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  • pvar06
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    Originally posted by blackchisel97 View Post

    As a source I'm using 1A stabilized power supply with additional 10 000uF capacitor on the output. I use circuit by John Bedini from page 47 FEG book.
    I still don't know ideal input. I asked question on Monopole Group but nobody answered. Circuit oscillates @ approx. 1kHz. I have no way to see the wave form, yet. Let me know if I can be any more of help with your project.



    Vtech
    Hi,

    Thanks for the information and nice to note that your setup is working perfectly all right. But the things are not looking good at my end as so far i could not make it work.

    I am following the page 46 diagram of FEG book.

    Earlier the connection were as per the diagram shown on page 46 i.e. pin 4 of H11D1 to the base of 2N3584. In this setup my circuit draws around 0.3 Amps and output voltage is acheived upto 160-170 volts.

    After reading the old posts from TEEP forum, I have inverted the pin 4 and 5 of H11D1 i.e. pin 5 of H11D1 is connected to base of 2N3584 and 4 to the charging battery ground. Surprisingly the circuit works in this condition also but no change in input / output.

    The other details like coil is 3x450 turns 23 SWG magnetic wire, iron core with welding rod, spool is 4 inch long with 1/2 inch inner diameter. At output side I have used the 3x 10 mfd, 440 volts AC motor starter capacitors. Also used 4.7 mfd 450 volts electrolyte type capacitor. In both the setup no change in the input or output.

    I request to kindly let me know the connection setup at SCR, 2n3584 and H11D1 because after reading lot of information I am getting little confused. Enclosing some of the pictures of my circuit.

    Regards

    Praveen



    Last edited by pvar06; 09-30-2009, 05:45 AM.

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  • dmonarch
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    Moray King Explanation

    I have just been listening to a moray king talk and he explains the requirements to interact with the vacuum. Basically you need an abrubt change caused in a magnetic field which orders the the quantum foam. Under standard physics the disorder is potential energy and by ordering the disorder the potential energy is converted into energy. This is what is occuring here. How you convert this the energy from the hyperspace to our space is through the interaction of ions. This why the battery charges as it is full of ions.
    Damian

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  • blackchisel97
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    Bedini SS charger

    After 48hrs my battery is reading 12.60V. Today I replaced 80uF photocap on the output of bridge rectifier with 3uF/600V, found in the RF filter of the ionizer. I fond the circuit working better. I suppose that smaller capacitor has ability to charge and discharge faster, which make more sense in fast 1kHz pulsing. I also found 250mA input current optimal in my setup - fastest charge with lowest current draw.

    Cheers
    Vtech

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  • blackchisel97
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    Hi Praveen

    In my setup I replaced 2kOhm base resistor with potentiometer in series with a small light bulb (60mA). I can adjust input mA from 150mA up. Right now I operate between 200 - 250mA. I'm running this circuit continuously for the past couple of months and it's the best of Bedini's chargers I've built so far. My coil is 3x450 of twisted AWG#23 with welding rods core. Coil is 3 inch by 3 inch dia and is full of wire. Between 7 and 2&6 of 555 I put 100kOhm pot to adjust waveform. Also, I put LED in series between 3 of 555 and 1 of H11D2 (I got them cheap instead of H11D1). I tuned 555 for lowest input mA and the moment when LED gets slightly dimmer. I used HV bridge and 80uF capacitor from disposable camera(I couldn't find around any low uF/ HV. Capacitor between 1 and 2&6 of 555 are two 470nF/630V parallel. Output current around 70mA. Circuit works great. I restored 8 SLA (gel acid) 7 - 12Ah batteries, marine HD and currently working on one of the two heavy duty Magnum 1000CCA lead acid. She couldn't be charged conventionally - showing as fully charged but measured only 11.05V. When connected to my SS voltage quickly went to 13.8 but after 12hrs dropped to 11.20. After another 12 hours went up to 11.50 and tonight (36hrs) reading 12.08.
    As a source I'm using 1A stabilized power supply with additional 10 000uF capacitor on the output. I use circuit by John Bedini from page 47 FEG book.
    I still don't know ideal input. I asked question on Monopole Group but nobody answered. Circuit oscillates @ approx. 1kHz. I have no way to see the wave form, yet. Let me know if I can be any more of help with your project.



    Vtech

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  • pvar06
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    Hi All,

    Further to my post 277 on page 10 my progress is as below.

    So far I have made up around 5-6 circuits and in most of the circuit I have got input / output power ratio between 1 to 4. I had a doubt on the spurious component so recently I ordered components from mouser.com but on making the circuit using those component i received the following results.

    1. Input - 12 volts with 0.23 Amps i.e. 2.76 Watts
    2. Output - 170-180 volts with 0.03 Amps i.e. 5.1 Watts

    In my circuit i have used 3 nos 10 mfd 440 volts motor starter capacitors. The winding is done on 1/2 inch pvc pipe around 3.5-4 inch long. The iron core is being made using welding electrodes.

    Earlier i had one BD243C, which has drawn around 1 amps at input side with 12 volts. But at the output side the voltage dropped to 70 volts and 0.2 amps. so again the input power is 12 watts and output power is 14 watts.

    Capcitors are making good noise and I can hear the charging and discharging of the capacitor. The megnatic field generated on the coil is good, as i have checked it using neo magnet.

    I dont know where i am missing in the whole concept. I request the members to let me know following

    1. What should be ideal input and output power ration for Bedini SS....

    2. Is there any issue in the coil winding....

    3. What is the voltage and current observed by other members on input and output side of the circuit....

    Regards

    Praveen

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  • shubhamforme
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    best and simple solid state radiant charger

    Originally posted by Aaron View Post
    Bedini Solid State Oscillators discussion. Basically any Bedini circuit that doesn't use a rotor as a trigger. Self-triggering using any variation of the schematics.
    this is one of the very best and simple yet very effective and cheap solid state self triggring radiant oscillator or charger...
    please give me your feed feed back and views...
    i had recently desulphated 3 of my 5 years old 12v 80amp lead acid car battery...now they hold a charger quite properly....
    and i had simply use a 1amp 9v pus or power supply for input...
    heres the link to circuit.....
    download it and enjoy---
    link--- Free File Hosting & Video Downloads, Free File Sharing, Online Friends Network - Ziddu

    thanks
    shubh!!!!

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  • blackchisel97
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    Solid State Bedini + Rodin's Coil

    Hi Everyone,
    During my experiments with different Rodin's coils I decided to give a try with my Solid State Charger. I used 2x18 AWG#26 toroid. I connected one coil in series with positive of charging battery and noticed voltage climbed 0.3V instantly. Then, I connected second coil in series with negative and voltage went up another 0.3V within seconds. Just wondering if I'm matching impedance of battery or there is something else going on. Any suggestions? Actually I found partial answer today; my DMM was connected before Rodin's Coil, not at the battery terminals. I apologize for confusion.


    Cheers

    Vtech
    Last edited by blackchisel97; 09-23-2009, 07:01 PM. Reason: wording

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  • sucahyo
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    my test video

    Just want to share the video I made to convice some people about the difference of Bedini radiant vs HV pulsed circuit.

    170 seconds charge at 2.65V made motor run 30 seconds. Should have increase the transistor base resistor value but I find it easier to use HHO cells as current limiter,
    YouTube - Low voltage charging with radiant charger

    Showing 19V initial voltage that climbing down:
    YouTube - Behaviour of radiant charger charging 12V SLA
    Attached Files

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  • nvisser
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    I noticed that Skywatcher has got another interesting thread on battery recovery

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  • blackchisel97
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    Sla

    Way to go SkyWatcher!

    I found SLA really not dependable to do any tests. Unfortunately, they represent 95% of my batt. testing inventory at the moment. I'm hoping to get a few Surette's from Solar/Wind company. They would be my prime choice for powering home grid. With manuf. warranty from 84 -100 months and careful treatment they could last very long time. I need to get good rotor and replace my other pulser/charger's wheel. I have couple mechanical setups running continuously (since March) in my bedroom - I feel energized all the time This time I will go with superpoles.

    Cheers
    Vtech

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  • SkyWatcher
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    Update on battery revival

    Hi folks, thanks for words blackchisel. For anyone that may be interested, I am now getting 5 hours and 30 minutes on only the 3rd charge/discharge condition cycle from this 6V-4.5AH SLA using the same load. That is about 35% of the rated capacity of this battery, so its coming along well. It's looking like maybe around 10 cycles may bring this battery to full capacity based on the results of the 3 cycles so far, we will see.
    peace love light
    Tyson

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  • blackchisel97
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    Hi SkyWatcher, I'm happy you have a positive results!

    Vheers

    V

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  • blackchisel97
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    My understanding of this:

    Originally posted by nvisser View Post
    THIS IS THE ANSWER I WAS LOOKING FOR!!
    ARE THIS PULSES THE RADIANT PULSES FROM THE BEMF OR PULSES FROM A CAP THAT IS CHARGED WITH THE RADIANT AND DISCHARGED WITH INTERVALS AT A CERTAIN VOLTAGE?
    Where cap is converting into positive charge, therefore allowing to swap primary with charging. We want to utilize the pulse from sharply collapsing field.

    V
    Last edited by blackchisel97; 09-03-2009, 08:51 PM. Reason: wording

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  • SkyWatcher
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    Hi folks, Hi nvisser, it almost seems like your not reading my posts. I am telling you what works and it's the flyback or also called collapsing field from a coil using a single diode to capture the collapsing field flyback. Though maybe a cap at a higher voltage lower value might work, however this joule thief charger ,which is basically the same as most Bedini circuits, is working very well. If thats not clear let me know.
    peace love light
    Tyson

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  • nvisser
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    Originally posted by blackchisel97 View Post
    Charging with pulses and relatively small current allows the HV puls to penetrate non conductive sulfuric "coating". This coating cannot be "shaken off" or penetrated by conventional charger.
    CheersV
    THIS IS THE ANSWER I WAS LOOKING FOR!!
    ARE THIS PULSES THE RADIANT PULSES FROM THE BEMF OR PULSES FROM A CAP THAT IS CHARGED WITH THE RADIANT AND DISCHARGED WITH INTERVALS AT A CERTAIN VOLTAGE?
    Last edited by nvisser; 09-03-2009, 10:58 AM.

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