Bi-toroid Transformer of Thane C. Heins

[Berg]

Berg BiTT

@Berg,

"Primary flux path reluctance is about 10 times greater then the alternate secondary route".

Your new twin triangle does not show a 10x greater flux path to the primary. Look at the thickness of the H bridge in the drawing of Thane's patent on the left. All the core elements are equal dimension on the twin triangle. Do you see my point? The four legs that angle off L1 should be 10 times thinner then the two legs that connect the L2's.

Yeah, Allen,

Good point. Of course, a modification in the design is called for. No doubt about it.

Here's some design I'm working on.



1 input to 8 outputs (or up to 8 outputs)

Here only two outputs are shown.

[Allen Burgess]

Flux path ratio.

@Berg,

"Primary flux path reluctance is about 10 times greater then the alternate secondary route".

Your new twin triangle does not show a 10x greater flux path to the primary. Look at the thickness of the H bridge in the drawing of Thane's patent on the left. All the core elements are equal dimension on the twin triangle. Do you see my point? The four legs that angle off L1 should be 10 times thinner then the two legs that connect the L2's.

[Berg]

BiTT Equal



I believe this configuration equals the BiTT.

[Berg]

Congratulations, Mr. Clean

Congratulations, Mr. Clean:

It looks like you've done it!



See Video: 39F Don Smith Device Project: BITOROID IN SELF-LOOP, WITH LOAD, NO BATTERY NO CAP - YouTube

Not completely self-oscillating as there is a 9v in PWM, but it is not the source of the power, it needs a battery pulse to go. And what i mean about no cap is that the cap is not directly connected in the "loop", but is connected in the run side of the driver. i dont want to mislead anyone, but this is legit, the meter kept climbing at just the right freq and duty-cycle, the thing is its very hard to re-start, it drove me crazy and i will return to it soon. Depends on unknown variables, i wish i studied it longer before posting, but here you go.

NOTE: In the diagram above, "Amp" is for Ammeter or Amp-meter, according to:

http://www.energeticforum.com/214098-post7797.html

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4864-donald-smith-devices-too-good-true-260.html#post214098

those are ammeters, both reading unmeasurably low, BUT if you actually connect the free wire of cap, the output ammeter dips off the scale Negative, then slowly goes to zero and the cap discharges as usual, but unconnected is where i got the strange results
here is the way the PWM circuit ties to the 2n3055
DIY Homemade Ignition Coil Driver - RMCybernetics

mr.clean, would it perhaps be possible to see a more detailed circuit schematic?


Thane's Patent: CA2594905 (Click to download)

[Peculian]

Hi all.
Nice work from M.Clean !

Forget Thane C. Heins. He got corrupted or whatever.. God knows.
Do I feel like there`s Deja-Vu in free energy arena researchers ?!?
I don`t get those guys. I mean someone accidentally discover "something interesting" and goes all way around the net and media to publicate "his/her work" .
But there is a problem then. This researcher (in this case Thane himself) then needs more
money to "perfect", "his invention" ,like Ismael Aviso and the likes of them.
Trouble is, that when BIG Money shows in front of them, they go mad on dreaming on miriads of money earned!! W0W !
But when they think they are less independent, than that is where all sort of problems arise.
Eventually the "Investors" (tptb & MiBs) ask their money back + interests from the so called perfected invention... hmmm.
They, according to the contract from that moment on, have all & exclusive copyrights about the "invention/s".

So guys, don`t you feel for these poor soul "inventors" like:
There was, once upon a time......::. ?????

I hope all the best to everyone here guys. Ciao !
Keep walking , they say.That`s what we all shall do

[Allen Burgess]

Self running bi-toroid.

Self running bi-toroid from Mr. Clean:

39F Don Smith Device Project: BITOROID IN SELF-LOOP, WITH LOAD, NO BATTERY NO CAP - YouTube

[Berg]

Ganged BiTTs Configuration



Here's another idea I had. Why can't BiTTs be ganged?

I'm just throwing it out there.

[Berg]

BiTT Shade Pole Motor Concept



I'm wonder why the BiTT Concept can't be incorporated into other designs. What about a twin axial shaded pole motor configured using the BiTT Concept?

I'm just throwing it out there.

[Web000x]

BUT... one secondary on fixed dummy load and the other secondary for output was a definite increase

What kind of increase are you talking about? In your video you seem to just be showing the voltages but not currents. Both must be accounted for as well as phase relations if you are talking about energy. If you have taken this into account and have seen increases in energy in the system, would you mind expanding on your results?

Thanks,

Dave

[boguslaw]

Once in the past I stumbled upon that

http://www.overunity.com/1640/rene-rator/dlattach/attach/75517/image/

Now I think it may work quite nicely...

[ekpod]

toggle switches all around

[qvision]

hi all, anyone still working on this?
here is what ive come up with.... my holy crap meter went off...

part 1 output on and off dummy secondary load...
39A Don Smith Device Project: Incorporating Heins Bi-Toroid Technology - YouTube

part 2 input and output readings with improved connections
39B Don Smith Device Project: Incorporating Heins Bi-Toroid Technology part 2 - YouTube

btw the ramp up wave form was an added pleasantry only found at 1.22khz

cores made from ferrite toroids scored and snapped in half to facilitate winding the coils fast.
total turns not counted, added and removed turns according to inductance
1.022mH on primary 20 gauge magnet wire, and 6.3mH on each secondary 26 gauge magnet wire

Hi, nice work

What are the resistances of the 1.022mH and 6.3mH wraps ?

I've been developing the rotor-based approach to the acceleration-under-load effect, it's very promising.


Thanks,

DC.

[Allen Burgess]

New video

Here's a new video of a Thane Heins bi-toroid transformer again:

39A Don Smith Device Project: Incorporating Heins Bi-Toroid Technology - YouTube

Where does one shop for that type of split ferrite Toroid?

[boguslaw]

Wow, sounds interesting, let us know

Just compare with this thread documents : http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...e_figuera.html

[Dave45]

Man you have a knack for making things work, way to go.
Where did you get the ferrite toroids.
dave