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  • boguslaw
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    daemonbart

    There will be standing acoustic wave of 400Hz inside can if all water would be converted into steam and catched there for a moment.It would not escape easily, really. Boiling is from bottom to top because bottom is hot electrode, so in upper can region there would be pure steam catched by sonic wave for a moment, then pressure from bottom will force it to leave can. The longer it can hold steam inside can the better this can can heat water around without consuming much electricity. I've described that in some of very early posted comments. If this is the main idea how it works then it's no more but a known kind of electric heater idea with clever usage of steam as heat exchanger/accumulator.

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  • daemonbart
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    Air?

    Hi!

    I am sorry to say that in this setup the can will be full of water, but my experience tell me: If no flow inside can, the water inside will be much colder than outside..

    Still this setup is good, almost same as pic from Slovenia??

    BR D


    Originally posted by TEKTRON View Post
    It looks to me like the "beer can" is to be full of air, NOT water and submerged under the surface of the water in the dunk tank. The domed top is to keep water from entering the inside of "beer can" and it replaces your "outer ring"electrode. I like this arrangement much better. NO I LOVE IT. The amount of overlap vertically of the dome vs.the can is equal to your "outer ring" width measurement. and your "ring gap" is the difference between the dome diameter and the inner EMPTY can diameter. This will also allow the can to RESONATE like a SOB because it is EMPTY !!!

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  • boguslaw
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    Originally posted by TEKTRON View Post
    It looks to me like the "beer can" is to be full of air, NOT water and submerged under the surface of the water in the dunk tank. The domed top is to keep water from entering the inside of "beer can" and it replaces your "outer ring"electrode. I like this arrangement much better. NO I LOVE IT. The amount of overlap vertically of the dome vs.the can is equal to your "outer ring" width measurement. and your "ring gap" is the difference between the dome diameter and the inner EMPTY can diameter. This will also allow the can to RESONATE like a SOB because it is EMPTY !!!
    That would prove my theory about acoustic resonance in steam inside can converting it into a "heat accumulator." We can use beer cans without removing much from them, just preparing a nice cap.I like that idea, but I would like horizontal placement also.

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  • TEKTRON
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    Originally posted by Slovenia View Post
    WORTH MENTIONING Again Maybe!!!

    This pic must be important and worth mentioning again, because someone took it down when it was posted before. Someone brought this to my attention thinking that I had taken it down.

    Maybe you should study it again!!!

    It looks to me like the "beer can" is to be full of air, NOT water and submerged under the surface of the water in the dunk tank. The domed top is to keep water from entering the inside of "beer can" and it replaces your "outer ring"electrode. I like this arrangement much better. NO I LOVE IT. The amount of overlap vertically of the dome vs.the can is equal to your "outer ring" width measurement. and your "ring gap" is the difference between the dome diameter and the inner EMPTY can diameter. This will also allow the can to RESONATE like a SOB because it is EMPTY !!!
    Last edited by TEKTRON; 11-20-2011, 04:13 AM. Reason: speling LOL

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  • Slovenia
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    Roll the Edge

    Rolling the Edge is a pain.

    Just make a flat variation of the lid and have the tubes flush. You are still going to have to tune the container to either 50 hz or 60 hz depending on whether you are in Europe or USA. The tuning is the tricky part. Oh, the blue line in the pic is the water level.

    Last edited by Slovenia; 11-19-2011, 11:21 PM. Reason: added a line

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  • RAMSET
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    Wierd stuff [someone removed it??]

    S
    Why does your drawing have a blue line ??
    Duncan has been talking about a blue line . [only kiddin]

    Can you post that again on this page??
    Thanks
    Chet
    PS
    I don't like to roll edges [real Pain]
    Reffering to the edge of the boiler [inverted flare]
    Last edited by RAMSET; 11-19-2011, 09:48 PM.

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  • Slovenia
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    Taken Down

    Hi Chet,

    I don't know but I know I didn't. I thought it was an interesting curious way of making a Serbian boiler. Now that I've been frustrated by making a bunch of rings of different sizes for different tests, I understand why it was necessary to build a different mouse trap with other nuances. I would say in all likelihood it was not related to Energetic Mgmt. but to an outside source.

    Best Regards,
    Slovenia

    Originally posted by RAMSET View Post
    S
    Maybe your sleep walking ??

    Very curious ?? I suppose it will be easy for the gap ? I wonder how it will ring?

    I'm still a few days from getting back to this project!!

    Thanks
    Chet

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  • RAMSET
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    Who could have taken that Down??

    S
    Maybe your sleep walking ??

    Very curious ?? I suppose it will be easy for the gap ? I wonder how it will ring?

    I'm still a few days from getting back to this project!!

    Thanks
    Chet

    Last edited by RAMSET; 11-19-2011, 09:56 PM.

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  • Slovenia
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    Adjustable Neutral Electrode

    Adjustable Neutral Electrode

    This is the only easy way to make an adjustable neutral electrode. The other way is to have to make a new ring each time you do a different test for ring gap and that is a real pain let me tell you. These rings are not made accurately quickly.

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  • Slovenia
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    Worth Mentioning!!!

    WORTH MENTIONING Again Maybe!!!

    This pic must be important and worth mentioning again, because someone took it down when it was posted before. Someone brought this to my attention thinking that I had taken it down.

    Maybe you should study it again!!!

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  • MonsieurM
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    I pm you with my email address

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  • Slovenia
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    MonsieurM PM

    I tried to pm you but your mailbox was full and wouldn't receive my note.

    Originally posted by MonsieurM View Post
    side note:
    you can if you polarize yourself to your device....

    You have all the info you need to start picturing it in your mind, just project your heater in your mind, replay the experiment and let your instinct take over...it's all a matter of being able to replay your experiment and add to it all the knowledge you've gained while trying to perfect it ...and let the seed grow...you'll see if you try it

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  • Slovenia
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    Contacts

    Hi Daemonbart,

    I will check with them. Nice to hear from you. I have an electrical genius contact in Australia who has been very helpful in the past, but he is always very busy and I don't want to bother him to much. He has manufactured some incredible devices and has a website over there too. His name is Chris and he can build anything and all his builds are very professionally done. His site is: Hyiq.org - Home

    Best Regards,
    Slovenia

    Originally posted by daemonbart View Post
    Hi!

    Do you think you can have some more information from your contacts??

    BR D

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  • RAMSET
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    On to whom much is given much is required !!

    Very wise words Indeed!!


    Thanks
    Chet
    Last edited by RAMSET; 11-19-2011, 01:18 PM.

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  • daemonbart
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    More info!

    Hi!

    Do you think you can have some more information from your contacts??

    BR D


    Originally posted by Slovenia View Post
    Hi Gordon,

    You have my attention. I'm drawing a blank on this. Can you guide me into this? Just pm me if you like so we won't bother someone on the thread who doesn't believe in this stuff.

    Best Regards,
    Slovenia

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