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I think you will fry the potentiometers if current draw is high. At least that is what happen to me when I try to divide HHO generator voltage with 1 Watt resistor, smell of burn......You can utilize PWM as voltage divider by varying duty cycle.
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@Aromaz, thanks, how little my knowledge is, never realize that there more than one company named Bakri
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I just know the basic in electronic, so I still do a lot of mistakes. I made a charger version of Imhotep Circuit (still don't have the neon and car coil yet) which can add 0.2 Volt an hour to almost dead 12V battery. It run quietly without capasitor, just a small buzz, so I leave it on for hours. But I fried a 0.5 watt speaker spool just now, thinking that it can make better EMF. I remove the magnet from the speaker, install it in parallel with the relay coil. When I turn it on, a lot of smoke....
I also wonder how this back EMF work. I tried it to use it in electrolysis but failed. At least I can make a variable current limiter with the relay:
YouTube - simple pwm from relay
I notice some shock in the coil part when I touch it. Almost felt like wall electrical shock. I also think that no diode can prevent this shock, I try to place it anywhere but still feel it. This is also the reason I ask if experiment using 220VAC relay and 220VAC electricity is safe to other electronic device currently attached to the same wall outlet. I became more cautious when reading that Shiva computer power supply died for unknown reason.
If transistor dies easily using solid state, I guess doing experiment with mechanical relay is safer / cheaper / more reliable.
Would the HV scattered everywhere too if the circuit is made closed?
Would the radiant energy can be stopped with coil? Maybe a coil before collapse point to protect component. Or this coil would increase the back EMF instead and destroy the component more? I still curious to know what happen if we use huge air core coil before collapse point.Last edited by sucahyo; 12-30-2008, 09:07 AM.
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Aromaz
Eagerly awaiting that video Aromaz...
Tonight I'm making a power supply. I'm going to use a bridge rectifier from mains to get dc, then potentiometers as both a voltage divider and current divider. Also, going to use resistors from same mains to power a small meter, with a switch to measure amps and voltage from the first circuit... Will post video on separate thread :-) came to the idea after I lost step down transformer and realised pc power box was stuffed
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@sucahyo
We are Bakri Cono and not related to Bakri of Indonesia. My partners are Saudi.
Yes, on solid state will be difficult, though you can get them to oscillate in LC circuit, then branch out form there. Sounds like you are familiar with electronics.
For the beginning and to get into this, you can also use another cheap 4 pin relay often used in washing machines or on pumps. In fact you can use just about any relay; I find all are working, will just need to play around to get them self oscillating.
Toshiba is OK, but it does need ground kick-start to base of 2222 all the time.
Else the Toshiba actually gives higher frequency and better light, though sometimes a bit flashing. Good enough to start with; if you already have them. Toshiba is anyway the cheapest 3055 in Thailand!
There is charging to the battery, however my circuit has a problem there.
You will have to use the basic Bedini circuit and charge back from the transistor......
Only, then you can not use the ignition coil from where back EMF is way out too strong and transistor blows in seconds.
On my circuit the energy gets too high and parts like resistor and diodes are just getting useles.
For instance I have now a unique 1,000 Volt Diode - and still the BEMF just goes right accross it (as in over/around/outside...), same with whatever I tried from 4001 upwards. NOTE: Accross; it does not even stop the energy nor gets warm from trying to block it......
I have the circuit completley isolated from coils by spark gap as well as HV germanium diodes; then after a few minutes anything in the ciruit becomes to HV charges it sparks 8+ mm - even on the casing of the battery! All this time the HV from ignition coil is not connected to any part of the circuit or battery - it is only going to a set of tubes far away from the circuit with no return to battery or anything else - one wire out only.
There are two kinds of electricity -
A) the usual one which is dependant on electrons and which are passed inside a conductor. No conductor = no energy
B) Radiant which is not restricted nor limited by a conductor. I don't think we will be able to capture this monste in a 'cage'; at best we will have to use it on the run and might only be able to capture his tracks or results. This I find to date can not be restricted by diodes, resistors and is not storable in the capacitor either. In all cases it just goes 'around' or through whatever is in it's way. I am still studying this phenomena - THIS is the energy I am targeting.
I will clip another short video today with the HV effect that are not where they are suppose to be. BTW - in this testrun I will use the Toshiba 3055'sLast edited by Aromaz; 12-30-2008, 08:08 AM.
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@Aromaz, Terima kasih
. I realize that you must know Indonesia when you work at Bakri company, I download all of your video
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I'll try to find the component you mention, thanks
. I currently have Toshiba 3055, I guess I have to find the better one before start experimenting the solid state version.
About the 4 leg relay, I mean that I don't think we can modify the 4 leg solid state version like we can do to mechanical version. I think the solid state relay that Inquorate mention is somekind of optocoupler.
I have been thinking of utilizing some kind of solid state relay, looking for candidate like MOSFET, IGBT, thrystor, SCR, etc. But all of them seems to work as switch on device with no contact for self trigger. We have to use external oscillation for trigger. I have 4 leg optocoupler which I try to make it self oscillate, failed.
The best example of self oscillating solid state would be your circuit. Can we charge battery using 2N2222A+2N3055 circuit?Attached FilesLast edited by sucahyo; 12-30-2008, 07:13 AM.
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@sucahyo; Selamat Datang! I have resort on Lembeh in Sulut.Originally posted by sucahyo View PostAll of them seems to have 4 legs. Can we really use them? I don't think we can do leg add trick as Imhotep do on automotive relay. That look more like optocoupler than 5 leg relay. It would be nice if there are solid state 5 leg relay.
@Aromaz, nice info about the difference of 2N2222A. I read that some of them may not even work as negative resistor. I hope the one I got (it is rare here), KN2222A can work as negative resistor.
KN2222A works fine, KSP 2222A is best and you can find them pleunty in Indo too. I think at present it is more important to use ST 3055's (These you will find are from Malaysia), do not use the Toshiba, Motorolla or Mitsubushi which you find mostly in Indo.
On original Imhothep circuit the 4x pin relay is working fine. See my video #02 and 03. Though it is slightly better to use the Bosh automotive relay - because the colapse on the added coil gives a little more energy in the feed back.
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All of them seems to have 4 legs. Can we really use them? I don't think we can do leg add trick as Imhotep do on automotive relay. That look more like optocoupler than 5 leg relay. It would be nice if there are solid state 5 leg relay.Originally posted by Inquorate View PostSwitches 12v DC 3a
Jaycar Electronics
@Aromaz, nice info about the difference of 2N2222A. I read that some of them may not even work as negative resistor. I hope the one I got (it is rare here), KN2222A can work as negative resistor.Last edited by sucahyo; 12-30-2008, 05:23 AM.
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Can't seem to save an edit, so reposting...
I just went searching solid state relays for the shop I usually go to.. You're right, low amp (3) ones are not much more expensive. I must have seen the 100amp ones when I went looking before..
Here's some of what they've got, if anyone's interested :-)
Relays
Mechanical
Jaycar Electronics
Reed switch relay
Jaycar Electronics
Solid state
Switches ac only, runs off 3-32v dc
Jaycar Electronics
Runs off 12v DC, switches 100amps dc
Jaycar Electronics
Switches 12v DC 3a
Jaycar Electronics
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Relays
I just went searching solid state relays for the shop I usually go to.. You're right, low amp (3) ones are not much more expensive. I must have seen the 100amp ones when I went looking before..
Here's some of what they've got, if anyone's interested :-)
Relays
Mechanical
Jaycar Electronics
Reed switch relay
Jaycar Electronics
Solid state
Jaycar Electronics
Jaycar Electronics
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explanation
I want to make process explanation for Imhotep Radiant Oscillator in Indonesian language since I don't think it exist yet. But I like to know if the current flow I illustrate bellow is correct or not. I am using different coil for current collapsing part and use slower freq oscillation for easier explanation.
Initial state

Current (red arrow) will be charging capacitor and make magnetic force on the relay coil. Once the magnetic force able to pull the switch, it will go to second state.
Second state

Current from battery will make magnetic force in air core coil, where current from the capacitor will keep the magnetic force on the relay coil. Once the voltage of capacitor running out, it will go to third state.
Third state

Current from battery will be charging capacitor again, and also make magnetic force on the relay coil. But because of sudden collapse of current in the air core coil, back EMF (blue arrow) will be generated. The back EMF will charge the battery and some of them will light up the neon. Once the magnetic force able to pull the switch, it will go to second state.
The relay may not go to second state if the capacitor do not store enough current to keep the magnetic force pull the switch and keep the switch at on position.
If Neon replaced by car coil, the neon can light up brighter using the output of car coil but the primary of car coil will draw significant current if no diode is put between the car primary coil and positive power source.
@Inquorate, the relay currently noiseless just by shield it with book. For solid state, what part of them is expensive? I am thinking to use the first design of Bedini solid state charger, the one posted before the end page of panacea bocaf pdf. It seems the wire is the most expensive part.
Last edited by sucahyo; 12-30-2008, 04:25 AM.
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Pc case
I tried using a pc power supply from an imhotep fan as a virtual ground, and discovered I could light a neon off adjacent metal surfaces if I was holding one end... I'd forgotten about it actually..
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YouTube - UPDATE 27 TESLA WIRELESS RADIANT ENERGY TRANSMISSION HYBRID CIRCUIT Running at 36volts
Wireless lights.....check out the spark from 36 volt battery pack
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Ren,
I found a video that demonstrates how the direction of flow does change where the magnetic field around the wire is created.
For example, left to right flow only creates a top of the wire magnetic field,
right to left only creates bottom of the wire magnetic field.
Yes, there's a little on the opposite side, but the Major magnetic field is
created on only one side of the wire.
Video: wire loop test demos top side of wire then bottom side of wire magnetic field creation.
I don't know if this is common knowledge or uncommon knowledge.
as the video shows it.
It's new info to me
the top side, bottom side aspect.
Since all these experiments seem to be "touchy" maybe this has been
a possible factor influencing the effects.
follow my finger shows touching turning off and on a bulb.
Always just
and dang, the Faraday's Paradox was cool too.
Again, that was new info for me. Buddha would call me evil.
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I had that happen Nat......Why would it happen people?????Originally posted by nat1971a View Postin my replication of the aromaz circuit they were ST 3055's....works really well too.....really bright lights
i was fiddling with this cricuit the other day too and i got the lights even brighter but they were pulsing by connecting two earths.....one to base of 2n222 and the other to the lights....lights not connected to negative of ignition coil.....quite odd
In my last video i had two ground, I can also connect the two grounds to a coil in the ground and it still works, the coil is magnet wire. Im going to try a microwave transformer to see what happens and if i can get power from it.
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Originally posted by Lidmotor View PostI got the transistors at Radio Shack. The 2n3055s say Mospec on them and the package says made in the Philippines. The 2n2222s come in a package of 15 and who knows who makes those. The package even says 2n2222 "like" npn transistors.
I think that I will order the next batch from some where.
Lidmotor
I just got an order from www.jameco.com a couple days ago. 2222's are in a TO-18 package made by ST, only ones they had figured I'd try them. The 2n3055's are made by ST also.
I haven't had time to crack it open play around yet, girlfriend coming home soon after being in FL for a while. Had a bachelor life so I've been "straightening" up the house some.
I've got a whole bunch of goodies sitting here, anxious to start makin sparks.
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