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[Neight]

You're on the right track. It seems your cell may have a low internal resistance to it. You may have low voltage but the mA seems to be off to a good start.

the use of Molybdenum disulfide is very interesting. "MoS2 is relatively unreactive, being unaffected by dilute acids and oxygen. In its appearance and feel, molybdenum disulfide is similar to graphite. Indeed, like graphite, it is widely used as a solid lubricant because of its low friction properties and robustness." Molybdenum disulfide - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

please keep us posted.

Quick update
First, thanks ibpointless for the response
good to know that i am at least looking in the right direction.
I am wondering if the small amount of iron in the cell mix isn't what's lowering the internal resistance.

I took a time lapse video of my cell shorted out on both meters for the past 8 hours. it starts at about 4mV and 1mA, rises to a little bit over 10mV @ 2.5mA, then steadily drops back down to 5mV @ 1.5mA where one of my meters battery died (too funny, right? , my cell outlasted the meters 9V battery) I am quite sure it would have kept dropping, as it seems to settle in at around 2.4mV and I haven't seen it drop lower than that at any time.

It definately seems like this is using up the water, in my tests last night, if I added water, the voltage and amps would very briefly spike up, then very quickly drop back down. once it looked as if it was settling, it would very slowly start to climb back up, peak at 10mV then slowly drop back down again. I have repeated this cycle twice now, and had the same results both times.

This sucker wont run an oscillator, at least none of them I have built yet, so nothing good to report there, but at least i am getting the same results with this thing over and over.
Next step is to make one without the iron in it, and see if that doesn't help the voltage output. My first goal is just to make one that will run an oscillator, after that, we will see where this goes

If I find anything else that might be useful, I will be sure to share
thanks

N8

[chuck H]

Movies for pc

Hi everyone, i want to ask any of you guys what program you use to edit the videos, i want to make a video showing my work with the cells, but its the first time i do this... cheers

carlos

Carlos, download Windows movie maker from Microsoft. It is free. Very easy to use. Thats what I use when I,m on the pc. Else what Jim stated for Macs, Ipods etc....

[John_Bedini]

Thanks NickZ for trying to help.

NickZ,
I just want to thank you for trying with the Monkey, as he has had many names on many groups and it has always been negative with anybody that does anything in this field.

I find everybody's work here very exciting in the quest to overcome the galvanic action that has plagued mankind forever. But yes their is a way around it as Marcus Reid has discovered and I was very lucky to help him at the time, his cells continue to run completely sealed.

Even John Hutchinson's cells done right will do it without the Galvanic action. I find it very sad now to see a man obsessed with a degrading factor in his personality like Monkey. The point here is he has nothing to say, or can do nothing to control what happens in how we conduct business in my companies. I feel a need and I build products and I always present them in the open and you do not have to buy them.

At every turn I always let the people viewing them have all the meters they want as what's reported at all the conference I ever attended. No I'm not going to give all the information as you will not learn that way.
And since I do file patents four one reason that strictly has to do with business. I do run an R&D company and I don't mind sharing information with the group, but I have a limit I can not cross.

I have given information away many times. If everybody would go back to when this all started with F/E you will find me along with a few others. Who you wont find is the Monkey or the rest of them. You will also find me in the audio field and the recording field with processors and 3D sound and most of the country/western music was recorded with the B.A.S.E. system I still build them to this day. You will also find The Amplifiers starting from the 10/10 to the 250/250 Class A's. What you wont find again is the Monkey in any of this.

I just want to thank all of you who continue to keep up the work in this area. I have put aside anything that he says, as he is just a big wind bag of choice words. He could not effect me if he tried. That is where I stand, prove to me Monkey you have anything I call you out, prove what you say, don't just sit there and talk. prove it with the work you have done in any of these fields. NickZ don't bother trying it's useless. To bad we must communicate this way. But I wont disrupt this group any longer with his crap. Some new things to show the group when I finish, Ibpointless2 should go back and look at his 5 foot cell again with different eyes.
John B

[cgalvisardila]

Dear Carlos,
I use I movie on a Mac.
It is very simple to use.
Very Best Regards,
Jim

thanks jim, but i use PC... heh, guess i should have clarified

carlos

[jehdds]

Hi everyone, i want to ask any of you guys what program you use to edit the videos, i want to make a video showing my work with the cells, but its the first time i do this... cheers

carlos

Dear Carlos,
I use I movie on a Mac.
It is very simple to use.
Very Best Regards,
Jim

[cgalvisardila]

Video Editing

Hi everyone, i want to ask any of you guys what program you use to edit the videos, i want to make a video showing my work with the cells, but its the first time i do this... cheers

carlos

[jehdds]

Guys,
Here is a testing update of the video I loaded yesterday.
This morning was a 100 ohm test
Volts: 1.384
Current: 1.84 mA at ambient temps. Again this cell had Zero water added to it except at construction on 1/5/12 and dried for two weeks prior to starting the 5 week oscillator run.

I also tested the cell to COMPLETE AND PROFOUND FREEZING. (DRY ICE IS -109.3F or -78.5C)

Placing the cell on 1lb of Dry ICE for 1/2 hour I was able to get the cell to register 0mA. Voltage was still at around 1.2V SO the lattice trapped water CAN FREEZE SOLID, and to be expected the current dropped off.

The VERY interesting find was that the cell current bounced back to 1.30mA
while it was frozen like a rock with ice crystals covering the entire cell.
I will redo this and try to observe the time it took to recover. I left the room thinking that I hosed/destroyed the cell, yet within a few minutes when I came back in the mA went from .03mA to 1.30mA.
All thoughts welcome.
Very Best Regards,
Jim

[ibpointless2]

Very quick update on what I have made tonight...
Again, I am not even sure I have anything here, so please, feel free to pick this apart.
I took apart my the last cell I made (scraped off the MoS2 solution) and resaturated the mix with the saline solution. I took a very small copper plate from a piece of copper tube, and a small aluminum heat sink to make the cell out of. I used a lighter (just to make this quick) and heated the copper until I saw it forming the red oxide layer from John Bedini's videos. I took the MoS2 mix (as a paste again) and spread it on the copper. I heated that up to dry off the excess water. Then I put the heat sink on top. I used a plastic clamp to apply pressure to the plates, and got a few minor results. Much less than what I had before, and was fairly disappointed.
Without removing the DMM leads, I removed the clamp, and this think sprang to life! It instantly started making over .25V, and the longer I let it sit, the higher it went, until it reached about .330V. I did the same thing for current, and at first it was around .125mA, but the longer I let this set, it keeps climbing. it is at this moment getting about .420mA and still very slowly rising. When it appears to have topped out, I will test the voltage again, and see if it goes any higher.
I may not be on track at all here, and I apologize if i am not, but it is pretty exciting to have built something that is making power.
I am going to mix up some more of this stuff, isolating each element of it, and see just what is giving me these results. some with just MoS2 and water, some with a bit of Mg and some with just iron in it, and see if it's the combination of the 3 or maybe just the plates and the MoS2.
right now, the cell is sitting @ .460mA and still climbing!
I will report back with anything else I find.

N8
I added a second meter, and right now, I am getting 3.0mV at 1mA with the battery shorted. It's not much, but it's something, and I am quite sure it can be improved upon. It still acts like it's going up in both volts and amps, so I will keep tracking it

You're on the right track. It seems your cell may have a low internal resistance to it. You may have low voltage but the mA seems to be off to a good start.

the use of Molybdenum disulfide is very interesting. "MoS2 is relatively unreactive, being unaffected by dilute acids and oxygen. In its appearance and feel, molybdenum disulfide is similar to graphite. Indeed, like graphite, it is widely used as a solid lubricant because of its low friction properties and robustness." Molybdenum disulfide - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

please keep us posted.

[Neight]

Very quick update on what I have made tonight...
Again, I am not even sure I have anything here, so please, feel free to pick this apart.
I took apart my the last cell I made (scraped off the MoS2 solution) and resaturated the mix with the saline solution. I took a very small copper plate from a piece of copper tube, and a small aluminum heat sink to make the cell out of. I used a lighter (just to make this quick) and heated the copper until I saw it forming the red oxide layer from John Bedini's videos. I took the MoS2 mix (as a paste again) and spread it on the copper. I heated that up to dry off the excess water. Then I put the heat sink on top. I used a plastic clamp to apply pressure to the plates, and got a few minor results. Much less than what I had before, and was fairly disappointed.
Without removing the DMM leads, I removed the clamp, and this think sprang to life! It instantly started making over .25V, and the longer I let it sit, the higher it went, until it reached about .330V. I did the same thing for current, and at first it was around .125mA, but the longer I let this set, it keeps climbing. it is at this moment getting about .420mA and still very slowly rising. When it appears to have topped out, I will test the voltage again, and see if it goes any higher.
I may not be on track at all here, and I apologize if i am not, but it is pretty exciting to have built something that is making power.
I am going to mix up some more of this stuff, isolating each element of it, and see just what is giving me these results. some with just MoS2 and water, some with a bit of Mg and some with just iron in it, and see if it's the combination of the 3 or maybe just the plates and the MoS2.
right now, the cell is sitting @ .460mA and still climbing!
I will report back with anything else I find.

N8
I added a second meter, and right now, I am getting 3.0mV at 1mA with the battery shorted. It's not much, but it's something, and I am quite sure it can be improved upon. It still acts like it's going up in both volts and amps, so I will keep tracking it

[John_Bedini]

Back on track

John:
Ok, you got your point across. It may be good to vent. But, nothing is starting to happen, so no need to be upset. I don't know what went on before, but I in no way intended to offend you, in any way.
Jealous about my cells? that thought had not occurred to me. Your wife is right.
Your friend,
Nick

NickZ,
Let's just move on with what the group is doing, Forget SeaMonkey as he has posted his comment over there, it's what I thought it would be. Nice smooth rubbish words about how I'm unwinding. I would be careful of a guy who never shows what he builds, but is always giving advise. It's no big deal, he thinks I'm unwinding but the truth is I'm unwinding on some new batteries, which I will post as soon as I have the right items. I'm waiting for these 2 Volt super bright Led's.
John B

[Aaron]

Experiment is the mother of all certainty!

[cgalvisardila]

NickZ,
It's like we still live in the dark ages and that is why the world does not have anything new in energy.


John B

well...we do live in the dark ages still, you couldn't have put it any better Mr. bedini, but were getting out of them! lets just keep moving forward despite people trying to be right instead of building and making progress, on my part i couldn't be happier working on these cells with this group and i believe the credit for the results so far cant be taken by anyone at this point, and i think its amazing that you even post information and try to help us... i've seen in your videos how you made your own components melting rocks you went out to the desert to get yourself, whoever wishes to honor your road good, whoever doesn't, well... too bad for them i guess, if they think we're just following john like he has the final word, then they should pay a visit to all of us that replicate and spend money, time and effort before saying anything or throwing any opinions and see if it works for ourselves... it's results that have the final word, its the light coming out of those LEDs the ones that have the last word... Mr bedini, i hope these guys don't make you want to stop helping, i know there are many here that honor you, and if others choose to talk crap and take the knowledge, well fine, what can we do? free energy is just that... free, we would then have to work behind closed doors and under contract, and working on it behind closed doors is not gonna make the free energy get out there, just take a look at free energy's history... suppressed devices, dead inventors... its gotta be a big family otherwise history will repeat... every family has trouble and insolence... lets just go make some freaking WATTS.

carlos

[plengo]

I would like to share some of my personal feelings concerning Bedini (good) rant the other site where they are criticizing him.

Although many are intelligent to an exceptional level and may even have a substantial amount of knowledge of the sciences accumulated in their heads that does not make one a great experimentalist (like Faraday was called once).

One can play piano and another can play piano in an orchestra in front of thousands and astonish even cunning musicians around the world.

Science is not about knowing all the books and understanding how things works by reading or just mental exercise. Science is about the pursue of THRUE in nature via experimentation, repeatability, observation and theory formulating.

Some individuals calls themselves intellectuals or make others believe that they are. Some are good experimentalist by doing it.

Even Tesla said that many are playing with mathematics and creating unrealistic explanations of the real world and Tesla advised the scientific community to wake up and stop that and get back to work. Literally he was saying: "stop playing with formulas and go to your lab and work".

Just because batteries have been studied to no end in the past does not mean we can not find something new and unique here. Even if we are repeating many of the steps many have done before. It is still unique for those that are doing besides there nothing like the intuitive perception of things when one interact with the experiment first hand.

Books can not document that. Faraday intuition of things has been very admired by his friends and colleges for being a very unique and rare thing.

Those that are criticizing our work here have NO UNDERSTANDING of really what we are doing and how we are perceiving things because they are simply not doing it. Usually those are "chair scientists".

I applaud those individuals that pursue the truth in nature kept secret by the Creator that reveals them to the meek of heart.

Fausto.

[NickZ]

John:
Ok, you got your point across. It may be good to vent. But, nothing is starting to happen, so no need to be upset. I don't know what went on before, but I in no way intended to offend you, in any way.
Jealous about my cells? that thought had not occurred to me. Your wife is right.
Your friend,
Nick

[plengo]

Fausto,
I figured it out regarding your reversal.

I made a simple cell using a piece of copper and a LARGE 1" square of iron pyrite. I suspected that when you hooked up your cell and it was dry, there was MORE hidden electrolyte hydration on the PYRITE side of the magnesium and thus the magnesium was not being registered to the extent it would be when it was in MORE fluid intimate contact including the pyrite.
When I had electrolyte on the copper, placed the chunk of pyrite on it and read the voltage, it was NEGATIVE just as you had seen with your cells. The electronegativity difference between the pyrite and Cu makes it register thus.
I then placed a piece of DRY magnesium on the chunk of pyrite and it still read negative. when only the copper side against the Pyrite had electrolyte.
I then added electrolyte solution between the solid chunk of pyrite and magnesium as well as the other side of the pyrite having the electrolyte against the copper and when I did this it read Positive. So, The magnesium needs to be in fluid intimate contact with electrolyte before its potential is realized. I hope this helps. Is the phenomenon real, yes. Again, I have even seen negative resistance or so it read. Transient yes, hydration dependent yes, explanation......? Nope. Consider this a data point!
Thoughts welcome.
Jim

Good point Jim. I am not totally convinced because one can not really tricky the current. Voltage, yes, you would be 100% right. But both??!!! I still think something more is around.

Fausto.