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[Ufopolitics]

A YT Video on Hitby13kw Test 1

Hello to All,

QUAD MONSTER PULSERS - YouTube

Here is a video I put together, showing briefly some details of the Quad Pulser Drive System is about...and -of course- the Excellent Test developed by Hitby13kw as "The Main Star" of the Video..

Thanks Sir John Stone!...for such well designed piece of Art!!
Thanks Dana for conceiving/writing such very precise Codes at Quad Blink, to make all this hardware to "move"...and Oh Boy!...How they move!!...

Regards to All


Ufopolitics

[JohnStone]

Wow!
@Hitby13KW: That is what we were and still are after! Thanks for your effort and posting!
Your vid does not open at my PC hence I have to wait 45 minutes for download.
I would like to know if the pulsing frequency conicides somehow with motor speed. Do we have a rotating field kincking the poles synchronously?

PLEASE: do not change much at your setup. You hit a sweetspot and any minor thing changing might destroy your sweespot. Too many tinkerers lost their invention and could not replicate it themselves. We still do not understand what exactly is going on here.

@Gerry: Thanks for your programming effort. I tried it myself and just got the array running - and you have a 90% program ready! We missed up to now someone with your expertise. And thanks for remembering 6 phase for AU Cornboy
I have no problems with dropbox at all. Same with google drive.

I strongly suggest to give the SW versions a genuine name (derived from whatever) and version index from the very beginning in order to avoid confusion.

@ALL:
1.
We shall agree for a layout for monster pulser. I like mine but that is not importatant. The board in the vid looks great. I'd like to have the data in order to examine it. This might be the one to replicate for all.

2.
Please get local backup copies of these two threads for safety reasons!

JS feeling

[Ufopolitics]

My Permission Garry...

@all
I have completed the Arduino portion of the motor control program, I will make it available to all if it is approved by ufoPolitics, John Stone and Dana.
It is comprehensive with 5 different modes to control the motor. This has added some complication to the programming but was done in order to facilitate all of the concerns expressed by leading members of the thread.
@JS
I agree that we need to start with a single pulse method to find out how it affects the motor and so I put together a method that accomplishes this and have three modes that can be utilized for this purpose. 1st mode is a generator mode that uses half of the pins for power and half for generator.
2nd mode is an experimental mode that uses only one pin as per ufoPolitics instructions to try out the monster drivers to deal with the issues being dealt with by machinealive.
3d is a full power mode that utilizes all pins. All of these methods are supporting 2 brush pair to six brush pair. and will support the following arduino processor platforms "Uno", "Nano", "Leonardo", "Duemilanove", "Diecimila", "Mega" and "Due".
There seems to be only two different pin outs at this point. The small boards with 6 pwm pins, and the larger boards Mega and Due with a different pin Out.
The additional two modes are for multipulse methods
mode 4 is a generator mode with half of the pins for generator and half for
power.
mode 5 is a multipulse mode for utilizing all pins for powering the motor.

here is an excerpt of the program with only the pulse modes to give an idea of how it will work.

I am still working on the dash board interface and the program is quite involved. I do not want to post the entire program to the forum. It is very long. I do not have any experience with any of the online services that allow someone to post their files to the internet for sharing. If you could make a recommendation then I will post both programs to a service that the members can download from after meeting approval with ufoPolitics and JS and Dana.

Cheers

Garry

Hello GChilders,


Excellent work!!

Yes You have My Permission to post it here...and to Proceed with this...if are able to handle so many things at same time....what another Software is gonna do?...

Now, if you go into Software Codes Forums (I have seen it in Word Press Multiple Users and single stand alone Forums)....you will find a scroll separated window option on Posts, where you could scroll independently JUST the Software contained within, as you may also copy paste it from there...it will not use but an expandable window to display it.

I will upload that Plugin into my Site , where we will open the Page/Software Codes...to be able to see it that way.

Warm regards


Ufopolitics

[GChilders]

posting recommendation

@all

I have read some bad reviews of dropbox and see that many are using this service and would like to know if they are experiencing problems. I have looked at copy.com and am intrigued with the 15 GB storage in their free version, as opposed to dropbox 2.5 GB. google drive is another option but I am always concerned about google playing fast and loose with privacy. Maybe just being paranoid. Any info will be appreciated.

Cheers,

Garry

[prochiro]

@ Garry
Great news that you have, cant wait to check it out. Most of us put larger things ether in a PDF or out of one onto the Dropbox where a simple click will download to each of us. See dropbox.com if you do not have it. It is free.
Dana

[GChilders]

motor control program

@all
I have completed the Arduino portion of the motor control program, I will make it available to all if it is approved by ufoPolitics, John Stone and Dana.
It is comprehensive with 5 different modes to control the motor. This has added some complication to the programming but was done in order to facilitate all of the concerns expressed by leading members of the thread.
@JS
I agree that we need to start with a single pulse method to find out how it affects the motor and so I put together a method that accomplishes this and have three modes that can be utilized for this purpose. 1st mode is a generator mode that uses half of the pins for power and half for generator.
2nd mode is an experimental mode that uses only one pin as per ufoPolitics instructions to try out the monster drivers to deal with the issues being dealt with by machinealive.
3d is a full power mode that utilizes all pins. All of these methods are supporting 2 brush pair to six brush pair. and will support the following arduino processor platforms "Uno", "Nano", "Leonardo", "Duemilanove", "Diecimila", "Mega" and "Due".
There seems to be only two different pin outs at this point. The small boards with 6 pwm pins, and the larger boards Mega and Due with a different pin Out.
The additional two modes are for multipulse methods
mode 4 is a generator mode with half of the pins for generator and half for
power.
mode 5 is a multipulse mode for utilizing all pins for powering the motor.

here is an excerpt of the program with only the pulse modes to give an idea of how it will work.

// motor control methods

void dutyCycleCalc(){ //calculates wait periods for single pulse method
float val = 0;
if (numberBrushPair == 2){
val = valWait / 2;
}
else if (numberBrushPair == 4){
val = valWait / 4;
}
else if (numberBrushPair == 6){
val = valWait / 6;
}
if (currentMode == 1 or currentMode == 2 or currentMode == 3){
valWait1 = round(val * (currentDutyCycle/256));
valWait2 = val - valWait1;
}
}

//this pulse method uses half of the pins available for the particular motor utilising all brush sets for power(generator mode)(single pulse method)
void spMode1(){
for (int count = 0; count < 6; count++){
for (int pwmPin = 0; pwmPin < pinCount; pwmPin++){
//turn on pin 0(first pin # in array)
digitalWrite(arrPWMPins[pwmPin], 255);
//pulse for entire delay period at full duty cycle
delay(valWait1);
//turn off pin 0
digitalWrite(arrPWMPins[pwmPin], 0);
//delay for rest of delay period
delay(valWait2 + valWait1);
}
}
}

//this pulse method uses one of the pins available for the particular motor for testing purposes of monster driver(single pulse method)
void spMode1a(){
if (numberBrushPair == 2){
for (int count = 0; count < 6; count++){
//turn on pin 0(first pin # in array)
digitalWrite(arrPWMPins[0], 255);
//pulse for entire delay period at full duty cycle
delay(valWait1);
//turn off pin 0
digitalWrite(arrPWMPins[0], 0);
//delay for rest of delay period
delay(valWait2 + valWait1);
}
}

if (numberBrushPair == 4){
for (int count = 0; count < 6; count++){
//turn on pin 0(first pin # in array)
digitalWrite(arrPWMPins[0], 255);
//pulse for entire delay period at full duty cycle
delay(valWait1);
//turn off pin 0
digitalWrite(arrPWMPins[0], 0);
//delay for rest of delay period
delay(valWait2 + (valWait1*3));
}
}

if (numberBrushPair == 6){
for (int count = 0; count < 6; count++){
//turn on pin 0(first pin # in array)
digitalWrite(arrPWMPins[0], 255);
//pulse for entire delay period at full duty cycle
delay(valWait1);
//turn off pin 0
digitalWrite(arrPWMPins[0], 0);
//delay for rest of delay period
delay(valWait2 + (valWait1*5));
}
}
}

//this pulse method uses all of the pins available for the particular motor utilising all brush sets for power(eliminates generator mode)(single pulse method)
void spMode2(){
for (int count = 0; count < 6; count++){
for (int pwmPin = 0; pwmPin < pinCount; pwmPin++){
//turn on pin 0(first pin # in array)
digitalWrite(arrPWMPins[pwmPin], 255);
//pulse for entire delay period at full duty cycle
delay(valWait1);
//turn off pin 0
digitalWrite(arrPWMPins[pwmPin], 0);
//delay for rest of wait period
delay(valWait2);
}
}
}

//this pulse method only uses half of the pins available enabling the generator mode
void mpMode1(){//turn on pin 0(first pin # in array)
for (int count = 0; count < 6; count++){
for (int pwmPin = 0; pwmPin < pinCount; pwmPin++){
digitalWrite(arrPWMPins[pwmPin], currentDutyCycle);
//pulse for entire delay period at current duty cycle
delay(valWait);
//turn off pin 0
digitalWrite(arrPWMPins[pwmPin], 0);
delay(valWait);
}
}
}

void mpMode2(){//turn on pin 0(first pin # in array)
for (int count = 0; count < 6; count++){
for (int pwmPin = 0; pwmPin < pinCount; pwmPin++){
digitalWrite(arrPWMPins[pwmPin], currentDutyCycle);
//pulse for entire delay period at current duty cycle
delay(valWait);
//turn off pin 0
digitalWrite(arrPWMPins[pwmPin], 0);
}
}
}


I am still working on the dash board interface and the program is quite involved. I do not want to post the entire program to the forum. It is very long. I do not have any experience with any of the online services that allow someone to post their files to the internet for sharing. If you could make a recommendation then I will post both programs to a service that the members can download from after meeting approval with ufoPolitics and JS and Dana.

Cheers

Garry

[Hitby13kw]

Hitby13kw, that was a fantastic run. If that doesn't motivate everyone out there on the fence to start building, then nothing will.

I've pretty much given up on the pcb. I bought some copper clad board, and Dana is also sending me one. Gonna start at it tonight.

Machine

400 ohm short from D to S so these units were not switching correctly during the video.

Had they been working we would have had even less than 3 Amps (and we thought that was good) we are in the process of repairing the faulty board and should be able to continue testing shortly. Better data will be forthcoming.

Hitby13kw

[machinealive]

Hitby13kw, that was a fantastic run. If that doesn't motivate everyone out there on the fence to start building, then nothing will.

I've pretty much given up on the pcb. I bought some copper clad board, and Dana is also sending me one. Gonna start at it tonight.

Machine

[boguslaw]

Oh, so nice mosfets Now check again if we have enough protection to not burn any of those beasts while not limiting their abilities !

[iankoglin]

Hello Guys,


We need to put together a LIST of ALL PARTS required to Assemble a Monster Pulser Single Module...with the best prices where to buy its Components...

So, Part Numbers/Description of Part/Quantity required per One Module/Link where to buy them.

I will Upload this Complete list in Ufopolitics/Monster Driver pdf Download Page, with "active links" next to parts.




Warm Regards to All


Ufopolitics

G'day UFO
Here is the info. for the Fast Mosfets

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I bought 50

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Kindest Regards

[Cornboy 555]

Proud.

Cornboy...


Imperial is driving with Four Monsters...or 25% Duty Max...drawing @ 3.0 Amps

Imagine what your MAG3 driven by Six Monsters...or 16.6666% Duty will draw..?

So PLEASE!!...FINISH THE DARN BEAUTY!!...


Warm Regards


Ufopolitics

I'm getting there UFO, had to do some major mods on the commutators, because of my lack of knowledge, when i ordered them.

Nearly got them finished, then it's on to the rotor.

Sorry for taking so long friend, life has just overtaken me lately.

Good news From Hitby eh, must make you feel proud UFO.

Warm regards Cornboy.

[Ufopolitics]

WOW, Hitby, that is some seriously low amps, like UFO, i can hardly wait to see you load that gen head.

Well done.

Warm regards Cornboy.

Cornboy...


Imperial is driving with Four Monsters...or 25% Duty Max...drawing @ 3.0 Amps

Imagine what your MAG3 driven by Six Monsters...or 16.6666% Duty will draw..?

So PLEASE!!...FINISH THE DARN BEAUTY!!...


Warm Regards


Ufopolitics

[Ufopolitics]

On a Monster Pulser Assembly...

Hello Guys,


We need to put together a LIST of ALL PARTS required to Assemble a Monster Pulser Single Module...with the best prices where to buy its Components...

So, Part Numbers/Description of Part/Quantity required per One Module/Link where to buy them.

I will Upload this Complete list in Ufopolitics/Monster Driver pdf Download Page, with "active links" next to parts.


@Sampojo: We need to know if We have the mounting circuit boards all ready to go/order/prices... AS PER Sir John Stone Designed them ...so we can include that link also. Thanks My Friend!


I will be posting there also the Arduino Codes "Quad Blink" by Dana and the Gerry's one also...

As also, a CAD of the whole connections Circuit Diagrams...from Batteries to Imperial...passing by Arduino/Four Monsters...etc

As it will help me to start putting together My own Set Up...honestly, am "desperate" to start putting mine together...after seen all your nice builds working...!!


Warm Regards to All


Ufopolitics

[Cornboy 555]

Well Done.

UFO This is for you . . . Many thanks for such a great design,
This applise to you too John Stone - The Monster Driver is the thing to have !!!





Batteries Voltage RPM Current draw
- - 1 - - 12.14 - - 636 - - 0.98 -> 1.09
- - 2 - - 24.6 - - 1184 - - 1.26 -> 1.56
- - 3 - - 37.0 - - 1843 - - 1.55 -> 1.70
- - 4 - - 49.2 - - 2390 - - 1.98 -> 2.28
- - 5 - - 62.1 - - 3030 - - 2.62 -> 2.92
- - 6 - - 74.6 - - 3630 - - 2.53 -> 2.69

In the video we show the motor running a genhead at 3596 RPM pulling 2.69 to 2.94 Amps then with a 100 watt load the RPM dropped to 3555 and the current draw showed 2.79 to 3.02 Amps https://www.dropbox.com/s/xnjwd946sqd5xuj/SAM_0208.AVI

More to come . . .

Hitby13kw
-

WOW, Hitby, that is some seriously low amps, like UFO, i can hardly wait to see you load that gen head.

Well done.

Warm regards Cornboy.

[Ufopolitics]

Simply AWESOME!

UFO This is for you . . . Many thanks for such a great design,
This applise to you too John Stone - The Monster Driver is the thing to have !!!





Batteries Voltage RPM Current draw
- - 1 - - 12.14 - - 636 - - 0.98 -> 1.09
- - 2 - - 24.6 - - 1184 - - 1.26 -> 1.56
- - 3 - - 37.0 - - 1843 - - 1.55 -> 1.70
- - 4 - - 49.2 - - 2390 - - 1.98 -> 2.28
- - 5 - - 62.1 - - 3030 - - 2.62 -> 2.92
- - 6 - - 74.6 - - 3630 - - 2.53 -> 2.69

In the video we show the motor running a genhead at 3596 RPM pulling 2.69 to 2.94 Amps then with a 100 watt load the RPM dropped to 3555 and the current draw showed 2.79 to 3.02 Amps https://www.dropbox.com/s/xnjwd946sqd5xuj/SAM_0208.AVI

More to come . . .

Hitby13kw
-

Thank YOU Hitby13kw!

It was worthy to stay awake!...Wonderful Video!, Super NICE Set Up!...what else can I say?

Yes a BIG Credit to Sir John Stone on his Monster Pulsers!!...Wow, never seen Such LOW Amps draw in an Imperial Asymmetric Machine before!!

THREE AMPS?...Geez!!...A Symmetric Motor Portable Drill will do 15 Amps @ 18V...

So again, as our previous analysis in conversations before...

It took this Wonderful Set Up...Just 0.25 (2.79-2.53) to 0.49 (3.02-2.69) Amps Increase to output 100 Watts...



On another note...I did not hear any speed/pitch variation sound at all, when you connected the 100 Watts Bulb...We could say that "Imperial did not even noticed..."


Warm Regards!

And looking forward to your next Tests!!


Ufopolitics