Bedini GT3
John K and Les K,
I'm going to answer this but I just want a little more time to finish this experiment. I'm on to something here and I want everybody to do it.
John B
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John B,
What I think is that because Iron is more paramagnetic than Copper (Iron is attracted to magnets more than Copper) it is soaking up more magnets than copper out of the aether. There are always going to be more magnets in an Iron bar than a Copper bar. (I'm talking about un-magnetized, just sitting there)
Now normally if you placed a compass near an Iron bar you would not see any deflection because the Iron bar is at the same "magnetic" potential as the aether. It is balanced with nature if you like.
So now if you look at a Stubblefield coil with one Iron wire and one Copper wire you have one wire (the Iron) that has a larger number of magnets in it than the other. Both wires on their own are balanced with the aether, but here's the kicker - when you join the Iron wire to the Copper wire there is a difference of magnetic potential between the two wires. This is why the compass deflects.
As seen in Laserslayers awesome videos, they compass will deflect opposite ways depending on which Iron and Copper wires are connected together. This is because the magnetic spins oppose each other (like the Faraday motor experiment).
I think too that the compass is deflecting because the soft Iron core is being magnetized by the difference in magnetic potentials. I would have liked to see in the video if one end of the coil showed the opposite magnetic polarity than the other - i.e. one end North and the other South.
I also think that if Laserslayer had used R60 rods instead of a solid core he would have seen better results as this would have reduced eddy currents.
Lastly, the effect is stronger when the coil is moistened. As we all know, water is a better conductor of "electricity" than air. This is easy to see during a thunderstorm when the air is more humid. Since it's my opinion that "electricity" is formed by magnets, the same is true with the Stubblefield coil - the wetter the "electrolyte" the more magnets are captured by the Iron wire.
So that's the way I see it. I have no idea or any bench time that proves this theory - so please tell me if I'm on the wrong planet
My theory on gravity and why the planets orbit the sun and the moon orbit the planets is along the same lines, but that discussion is for another thread, another time.
I hope this makes sense...
John K.
Originally posted by John_Bedini View PostLes K,
So lets get into this a little more as I see something very different that is taking place. Hendershot also had this motor and no galvanic action taking place. I also have seen this with very old coils LaserSaber also said that you could do it with insulated copper wire if you used two different sizes. ED L also said the same thing with Iron wire. you should John K please explain a little more also why you see it this way.
John B
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I missed lasersaber saying it could be done with copper of two different sizes. That really does change things....A lot! Ok; instead of building I am sitting here on the edge of the chair glued to the screen puzzled and pondering! Am I back to latency in the system? Differential between the current flow? Diameter of the flux path in relation to the wire in a bifiler coil? If pulsed there is a measurable difference or gap between them in the flow of flux and current is there not? is this difference or space between them creating a boch wall in which radiant can enter? and is this happening all along the distance of the wire as it switches on or off (ie: pumping the vacuum)?Originally posted by John_Bedini View PostLes K,
So lets get into this a little more as I see something very different that is taking place. Hendershot also had this motor and no galvanic action taking place. I also have seen this with very old coils LaserSaber also said that you could do it with insulated copper wire if you used two different sizes. ED L also said the same thing with Iron wire. you should John K please explain a little more also why you see it this way.
John B
Les
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Bedini GT3
Les K,
So lets get into this a little more as I see something very different that is taking place. Hendershot also had this motor and no galvanic action taking place. I also have seen this with very old coils LaserSaber also said that you could do it with insulated copper wire if you used two different sizes. ED L also said the same thing with Iron wire. you should John K please explain a little more also why you see it this way.
John B
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John K,Originally posted by John_K View PostJohn B,
From what I saw on the Lasersaber videos, because the soft Iron wire holds magnets easier than Copper there is a difference of magnetic potential which is why you see the compass move. That's how I see it.
I can also see that the axial motor on the GT3 could be made in the same way, just bigger. Lasersaber is only using one half of the Stubblefield coil to turn the Monopole rotor in the videos. With the right switching, like a full bipolar Bedini/Cole circuit, and NSNS magnets on the rotor I can see how this could self-run.
John K.
you got me to thinking with this statement, thank you.
As I saw the videos I noticed that he was not only seeing voltage at the first stages of construction but current. This occupied my thought's as it appeared these wires were open circuit. open circuit always means to me no current.
Then I realized that there must be a chemical reaction taking place and with that reaction when you close the loop on one end current flows. When current is present magnetic flux is present and that explained everything. this is just what it says it is; a Battery. At that point I could not see where we were being led. you can do this with potatoes or any organic material with certian metals. in fact it was done on gilligans island...ha ha ha!
But then as I read more of what John B was saying I remembered something I read about a disagreement between Tesla and Einstien about where energy actually resided in the atom. Tesla said that it was in the vacuum beteen the electrons/protons etc. Certainly in lasersaber's video's they Chemically deteriated after time and that would explain that the power is coming from a chemical reaction, but is there more to it than that?
Just my thought's so far, I know I am way behind on all this so thanks for your patience as I learn and ponder...
Les
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John K,
You could be right but that alone does not explain the Iron wire all by itself.
John
Originally posted by John_K View PostJohn B,
From what I saw on the Lasersaber videos, because the soft Iron wire holds magnets easier than Copper there is a difference of magnetic potential which is why you see the compass move. That's how I see it.
I can also see that the axial motor on the GT3 could be made in the same way, just bigger. Lasersaber is only using one half of the Stubblefield coil to turn the Monopole rotor in the videos. With the right switching, like a full bipolar Bedini/Cole circuit, and NSNS magnets on the rotor I can see how this could self-run.
John K.
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Brent,
The thread is not heading in a different direction I'm here to help, looks like your ready to go. Nice wheel, looks like you have done a great job on that. I'm working on something else here but I'm here to help. I will start a new thread on that or have Aaron do it if I need to. I have always been exploring Stubblefield.
John
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Wire is here!!!
John B,
As you can see we have received our wire today and want to start winding our coils, however we still want to tie up a couple of lose ends (questions) before we start.
I know the thread is heading in a different direction right now with exploring the Stubblefield coils and would be willing to PM you as to not disturb the flow if you think that would be better for the group or not.
Let me know your thoughts!
Thanks again, Brent
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John B,
From what I saw on the Lasersaber videos, because the soft Iron wire holds magnets easier than Copper there is a difference of magnetic potential which is why you see the compass move. That's how I see it.
I can also see that the axial motor on the GT3 could be made in the same way, just bigger. Lasersaber is only using one half of the Stubblefield coil to turn the Monopole rotor in the videos. With the right switching, like a full bipolar Bedini/Cole circuit, and NSNS magnets on the rotor I can see how this could self-run.
John K.
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Bedini GT3
Turion,
Now your thinking yes you could make an oscillator out of the bedini cole circuit by using a feedback winding. that circuit would be simple to do with small devices with a tri-filer coil.
John B
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FRC,
No the Joule Ringer circuit is limited and that would just make an eternal light if you could supply the capacitor with an endless stream of charging current for that device that is why I mentioned the use of the Captret but sooner or later that runs dead also because the capacitor leaks to much even if it is micro amperes.
I do not know why LaserSaber does not talk about it that much as he has made a nice discovery and needs to understand why the effect is there. I have tried to get him to talk but about it as I have seen some of the same things. This brings me to Hendeshot had the same motor. Science is Science and you can't change that. I have given all the information on the GT3 motor just build it the way I did don't change anything. You will get it to work.
Now I see the direction I should go in and must follow it to the end, that will not be in my lifetime. Something is just pulling at me about Iron wire and I'm just trying to give everybody the head's up. Negative energy zero point it's all the same thing, so it requires something different to work with it. But what LaserSaber has done is not new, just different. The circuit for this is very critical as it must join Germanium to silicon devices.
John BLast edited by John_Bedini; 01-13-2011, 08:13 PM.
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John
Would this require a different circuit than your regular monopole circuit ? Such
as Lasersaber's Joule ringer circuit ?
FRC
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@All,
Redrichie, Minoly.
Normally I would not say anything but I must go back to what happened when I was testing this Stubblefield coil. I do remember seeing a compass deflection with the connection of different wires. I do not know what I was thinking but at that point I was fascinated by transmitting signals in the ground.
Peter and I could find this signal in trees in the water system and also in the air and on rubber tires. We also could walk away from the shop into a sand pile and get all the music I was broadcasting. This is not the important thing here.
The important thing is one of the same type of wires running a motor which can be taped for power for charging batteries, it's the switching that must be right. One copper wire has a specific field magnetically and Iron another so you have a difference to play with. The gradient in one wire if switched right is all it takes to do this because the earth's magnetic field will supply it. Yes the monopole or the GT3 motors can be running this way with no input.
John B
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