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  • Turion
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    I have no progress to report. According to Greyland, the individual who showed up was happy with what he saw, but I have no idea what "happy" means. That individual is the director of some things having to do with generators at the company he works for, including innovation. That company specializes in generator sales, repair, rental and installation, and has been in the generator business for more than 25 years, so he knows a thing or two about generators. I expect I will hear from him in the next day or so. Greyland says this person did measure inputs and outputs, but Greyland has no idea what those results were. He's a machinist, not an electrical circuit guy, and really doesn't understand how to even use a volt meter. Maybe now that this individual has seen the generator he will vanish into the wind. Who knows. And maybe he was so disappointed that I will never hear from him again. I have no idea. Although, if the machine was up and running to its potential. I know what he SHOULD have seen. But I wasn't there, so I have no idea what the results were. Unless you are THERE, how CAN you know? But Greyland says the machine was running ok, even though he was running it on 12 volts. That means the output wouldn't be as high as I would like, but it also means the input wasn't as great as it would have been on 24 volts, so all I can do is wait to hear. I will let you know.

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  • BroMikey
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    Looking forward to your latest entry. Everyday is a new beginning. I have been looking at the annular cutters with their use drilling ss plate. I think a large standard drill prill with the morse tapers for the chucks can be replaced or exchanged or switched out for use with annular hole saw cutting. Cooling the area is critical with stainless of as the metal becomes over heated the area turns into a "tungsten like" material that can never be cut again/

    Stainless plate 1/4" (316) can be machined to fit 1" disk magnets and press fit. This type of rotor is less magnetic than steel by far and offers a built in shield/ holder for 1/2" (1"Dia) magnets, leaving 1/8" magnet sticking out.

    BTW Dave thank you for you release in the spirit of our minds. We are not at war with one another. Keep up the good work.

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  • Turion
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    Sometime this afternoon, a member of Energetic Forum will be meeting with my machinist at his shop in Santa Clara to see my machine and they will be testing it together.He contacted me a couple weeks ago, and I was able to set that up. I will leave it up to that member to report on what he sees if he chooses to.Good or bad. I make no promises. I won't speak for someone else. I just wanted it clear that the opportunity has always been there and is STILL there for anyone to go see for themselves. I figure that people who put in the effort deserve the information. And I have no sympathy for those who say they "don't have the money." I didn't have the money to build 16 different versions of the machine to get it to this point either, but I found a way. When you want something bad enough, that's what you do. You find a way. Or you could always build it yourself. One of the six sets of coils is still not working correctly, unless he got that fixe since I talked to him on Saturday, but it should be enough to prove the point.

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  • BroMikey
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    Originally posted by Rakarskiy View Post
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2et_MaS925U
    The guy repeated the system of “twist” Andrei Slobodyan on one shoulder 3: 1
    Good video replication.

    Mu-metal shielding magnets to create a magnetic motor and or generator


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  • Rakarskiy
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2et_MaS925U
    The guy repeated the system of “twist” Andrei Slobodyan on one shoulder 3: 1

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  • BroMikey
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    Originally posted by lotec View Post
    Just a general comment. In most generators a field winding is activated and forcibly dragged past top dead centre tdc. This takes alot of effort, perhaps it might be easier to simply swtich it off at tdc. Isnt it going to present as a collapsing field either way? Just a thought.
    Yes this is a good comment. This is being done by Thane Heins for the drive motor, however not all induction motors (if any) can do that. Dc pulses with stepper motors work. Great care for tracking rotation to trigger the little black switch-box takes some doing. We were just talking about this today.

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  • lotec
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    Just a general comment. In most generators a field winding is activated and forcibly dragged past top dead centre tdc. This takes alot of effort, perhaps it might be easier to simply swtich it off at tdc. Isnt it going to present as a collapsing field either way? Just a thought.

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  • BroMikey
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    Originally posted by Rakarskiy View Post
    I am glad to inform you that the technology of generating electricity with a flywheel in the design (or rather its multiplication), has been mastered in the city of Ufa (Russia).
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...ature=emb_logo
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uevz76PVQGY
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GCDCkSHam8

    everyone can get acquainted with the design.
    Oh goodie all I need is a weight to connect between motor-generator. Why didn't I think of that.

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  • Rakarskiy
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    I am glad to inform you that the technology of generating electricity with a flywheel in the design (or rather its multiplication), has been mastered in the city of Ufa (Russia).
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...ature=emb_logo
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uevz76PVQGY
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GCDCkSHam8

    everyone can get acquainted with the design.

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  • BobFrench
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    Q Calculator

    I was reading this morning and ran across a statement that refreshed my memory about the advantage of low Q.

    It said,"...and so reduces the Q and helps to make the antenna usable without adjustment over a band of several MHz."
    (The last line of Sect. 2-2a http://g3ynh.info/zdocs/comps/part_1.html)

    The antenna will be less sensitive and so it will not cut out a greater variety of different frequencies, but the signal will not be as strong. This is a different circumstance from what I envision with energy collection.

    I think we need to have a very narrow frequency centered in resonance where a high Q factor will aid in high multiplication of energy with little canceling by contrary frequencies. Resonance aligns the energy so that it can all travel in the same way (not bouncing around in different directions and colliding with each other). By increasing reactance, we are reducing resistance and allowing the process to achieve OU, possibly thousands of times over. This is what I think Don Smith did. He stated that his solid-state units were not much bigger than a matchbox and could output a lot with minimal input. (I don't remember the exact numbers, but they were something like 65kW continual from a 7Ah battery that self charged.) This seems realistic IF you are working OU, without resistance, and cycling in the multiple GHz...but ya gotta have a high Q system to do that.

    The sky's the limit.

    Bob


    "If there's a rule, break it. It's the only thing that moves things forward." -Hans Zimmer
    Last edited by BobFrench; 05-06-2020, 06:37 PM.

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  • BobFrench
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    Q Calculator

    Here's a Q calculator that has a wealth of information after it that explains why this calculator is better than some others. It explains about a lot of the variables that need to be taken into account.

    https://hamwaves.com/inductance/en/index.html


    Here is a statement that was in a box-

    Achieving a high quality factor:

    Coils achieving the highest quality factor require large diameter wire, strip or tubing and usually exhibit a cubical form factor; i.e. the coil length equals the coil diameter.

    This is the only guideline that I have seen concerning the Q factor, but has been repeated.

    Bob

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  • BobFrench
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    Wireless Energy.

    I've read that about the highest Q not being the best for something, but I think that basically applies when you are trying to have something that is more general. I am not quite sure.

    But, if you want high production of one thing, you want high Q in the entire system. The higher the Q at resonance, the less resistance, the less contrary frequencies canceling out your gain.

    What I would like to see is a calculator that you could input some basics (wire gauge, frequency, and other coil specs) and have it tell you what size cap or resistor to use. Something that could get you in the ballpark with what you've got to work with. The Q calculators that I have see all seem to give you the Q factor after you have fully designed it. So you do all the work and then it tells you that it's a pile of crap, so you have to take a guess as to what to change and do it all over again, hoping that it will be better. You could spend a lot of time guessing. And remember, everything that you add to it, changes the Q. So you could have high Q and need to add a resistor for some reason and the whole thing might go low Q.

    I don't think that we have a deficit of understanding principles as much as we have a problem physically building it. I think that without high Q, we kill so much of what we produce with interference, that we don't get very far above OU even when we do. I am amazed at how much reactance is ignored. The higher the reactance, the lower the resistance. Why would we allow resistance to rob us of gains. Personally, I grease the wheels of my car.

    So, I hope that we can find a good way to achieve good Q in our systems as a whole. Once I learned of the complexity and the many variables that the Ham radio designers were dealing with, it dawned on me that we were not accounting for a lot of factors that matter...factors that add up to good a Q factor.

    Take care, keep on keeping on,

    Bob

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  • BroMikey
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    Originally posted by thaelin View Post
    This subject has touched on a field I would like to add. It is called Nomography. I now have the pdf of this art. Glad to share it too. In it is a wealth of how to figure graphically values for coils and such. What I would like to see is one for Q. Not sure that one exists. Just remember, high Q is not always the best value. It depends on how it is being used. Check pmillett.com for a lot of old AARL books for d/l. Easier to understand than the newer.

    thay
    Can you post the pdf?

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  • thaelin
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    This subject has touched on a field I would like to add. It is called Nomography. I now have the pdf of this art. Glad to share it too. In it is a wealth of how to figure graphically values for coils and such. What I would like to see is one for Q. Not sure that one exists. Just remember, high Q is not always the best value. It depends on how it is being used. Check pmillett.com for a lot of old AARL books for d/l. Easier to understand than the newer.

    thay

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  • BroMikey
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    Originally posted by BobFrench View Post
    Wireless Energy

    Hey BroMikey, ..... Now I think that much of the problem is low Q coils.

    Q stands for quality. T
    Flashback: 1970 I am a paperboy age 13yrs thinking about Q in circuits until all of the books and magazines took out all of the Tesla facts and tubes. Transistors were a big thing. In the dumpster the old knowledge went.

    Talk of Q values were in every major publication you can think of with breathless discussion of our limitless potential to harness the endless supply of natures abundance. It is no wonder out youth don't listen to us because I am writing this 50 years later and still even all the top names in science don't not have a small working model of the principle that will save the world thru Q refinement.

    Then we here the word resonance, LOL. What kind which type, who's version and of what? The confusion goes on out into eternity. My first ARRL book costs me a bundle (I thought) in 1978 been watching each year proceeding and the evolution of thought.
    Last edited by BroMikey; 05-03-2020, 09:24 PM.

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