those that wonder why i call it the "captret" is because it was a capacitor that acted like a electret. Charge the cap first, then test the top of the cap with a multimeter to the positive of the lead and watch the voltage go down, remove connection from multimeter and wait a minute and then reconnect to see the voltage has bounced back up just like a electret. I've been trying to tap that effect, and that has lead me to making the LED driver captret circuit.

[Joit]

[Jbignes5]

Oh yes...

@Jbignes5
Apology accepted.

Have you seen any of the video's or postings in my thread on the SGATE? The SGATE is a structure using a three plate (although in many configurations hard to see plates) capacitor where one is 'parasitic'. Granted this does not match what is going on here with the simple configurations, yet I feel comfortable that it is taking place for the same reason.

I am very familiar with your studies. It is interesting parallel to your work but he doesn't seem to need the sec to get this to work. That to me is the most interesting development. The sgate is a very interesting concept and I know it looks the same but I think there is something more to this then just the sgate configuration although it is somewhat parallel to your work.

Heya Lid.. Excellent video! I am a fan of yours as well lol...

[lokke]

Hello says a little bit crazy Swedish amateur.
it is very fun to follow all the experiments. and then try to replicate them.
Do not ask me why, just a thought I had Could it have something to do with orgone with this?
If you look at the orgone acumulator ............... hmmm


Roger

[Lidmotor]

It Works!!!

@ Ibpointless, Dr. Stiffler, & All
I worked on this today and got good results. Dr. Stiffler-- I studied your work on this at the link that you gave and did a replication using my SEC 15-3. I got hung up on the Joules calculations otherwise I would be posting those results. All I can say is that my results looked good but not like what you had. My setup just isn't adequate to do precision work with accurate measurements. What I did see was very impressive though. A big cap charged up super fast when it was hooked up to the SEC and the earth ground through an AV plug.
The testing with the Captret was very interesting and after I got it to working the original way, of course I had to mess with it a bit. This is the video of what happened.

YouTube - Captret replication.ASF

Cheers,

Lidmotor

[ibpointless2]

Hello,

Please find attached the derived circuit. I hope this helps (esp. in response to ibpointless' last post).

I hope to be replicating with all of you in the near future

Best regards,

Great work!

I really like the idea, this is what i was trying to make; all i need to do now is make it.


To keep things more interesting I've added something quite interesting to spark a few peoples minds. The LED is light, a form of energy, so why not put that to work? I've added a simple solar panel so that you can place it above the LED to recollect the wasted light energy. It puts no extra load on the circuit but it may need a transformer hooked up to it, i'm sure the voltage will be in the millivolt range but that something small can add up quick!

Hi ibpointless

Thanks for this idea

I tried a replication and here my results.

1- I tried the circuit you proposed just above and get a nice blinking led but very poor result at the *top captret".

2- i replicated the circuit that i found in Artisan's post link , the circuit with 2 transistors (PNP and NPN). And it works much better. See pix of the circuit and the setup.

3- But what intrigues me is that at the beginning the Led conected to the 0 of the cap is bright and with the time it loose the brithness. Than i shorted the cap and redo the connection but the led did not get the original brigthness.

As if the captret loose is efficiency along the time

I have tried the system with many electrolitic cap and it seems that the more voltage and less capacitance is better. My last setup is with a 22 micro F and 450 volts.

Ofcourse all this need more testing.

In this respect i would like to thank Dr stiffler for his great link on his work, very interesting , and i tested a Slayer exciter and a AV plug to cap and Ground connection. Wowww the voltage just jump up in seconds.

OK for tonight

Laurent

Hello,

Please find attached the derived circuit. I hope this helps (esp. in response to ibpointless' last post).

I hope to be replicating with all of you in the near future

Best regards,

[woopy]

captret replication test

Hi ibpointless

Thanks for this idea

I tried a replication and here my results.

1- I tried the circuit you proposed just above and get a nice blinking led but very poor result at the *top captret".

2- i replicated the circuit that i found in Artisan's post link , the circuit with 2 transistors (PNP and NPN). And it works much better. See pix of the circuit and the setup.

3- But what intrigues me is that at the beginning the Led conected to the 0 of the cap is bright and with the time it loose the brithness. Than i shorted the cap and redo the connection but the led did not get the original brigthness.

As if the captret loose is efficiency along the time

I have tried the system with many electrolitic cap and it seems that the more voltage and less capacitance is better. My last setup is with a 22 micro F and 450 volts.

Ofcourse all this need more testing.

In this respect i would like to thank Dr stiffler for his great link on his work, very interesting , and i tested a Slayer exciter and a AV plug to cap and Ground connection. Wowww the voltage just jump up in seconds.

OK for tonight

Laurent