Bedini Solid State Oscillators

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Solid State SSG Diagram and Summary

There is one thread you need be concerned with.

http://www.energeticforum.com/john-bedini/3082-solid-state-bedini-7.html

The is at the bottom of page 7. It comes down to this.

Solid State Simple School Girl or SS SSG or what you will will NOT give you over unity, that is 'Free Energy'. But, what it will do is charge Lead Acid Car Batteries like a mother ****er.

You can use the Solid State SSG (no wheel just a trigger coil and as many output coils as you want. Starting with 1 trigger and 1 output 1 transistor is a good way to build your first. Then you can get more ambitious with say 6 output 6 transistors and of course the trigger coil.

Solid State means no moving parts, so the SS SSG self oscillates acting as the physical wheel. So, you get the radiant pulses to Back EMF charge your batteries, desulfate and REJUVINATE dead car batteries, saving you 70 dollars or so.

What I used to build the schematic above was 3 pairs of 17 gauge Speaker Wire! That way you get a total of 6 output/charge coils and is much easier to wind. The TRIGGER was 21-23 gauge copper wire. The TRIGGER must be a THINNER wire (higher the gauge thinner the wire).

Whatever gauge you decide or can manage to get from amazon the TRIGGER should be 3-4 gauges higher than the output coils. This will cause the oscilations due to the trigger being a thinner guage.

100-150 FEET length wire for trigger and output coils. Run the speaker wires along your hallway or outside on pavement and duct tape at every few feet to help hold together as you wind.

I used a PAPER TOIL ROLL 1/2 used as a spindle. You will make an OPEN AIR COIL (no CORE) and wind up slowly in a zigzag pattern making the coil as wide and 6 inches or so. After winding, cut away the paper towel center or just pull it out and Duct Tape the COIL Donut. You only have to tape to sides NOT THE WHOLE THING, because you want it to breathe to give off excess heat.

Make Sure you know which ends of the wires are TOP and BOTTOM of coil winding point.

Get some TERMINALS and a screw driver and some copper wire and no need to Solder anything. NEVER turn on this circuit unless you have the charge battery connected or you will blow all your transistors.

Good Luck God Bless.

[tgraca]

Thank you!

It took quite a bit of time, but I made it through this thread and have enough notes to begin experimenting.

@mikey - I like your slow pulsing approach. It seems that might be a powerful way to (as you put it) quickly "hammer" out the sulfation on old batteries.

I like the solar adaptations mentioned around the middle of this thread too. I have found small 0.5 V x 3.6 A (1.8 watt) solar cells online for about $1 each... solar is coming way down in price.

The SS SSG is also covered in the joule ringer thread, which I am still going through. I am wondering if a 1.5 V source could drive something of use for pulsing higher voltage batteries... I think it was mentioned, but need to review my notes... I am still in the year 2009 over there... slow but sure, eh!

Anyway, thank you everyone! Cheers! -teo

PS - I have 2 alum battery conversions per the Bedini Earth Light thread completed... took me almost 4 months to get through that thread... These alum batteries are very powerful in terms of VERY long life under low load. They might do well in series at about 14-20 volts as a source for charging batteries using a variation of the SS SSG circuits. And, they charge up with the 2 amp tesla charger in about 30 minutes... wonderful!

[BroMikey]

SG Osc to cap dump to Industrial AGM Batteries

Hello Group

Here is my latest battery bank tagged for rejuvenation

SG Oscillator voltage converter to cap dump to industrial AGM ALUM Batteries. - YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaOGgzp5EtE

Mike

[SilverToGold]

Great work Mike! Keep it up....

[Aaron]

solid state Bedini

I didn't mean to highjack your thread Aaron, I just couldn't resist the temptation. Mike

Fire away - that's what it's for!

[BroMikey]

Sg Osc to Capacitor Discharging Unit to Lead Alum Batteries

Hello group members

Here is a simple update on my large capacitor discharge unit and how it works during burn in. I will be going up to 90vdc with very large amp surges enough to pop a battery if it is a worthless battery anyway. Can't wait to clean off all of the sulfation on this big bank.

Sg Osc to Capacitor Discharging to Lead ALUM Batteries 90vdc No Toy pulse charger - YouTube

I didn't mean to highjack your thread Aaron, I just couldn't resist the temptation.

Mike

[BroMikey]

Switch

Mikey
Is S1 just a switch to turn it on and off?
Thank you
sawt2

No it is to turn on and off an optional resistor to experiment with is all. You only need so many but I use more when i dial down to lower amp draws on the input.

That way I don't pop my smaller batteries.

mike

[Sawt2]

Mikey
Is S1 just a switch to turn it on and off?
Thank you
sawt2

Hello wrtner

There are video's all over youtube that show guys with the wheel Monopole motor that they learned from John Bedini that got up one morning and forgot to start the wheel and the batteries charge right up.

There is a buzzing of OSCILLATION. Look on the circuit I uploaded at the trigger wire hook up. This is in the patent and also around the web a couple of guys are circulating a diagram of the same thing. well you don't have to do it that way either. It works both ways without magnets.

That is John Bedini's patent and shows the SG OSCILLATOR circuit without a wheel. John has both patents of the same idea.

It is known as the SOLID STATE version of the SG OSCILLATOR.

Here is what I use
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I can charge batteries that are alot bigger if I hook up my cap dump.

The wheel can do things that the SG OSC circuit can not do like put a generator coil on it to get a little more power back from the spinning wheel.

Attraction Mode, Repulsion Mode, FORCED OSCILLATOR MODE. The solid state version is known as FORCED TRIGGERING MODE. No Magnets and can run higher frequencies.

Each unit has it's place depending on the use.

Someone has a Ferris wheel 4 sale right now all made.

Mike

[BroMikey]

No Wheel SG OSC

This is very weird since the standard SG method requires the wheel to be propelled (albeiit by itself). If the wheel does not move, or is held stationary by force, then I would have thought that it should not work at all.

I wonder if his circuit is accidently diffferent and the difference is crucial (and interesting).

Hello wrtner

There are video's all over youtube that show guys with the wheel Monopole motor that they learned from John Bedini that got up one morning and forgot to start the wheel and the batteries charge right up.

There is a buzzing of OSCILLATION. Look on the circuit I uploaded at the trigger wire hook up. This is in the patent and also around the web a couple of guys are circulating a diagram of the same thing. well you don't have to do it that way either. It works both ways without magnets.

That is John Bedini's patent and shows the SG OSCILLATOR circuit without a wheel. John has both patents of the same idea.

It is known as the SOLID STATE version of the SG OSCILLATOR.

Here is what I use
Beast Solid State Energizer.jpg

I can charge batteries that are alot bigger if I hook up my cap dump.

The wheel can do things that the SG OSC circuit can not do like put a generator coil on it to get a little more power back from the spinning wheel.

Attraction Mode, Repulsion Mode, FORCED OSCILLATOR MODE. The solid state version is known as FORCED TRIGGERING MODE. No Magnets and can run higher frequencies.

Each unit has it's place depending on the use.

Someone has a Ferris wheel 4 sale right now all made.

Mike

[wrtner]

He has found that IN HIS CASE that charging is much better when he does not spin the wheel.

This is very weird since the standard SG method requires the wheel to be propelled (albeiit by itself). If the wheel does not move, or is held stationary by force, then I would have thought that it should not work at all.

I wonder if his circuit is accidently diffferent and the difference is crucial (and interesting).

[BroMikey]

SS-SSG wheel

Hello Group members

Here is a link to a man who uses the power out of his batteries feeding solar to his Bedini wheel. He has found that IN HIS CASE that charging is much better when he does not spin the wheel.

This then is in fact the same as a solid state SG OSC.

The man has a 500ah battery and is working in the practical world where it doesn't matter to him who has an Oscillator that requires a spinning wheel.

He is not driven by anything other than getting the best results out of his rig.

Some might say he has bad bearings, magnets, wire, batteries, bad somethings and this must be why his wheel won't give better results.

Either way here he is. http://www.youtube.com
/watch?v=AlDQZOxwnRQ

He is charging a 500ah battery set with a 3 amp input. Pretty practical real world operating results i'd say.

Tesla had an input, he didn't try to run lightening through his lab off of storage batteries, his input was Niagara Falls turbo hydro electric dam.

Using a battery to charge batteries and recycling it back to the run leaves you with little left over for usable power.

He need an input say earth batteries or a long wire or solar and so on and so forth.

Further using a capacitor discharge Unit in conjunction with the SG OSCILLATOR increases your ability to charge larger battery banks for the same input power.

In this video the man does not show any capacitor discharging units.

I think the man has a pretty awesome rig and you can tell it didn't come out of a box, he built it from scratch. Because he needs it, big difference from people who toy with stuff.


Mike

[BroMikey]

Hardware

Greetings experimenters

Here is an update on my capacitor discharge unit Mucho Granday.

Sg Oscillator Cap Discharger 90vdc No Toy pulser - YouTube

I have not done any experiments yet as I am building units to test with first.

I figure if I can pulse radiant at 90vdc at 40 amps maybe I could actually power something practical if I stumbled on to a mysterious phenomena. Just joking around and power slamming batteries.

Mike

[BroMikey]

Beginner at Work

In response to this persons post you stated that you charge a battery bank of
300 aH @ 12 v ect. I did get the impression that you were stating that you
charge a bank of batteries with on battery.

I have built a Bedini oscillator, several in fact.

I already have free power but it doesn't come from a wire strung out which will
give some free energy but not much. Even a tree has a wave form.

When someone asks if you how many batteries you can charge from one it
might get you less grief if you just tell them the facts they asked for.

How many batteries can you charge from one battery. The answer is it
depends on the capacity and condition of the batteries being charged and the
supply battery capacity and condition. Without specifics in the question only a
general answer can be given.

I'm guessing the person was asking if you could charge several discharged
batteries with one battery of the same capacity, and how many.
You answered by saying that you charge a 300 aH battery bank ect.. What does that mean ?

In my post you quoted, I was experimenting with a transmitter/receiver unit, it was quite some time ago. And had nothing to do with Bedini oscillators.

Also I was asked to scope a tree by MonsieurM.

I've done my fair share of research on Tesla's work since then and a lot of
people make claims on his behalf that he never made. Which is a pet hate of mine.

Cheers

P.S as far as the claims of getting 170 aH out of a 100 aH battery I don't
believe it. Where is the evidence of that ? It's just words that cannot be
validated as no one is going to watch that happen at your house.

Some capacity can be recovered by desulfating the batteries, but to say
you can almost double the capacity of a new battery is a bit of a claim, can you show that please ?

..

Hi Farmhand

Yes you are so right I should have said that I use a set of 28ah batteries in series that are kept charged by a 5 amp block transformer. Not very impressive I know.

I have done what you are talking about last year with my very small Sg Oscillators and i noted that I could take energy out of one battery and put it into a bigger one and get more work done running a small cordless drill motor than I could running the motor off the one small battery til it was dead.

So the answer that I should have given was that I really don't know yet because so far I haven't done much that way lately.

What I am doing is building units WITH capacitor discharging units to match because I noticed that batteries charge up way faster this way.

I commend you on your long wire experiments and the success you are having with the Bedini SSG oscillators.

So your free power comes from the recovery of the coil collapse? I think this is the standard answer.

I am enjoying your pet hate for false claims because I too am against misinfo. All I see most of the time is goose chase after goose chase.

I am just about done with the big dump that outputs 90vdc and am dead set against finding free energy on the web. I believe now that I will have to find it on my own so for now I am building so I have something to work with.

This is as far as I have gotten.

From what I have observed using the cap dump charging batteries fast is a very real thing. I am a battery freak. I take the acid out and throw is down the drain and out comes the ALUM crystals.

I am not kidding that my batteries give me more power than they are rated for. I had some charts I made last year but are all lost. In fact one solid year I faithfully posted results like this on one site and when the moderator decided I had to be thrown off I lost it all.

But it went like this.

I would take a battery that I wanted to test like say one of my 100ah AGM cells and zap it up good with the Sg Oscillator(Not an SSG)

Let me say first that the batteries converted to ALUM take WAAAYYY longer to charge than the regular batteries do.

So i would bring the batteries up to 16vdc over a long period of time using the SG Oscillator WITH Cap Dump. At a 1.3 amp discharge it took days to bring these batteries down to 10.5vdc on my small inverter.

An in every case if it was a 30ah battery or a 28ah the results were the same always getting more out of the battery than the factory rating listed.

Now let's not forget that it takes way longer to charge it, more going in and more coming out that is all. No extra that I have gone out of my way to measure.

Now the smaller Sg Osc I built are another subject and I THINK I got a few more joules out of them but I THINK the face on the moon is not really a man.

I really don't know yet. I was told to get that wall wart off of the input batteries and give room for the cold energy to climb in there or something like that, while my batteries all run down.

I have Generator Mode, I have Sg Osc mode 1 and cap dump.

The way it looks is the cap dump needs to go on the shelf and the batteries need to be directly connected to the Osc for a day or 2 for best results.

Discharge takes place in a few hours around say 6-8hrs.

I look at that and I say that this is impractical so I look for another source to input the machine. Generator mode is said to run both run and charge batteries up together at the end of a cycle (SAY 16v) but not a soul online has a working example.

I bought the DVD33 and understand these simple video's.

I am told that because I refuse to hang magnets on a wheel my coil won't work the same in GenMode.

So now you know where I am, no where with free or extra energy of any practical amount to run anything with what is left over.

Just circuits that can run batteries up fast without boiling them. Even though I have not gotten any farther than this I know that the extra is there.

So why have a machine that can run itself with so small of an amount left over that the practical use is a joke? That is what i asked myself.


I have Batteries, I have lights, I have inverters, I have wind, I have sun.

One answer for generating a small input for these Sg Osc machines is the Tesla aerial systems that JES has shown us world wide.

John bedini has a 30,000 dollar system and gets more power out than he puts in but it takes 36 hrs to charge and runs down in 8 hrs. He is the inventor and currently is using solar power to run his new Tracker Oscillators so as to make an impact in the practical sense.

All of his devices have there place.

I know the extra exists but knowing this while my lights run every year from energy from the power company does not get me excited anymore.


I am one of those guys who will make it work one way or another and do not trust much of what I read on line to be anything but mostly hype. Completely turned off.


So now YOU have my pet hate.

Thanks for asking again so you can see that I am just like the rest who wonder what to build next.

I will try them and test. I can tell you that high energy surges like with capacitor discharge can produce many phenomena.

Don't know why but I like capacitor discharging.

Any help or suggestions you might have are always welcome but like I said the answers to free energy will probably remain a secret.

Even John Bedini and other men who have inventions could not give a full answer without jeopardizing their positions in life.

I get alot of SOS dot dot dash code emails that are suppose to give the answers. National security they tell me is why we are not given the full answer. We have riddles like Batman got from the riddler

Bro Mike

[Farmhand]

Hi Bromikey
Do you have some pictures of the waveforms(from dutycycle,cap,coil)
How many batteries do you charge with one.
Thanks

In response to this persons post you stated that you charge a battery bank of
300 aH @ 12 v ect. I did get the impression that you were stating that you
charge a bank of batteries with on battery.

I have built a Bedini oscillator, several in fact.

I already have free power but it doesn't come from a wire strung out which will
give some free energy but not much. Even a tree has a wave form.

When someone asks if you how many batteries you can charge from one it
might get you less grief if you just tell them the facts they asked for.

How many batteries can you charge from one battery. The answer is it
depends on the capacity and condition of the batteries being charged and the
supply battery capacity and condition. Without specifics in the question only a
general answer can be given.

I'm guessing the person was asking if you could charge several discharged
batteries with one battery of the same capacity, and how many.
You answered by saying that you charge a 300 aH battery bank ect.. What does that mean ?

In my post you quoted, I was experimenting with a transmitter/receiver unit, it was quite some time ago. And had nothing to do with Bedini oscillators.

Also I was asked to scope a tree by MonsieurM.

I've done my fair share of research on Tesla's work since then and a lot of
people make claims on his behalf that he never made. Which is a pet hate of mine.

Cheers

P.S as far as the claims of getting 170 aH out of a 100 aH battery I don't
believe it. Where is the evidence of that ? It's just words that cannot be
validated as no one is going to watch that happen at your house.

Some capacity can be recovered by desulfating the batteries, but to say
you can almost double the capacity of a new battery is a bit of a claim, can you show that please ?

..

[BroMikey]

Sg Oscillator 26awg wire

Hello friends and group members

Here is an update on my web flyer that shows my beginners build of a solid state version of John bedini SG OSCILLATOR.

BroMikey's Science Projects

My approach is to bring the building process down to a level beginners can understand in a step by step build.

These coils are the main way Bedini winds and twists. Then there is the basic very simple diagram with a hand full of electronic parts that even a young child can arrange on a bread board.

My circuit is a step up from what the little girl built using a single channel.

The little girl who built one for her science fair project back 40 years ago got such attention that these circuit are named "Sg" or "School Girl" Oscillators.

Now people just see "Sg Oscillator" or "Simplified School Girl" "SSG" Oscillator.

Her is me winding a coil. Well only partly shown in pictures and the other portion in text form.

I energize batteries with this circuit but also use the pulse dc that is a form of AC for experiments. I like this AC signal because if you are experimenting and make any mistakes it doesn't blow the fusebox out of the wall on your house.

I can get 100volts and not have to worry about melting transformers, if I goof nothing happens, it just shorts out with not damage to the circuit or any parts.

This circuit is an experimenters dream circuit.

BroMikey