ENLIGHTENED MAGNETISM (The Full Proof of Ken Wheeler's Theories)

[bistander]

The reason why I asked about the iron dust is because Im curious whats going on inside of that micron thin ferro suspension. Isn't the ferrous metal in the ferrocell aligning itself just like the iron dust in the pic i posted yesterday? Lol and the reason why I ask that is because I wondered what exactly is causing the incoherent light to become coherent? Then.....today I noticed Ken posted a video few days ago explaining just that, however Im still having trouble visualizing.

Hi Guy,

I've been curious about the images of ferrocells posted on these forums. It appears to me that the bulk of the lines pass through the magnet perpendicular to the direction of the magnetic field (instead of North-South, East-West, so-to-speak). Upon further search, I came across this discussion:
the Ferrocell

Notice the green image. These microscopic lines or features form in the thin layer of ferrofluid perpendicular to the magnetic field. It may be responsible for the orientation of the reflected/refracted light captured by the camera. Interesting read.

I'm just trying to figure this out. It is obvious that we are seeing an effect from the magnet but I am far from convinced we see a representation of the magnetic field.

Regards,

bi

[MRIGuy]

Hey Bistander, ok cool I'm new of course so was unsure. Unfortunately, I don't remember where I downloaded the 4th edition from, but can tell you it's from page 83 of the pdf I have downloaded. I recommend you check out "Video 18 Uncovering the Missing Secrets of Magnetism" on youtube where Ken talks about the dielectric inertial plane of the "Electric Field" which is composed of the Dielectric and Magnetic fields more commonly known as the Electromagnetic Field.

Regards,
Guy

[bistander]

Image source?

Oh and hey Bistander that pic is from Ken, hope I didnt break any rules by reposting it.

Regards,
Guy

Thanks. I'm not the copyright police so I don't know about breaking the rules. I was curious as to what was represented in the image. Can you provide a link to from which it came? I have some of Ken's stuff, but it is difficult to search; some documents don't even have page numbers.

bi

[MRIGuy]

Wow, UFO thank you so much for your reply!!!

As for the dielectric field in a permanent magnet, sounds like it's concentrated at the dielectric inertial plane (in pic below) as opposed to extending out in an electromagnetic field...

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Also, thanks for clarifying the misperception I had of the dielectric plane in an electromagnetic field in the pic you posted, makes perfect sense!

The reason why I asked about the iron dust is because Im curious whats going on inside of that micron thin ferro suspension. Isn't the ferrous metal in the ferrocell aligning itself just like the iron dust in the pic i posted yesterday? Lol and the reason why I ask that is because I wondered what exactly is causing the incoherent light to become coherent? Then.....today I noticed Ken posted a video few days ago explaining just that, however Im still having trouble visualizing.

Below is a pic of the dielectric inertial plane through a ferrocell of 0.3T vertical field permanent magnet that got me wondering why the colors seperate vertically if the iron in the ferrocell is indeed aligning vertically?

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I watched your latest video today, part 3 I believe and WOW!!! I will study that video more for sure! I had a hard time visualizing the flow after studying Ken's work however thats the first time Ive seen such beautiful animated 3d working models, my hats off to you sir! Before watching your latest video I visualized flow leaving the dielectric inertial plane, spinning out horizontally and returning centripetal at the N and S poles, just couldn't wrap my mind around how Ken explained leaving centrifugal and returning centripetal until your latest video.


I must ask, have you thought about building/experimenting with coil formations representing your 3d models? It seems to me rodin coils are 50% of the puzzle...

Last thought, the superconducting magnets used in MRI have a constant current flow that generates the magnetic field we use. These coils are immersed in liquid helium bringing the resistance to 0 so current continues to flow without any direct connection to power. Id like to believe someday we wont need liquid helium to create this sort of perpetual current flow...

Oh and hey Bistander that pic is from Ken, hope I didnt break any rules by reposting it.

Regards,
Guy

[Ufopolitics]

[Ufopolitics]

Refreshing Lenz Law and Newton's Third Law...

Lenz's law /ˈlɛnts/ is a common way of understanding how electromagnetic circuits obey Newton's third law and the conservation of energy. Lenz's law is named after German scientist Heinrich Lenz in 1834, and it says:

If an induced current flows, its direction is always such that it will oppose the change which produced it.

Lenz's law states that the current induced in a circuit due to a change or a motion in a magnetic field is so directed as to oppose the change in flux and to exert a mechanical force opposing the motion.

Now let's review Newton's Third Law, which Lenz Law OBEYS:

The third law states that all forces between two objects exist in equal magnitude and opposite direction: if one object A exerts a force FA on a second object B, then B simultaneously exerts a force FB on A, and the two forces are equal and opposite: FA = −FB. The third law means that all forces are interactions between different bodies, and thus that there is no such thing as a unidirectional force or a force that acts on only one body. This law is sometimes referred to as the action-reaction law, with FA called the "action" and FB the "reaction". The action and the reaction are simultaneous, and it does not matter which is called the action and which is called reaction; both forces are part of a single interaction, and neither force exists without the other.

Therefore, it may say that Lenz Law itself is "Qualitative" in description...However, it MUST obey Newton's 3rd Law which is completely Quantitative...meaning, a way of not "directly" assigning Lenz a Quantitative Property...However, it is.

I see all that above as a way to CONFUSE all of Us even more into something that works only on an assumption of a Theoretical Rigid Model which is based on Magnetized Iron Dust bridging.

Try turning a Fully Loaded Conventional Electric Generator...Then come back here and tell ME if Lenz is "Qualitative" and not fully QUANTITATIVE.

The verdict is simple, bolts down that ONLY the "Super-Herculean" Diesel or Gas Farting Engines would be able to do such work...very convenient Uh?

We keep pouring the stinking fluids by Gallons to get a light bulb turned on...pathetic!

And basically the point here is all about a Dogmatic Magnetic Model which forces all of Us to engage in this DIRECTIONAL* Action Reaction to obtain an EMF, where in reality it is absolutely NOT required to follow such linear vectors.
*DIRECTIONAL meaning where Both Vectors of Force, Plus(+) & (-) of identical MAGNITUDE travel within the same exact linear displacement.

It is so obvious that Two Forces, identical in Magnitude, opposed in Linear vectors gives Us a very big and absolute ZERO of definitively not "useful" work...So to obtain at least "some" Energy...we must spend minimum TWICE or Three times the applied Force to obtain some "drops" of power back...
And of course...forget about Overunity, or COP even equal to 1.

Such stupid constraints that they have imply for such a long time...but the worst part is that we all swallowed it, digest it, to defecated it later...to now witness how some of you still defend such stupidity.


On a side note...I really do not have the time to discuss this so obvious and very old Theories they have been feeding for over 200+ years... which eventually will collapse one after the other, like Dominoes chips... when just ONE SINGLE Model is presented here.


Regards


Ufopolitics

[bistander]

Lenz

"Lenz magnitude is THE SAME as the one we apply trying to generate an EMF, but negative...
So, definitively if we only had that right magnetic model from the beginning,
there would be many ways to "bypass" that opposed force.
Lenz exists, but we can obtain an EMF while Lenz Vector of force manifests in a completely different path/angle than our applied force/movement,
therefore it would not affect directly." - UFO

Hi aljhoa,

I'm not sure why you quoted Ufo. Please elaborate.

As long as you have brought it up, I noticed that the first two words are somewhat of an oxymoron. Lenz's law is strictly qualitative and says nothing of quantity or magnitude.

bi

[aljhoa]

"Lenz magnitude is THE SAME as the one we apply trying to generate an EMF, but negative...
So, definitively if we only had that right magnetic model from the beginning,
there would be many ways to "bypass" that opposed force.
Lenz exists, but we can obtain an EMF while Lenz Vector of force manifests in a completely different path/angle than our applied force/movement,
therefore it would not affect directly." - UFO

[bistander]

Work

However, NOT when that opposing force is about the same strength of the applied one...otherwise no "useful" work would ever be achieved...right?

You got me with that one. Don't know what you mean. Maybe an example would help.

[Ufopolitics]

Really?

Hi Ufo,

Did you ever notice that to do useful work you have to overcome an opposing force?

WOW, that was brilliant Bistander!...you know, never thought of that...

However, NOT when that opposing force is about the same strength of the applied one...otherwise no "useful" work would ever be achieved...right?

That's all Lenz describes.

Exactly, ...and as I wrote above, Lenz magnitude is THE SAME as the one we apply trying to generate an EMF, but negative...So, definitively if we only had that right magnetic model from the beginning, there would be many ways to "bypass" that opposed force. And don't interpret this the wrong way ...Lenz exists, but we can obtain an EMF while Lenz Vector of force manifests in a completely different path/angle than our applied force/movement, therefore it would not affect directly.

And the model is old, not obsolete. It is valid and works. Something I have yet to see your theories produce; a model usable to calculate forces, currents, voltage, etc.

Regards,

bi

Sorry, old...it would be obsolete soon...I was talking about the future...

I will bring in that(those) Model(s)...soon

Cheers


Ufopolitics

[bistander]

Model

Afterwards, the basic Classic Model have lead us all to design generator machines which must face the opposition of reverse flow currents, or Lenz Law...however, we kept using this obsolete model, no matter what...

Hi Ufo,

Did you ever notice that to do useful work you have to overcome an opposing force? That's all Lenz describes. And the model is old, not obsolete. It is valid and works. Something I have yet to see your theories produce; a model usable to calculate forces, currents, voltage, etc.

Regards,

bi

[bistander]

You guys?

Religion is what you describe and why i dont participate and since you want to just believe what you are complaining abuot why not discuss black holes, 0 sized particles, dark matter, wait you already have been when i been commenting in this topic. to argue with me with. you guys cant come up with a normal, answer to me.

If you've been following my discussions with Ufo you will notice that I disagree with his theories in most cases. I try to do so in a polite and intelligent way staying on-topic. I have read most of your posts on these magnetic threads and find them difficult to understand. At least the most recent posts are without the insults. Thank you. Is English your native language?

I suspect you'd be more likely to get an answer if you were to post an on-topic question clearly stated and short of "What is magnetism?" or "What is God?".

Thanks,

bi

[Ufopolitics]

People just have to use their imagination. Similar is the concept of magnetism, and gravity, and other phenomena which we can only study the effects and not directly see the cause or mechanism or field. So people develop theories about this stuff. Some theories are useful; some are not. Ufo and Ken have their way of looking at ∞ and I, and you can see it differently. We can then discuss it here in a civil manner.

Thanks,

bi

For over 200 years "plus" the study of the Magnetic Field Model have been Constrained on throwing some cheap iron filings or ferromagnetic dust to the fields...Everyone knows iron is completely influenced by magnetic fields, iron "molds" its shape based on links that would also take place if we add some magnetic dust over a field, nothing more have been researched about it on the "Official Gazette of Classic Science"...isn't this called DOGMA?

Science Development is all about looking for different methods to observe a phenomena, and not by keeping the same old method for such a long time...new materials, new tools, new equipment has been developed over the years that allow us to see within the invisibility of a Magnetic Field.

Afterwards, the basic Classic Model have lead us all to design generator machines which must face the opposition of reverse flow currents, or Lenz Law...however, we kept using this obsolete model, no matter what...

Is this Scientific Development?

I definitively do not think so...but time will tell...


Ufopolitics

[ldrancer]

&#8734 So what then does ∞ mean?

People just have to use their imagination. Similar is the concept of magnetism, and gravity, and other phenomena which we can only study the effects and not directly see the cause or mechanism or field. So people develop theories about this stuff. Some theories are useful; some are not. Ufo and Ken have their way of looking at ∞ and I, and you can see it differently. We can then discuss it here in a civil manner.

Thanks,

bi

Religion is what you describe and why i dont participate and since you want to just believe what you are complaining abuot why not discuss black holes, 0 sized particles, dark matter, wait you already have been when i been commenting in this topic. to argue with me with. you guys cant come up with a normal, answer to me.

[bistander]

lemniscate

&#8734 followed by a semicolon is the symbol called lemniscate, ∞. It is used to denote the term infinity in math and writing. Member ldrancer calls it a sideways 8. The concept of ∞ appears to give fits to him. Perhaps it is because he can visualize 8 representing eight when he has experienced in 3d (real life) eight objects, such as eight apples. Whereas he, nor anyone, has experienced infinity. So what then does ∞ mean?

People just have to use their imagination. Similar is the concept of magnetism, and gravity, and other phenomena which we can only study the effects and not directly see the cause or mechanism or field. So people develop theories about this stuff. Some theories are useful; some are not. Ufo and Ken have their way of looking at ∞ and I, and you can see it differently. We can then discuss it here in a civil manner.

Thanks,

bi