Pyramid

[robur]

robur:
and I feel that time is running out. Less than two years left

I guess you mean the ''doom and gloom''theorys about 2012. I do not want to think we go down the drain in 2 years time. I don't think we will.
Anyway, if anythng nasty happens here isn't time anyway to create several kilowatt power generator.
I BEEN trying for 2 years with this and a lot of years before that.
I prefere to ignore the ''end of the world'' theorys because this can make person very ill and I ill enought already.

[NickZ]

robur:
Thank you for your reply. Whatever you would like to share with us, is fine.
I personally tend to evaluate the easy electric output that can be obtained by using solar panels, compared to anything else. I have not found anything that will even come close to supplying the electricity that can be had by solar panels. The problem with them is that they also require a battery bank. All in all they are still an expensive way to go. I would like to see a device like the TPU, or the Mitts Dome device that can even start a car. Both are small portable devices. Voltage Only devices are not practical.
We have been playing with devices that don't produce much of anything, and I feel that time is running out. Less than two years left.
Look at how many record number of earthquakes there have been just in the last month of two, world wide. And also the biggest solar flare in a long time.
robur- as I mentioned before, anything you'd like to share with us, is welcome. Maybe we can even help to make your device produce even better.
My friend Otto from Zagreb died, taking his TPU device information with him, even though he left some of his notes, so did Tesla. But notes are one thing, and a working device is something else.
In case you are wondering, my pyramid is made from 3/4 inch copper tube, 2 meter base, with welded corner joints.
Both Sucahyo and I as well as others have been working on alternative electrical devices for some time now. I worked in the electronics assembly and production business for several years.
I have been sleeping inside the pyramid (this small 2 meter one) for almost 30 years. I have also made pyramids of up the 8 meter bases as houses, green houses, or tents, etz...
So, I have been at this for a long time, close to 40 years... and yes I am looking for something that will produce enough juice to run my house's electrical needs. But a couple of free volts is still better than no volts at all...

[truesearch]

Conventional science says you cannot generate anything at all. Are you expecting KILOWATTS from a pyramid?
It seems so to me. It seems to me that ''a few volts'' is not an option.
I am sorry I cannot tell you you can run yoour house tomorrow from a pyramid or arrangement of cones because it won't happen tomorrow.
I am not a sort of person who would mislead people who want to run their houses on it. I am here to share information I have and I am sorry if this information won't create a kilowatt of power for a few dollars of parts. This is a lie which free energy SCAMers spin to people to sell them worthless plans for hundreds of dollars.
When you say energy from pyramid you mean electrichal power to run your home or Aether energy to charge water plants or heal?

Please would you clarify what are your expectations from it?
Thank you

I'd be pleased to get enough electrical power to simply run a small light continously ~ simply powered by the pyramid.

Sincerely,
truesearch

[robur]

Conventional science says you cannot generate anything at all. Are you expecting KILOWATTS from a pyramid?
It seems so to me. It seems to me that ''a few volts'' is not an option.
I am sorry I cannot tell you you can run yoour house tomorrow from a pyramid or arrangement of cones because it won't happen tomorrow.
I am not a sort of person who would mislead people who want to run their houses on it. I am here to share information I have and I am sorry if this information won't create a kilowatt of power for a few dollars of parts. This is a lie which free energy SCAMers spin to people to sell them worthless plans for hundreds of dollars.
When you say energy from pyramid you mean electrichal power to run your home or Aether energy to charge water plants or heal?

Please would you clarify what are your expectations from it?
Thank you

[NickZ]

Sucahyo and robur:
Thank your for your replies. Subtle energies are often hard to pin down and understand. I think this happens with crystals, and also with the energy from pyramids. Most people would not notice either as having anything to do with energy. And some like your wife may not be compatible with them, while others can really get a lot of enjoyment having them around. I am surrounded by them at home, and have not noticed any negative effect from them yet, but on the contrary they inspire me.
It is one spirit that reads those subtle energies, but most people can't read them at all.

@ robur- If you know how to obtain energy from a pyramid, please let us know. We are all ears... that is what this thread is about.
I'd like to ask you how do you "know" that it will work if you have not tried it, as most attempts at this have not really worked. At least not in producing more than just a couple of volts.

[sucahyo]

Thanks for the update and info NickZ.

About crystal negative effect, I found that my wife is not compatible with crystal. So I try not to have crystal with power in my house. I put them in my office.

I beleive that crystal is the one responsible for "frequency adjusting" effect of orgonite. Where some people would actually get worse after using orgonite for few days. I think this happen because of compatibility problem, for various reason.


For health use, I believe there are life and sleep crystal. I believe I have both and I can observe the disadvantage and advantage of the live one. But in my current knowledge, I can't neutralize the disadvantage. The sleep one having no direct effect but still seems able to manifest thought.


I consider swirling water, or water, or crystal, or pyramid as the source of orgone energy. I highly believe that there is a way to convert orgone energy to electricity. Many orgone device give jolt to people like the effect of high voltage. It is possible, but no clue how.

Here is photos from friend who swirl water and observe strong energy, which can be calm or energetic depend on rotation, very simple, replication by Tony Geron, bucket with hole at bottom:



Electricity will be produced if the energy can be converted with something.

My crystals are not just laying around collecting dust, they are pointed towards me... and are also in the direct Aether field of my 6 foot pyramid, redirecting the energy towards me, as I sleep under them nightly.

Very very interesting . Have you tried sleeping over the pyramid?

I held a gold ring on top of a 12 volt battery terminals, with my left hand, and held the rod in the right hand. Although I do feel the rod reacts to the polarity between the + and - terminals, the rod will spin (strongly at times), in a complete circle counter clock wise, in the same direction on both terminals.

Some possibility:
- energy greater than battery exist on your house, or your floor
- the rod produce influence your gold ring dowsing
- you are highly charged so the battery pole always seen as one polarity for you

I experience that kind of thing when:
- I put the battery on the floor and the floor emit energy (marble)
- I use ring that has crystal, and the crystal happen to has spirit

small battery is weak. Higher capacity battery would produce stronger reaction.

[robur]

@ Sucahyo and All:
The rods do react to crystals. Crystals can interact with mind energies, also. I use them mainly for healing purposes. I have not seen any negative effects from pyramids or crystals in all my years of being around them. That does not mean that there are no negative effects from them, but I personally have not experienced any negative effects. There are different opinions as to what is Negative, also. Energy is neither good nor bad. Is lightning bad because it can kill you?
or Sunlight bad because it can burn you?
The picture of the pyramid with the crystal capstone is very interesting. The real capstone was stolen off of the Great Pyramid, it may have been made from quarts also. But the Great Pyramids purpose was not the make electricity.
The trick is to tap the vortex, and get some power in return. But HOW???
My crystals are not just laying around collecting dust, they are pointed towards me... and are also in the direct Aether field of my 6 foot pyramid, redirecting the energy towards me, as I sleep under them nightly. I can tune in directly to them, as they seam to help in my visualizations. I wish that they would also help me figure out how the make electricity, but for some reason that information is not being made available to us. I feel that it is being BLOCKED.
There are people all over the world trying to figure out a way to produce electric power but so far, nothing... this is no coinsidense....
Adams -Bedini type of electric production, (passing magnets by coils), has been around for many, many, years.

Although I was just kidding, I would love to see the water in the pyramid glow green...

So, if water is swirled around by a motor to make a vortex in the water, how it this going to
help to produce electricity?

I wish that they would also help me figure out how the make electricity, but for some reason that information is not being made available to us. I feel that it is being BLOCKED.
I will say how you can make electricity, but again it depends of the pyramid and how it is made.

[truesearch]

@robur:

Have you taken time to put together instructions on making "copper-wire" cones yet?

Sincerely,
truesearch

[NickZ]

Sucahyo:
I held a gold ring on top of a 12 volt battery terminals, with my left hand, and held the rod in the right hand. Although I do feel the rod reacts to the polarity between the + and - terminals, the rod will spin (strongly at times), in a complete circle counter clock wise, in the same direction on both terminals. I thought that it would show a difference in directions, but it did not show that this time. I'll try again later on, and with a different battery. As this particular 12v battery pack is made as a straight inline dipole, using 8 AAs, 18" long with terminals at the ends. I had made it to test the idea that batteries can also bounce back and self-recharge to a small degree, like a capacitor, when connected in this fashion to a captret- Jt. That may have something to do with the rod spinning ccw on both battery terminals on this setup.
I do feel that understanding polarity is very important, especially in trying to tap vortex energy in an open system. Seams like the separation of polarities can lead to some current output, and not just voltage (fluff). The key may be in this separation of polarities... and domes, and pyramids can help to reflect, or mirror the energy back that is then recycled, and kept ringing like the Joule Ringer, so it is not lost in space. Round is better, (spheres and domes) and is also more natural form. But the pyramid geometry may have its useful purposes.
Negative resistance and kicks in the devices may also be important. That is what "Otto" kept saying in another forums TPU thread. Tinned copper wire was another item to use in wiring the the devices, and in winding their coils.
Sucahyo- yes, I did leave the gallon of water on the tile floor, and it does dissipate any charge that is in the water, overnight. Maybe the air is also partly responsible for the loss.

@ robur: I apreciate your comments and warnings, I just wanted an explanation of the negative effects.
Are these also your own personal observations?

[NickZ]

@ Sucahyo and All:
The rods do react to crystals. Crystals can interact with mind energies, also. I use them mainly for healing purposes. I have not seen any negative effects from pyramids or crystals in all my years of being around them. That does not mean that there are no negative effects from them, but I personally have not experienced any negative effects. There are different opinions as to what is Negative, also. Energy is neither good nor bad. Is lightning bad because it can kill you?
or Sunlight bad because it can burn you?
The picture of the pyramid with the crystal capstone is very interesting. The real capstone was stolen off of the Great Pyramid, it may have been made from quarts also. But the Great Pyramids purpose was not the make electricity.
The trick is to tap the vortex, and get some power in return. But HOW???
My crystals are not just laying around collecting dust, they are pointed towards me... and are also in the direct Aether field of my 6 foot pyramid, redirecting the energy towards me, as I sleep under them nightly. I can tune in directly to them, as they seam to help in my visualizations. I wish that they would also help me figure out how the make electricity, but for some reason that information is not being made available to us. I feel that it is being BLOCKED.
There are people all over the world trying to figure out a way to produce electric power but so far, nothing... this is no coinsidense....
Adams -Bedini type of electric production, (passing magnets by coils), has been around for many, many, years.

Although I was just kidding, I would love to see the water in the pyramid glow green...

So, if water is swirled around by a motor to make a vortex in the water, how it this going to
help to produce electricity?

[sucahyo]

Dowsing doesn't work with me. I am not sentitive to this energy.

I mean NickZ, he can.

But you should really try it. Try with golden ring on top of 12V battery terminal. hold for a minute with two hand rest on something to avoid shake. See if you can observe opposite rotation between different pole.

If you succeed, measure other thing.

[robur]

Do dowsing rod reacted strongly to the crystal or rods will point to whatever you choose it to be on top of them?

Dowsing doesn't work with me. I am not sentitive to this energy.

[robur]

Robur:
I am surrounded by many quarts crystals and have not seen any negative effects at all, to be careful about in relation to them. What negative effect should I be aware of? I have had many of them for years, some over for over 30 years.

As you have not built the device that you are mentioning, why do you think that it should work as expected, and what is it that it is expected to do, or produce?
Thank you for any information that you'd like to share.

If they just stand around that isn't a problem. But if quortz crystal comes in contact with Orgone/Aether or very high powered DC/AC field at wrong frequency and angle it can ''suck'' the life from you.

Here is is a render of how to use Clear Quortz crystal in a pyramid with maximum effect.
You can use this: PCB-fabriek | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
Double sided PCB Board. On both sides it is coated with copper and in the middle a layer of fibre glass.
Or use a solid Copper sheet.

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I am NOT trying to destroy conversation with warnings. I am trying to advise you to best of my knowledge so it reaches a success

[sucahyo]

Robur:
I am surrounded by many quarts crystals and have not seen any negative effects at all, to be careful about in relation to them. What negative effect should I be aware of? I have had many of them for years, some over for over 30 years.

Do dowsing rod reacted strongly to the crystal or rods will point to whatever you choose it to be on top of them?

[sucahyo]

Sucahyo:
The Bedini battery light only puts out 3/4 of a volt. So, solar panels are still a better bet. I think.
The benefit of using crystals is still not very well known. There is some kind of connection between crystal frequencies and pyramids, but I'm still just learning about it. I have several big quarts crystals all around the pyramid. They can also focus energy like a magnifier lens, but not electricity, as far as I know.

Thanks.

Will be interesting if solar panel can convert energy. I don't see 0.75V is a problem, we just to make a plenty of it, just like solar panel.

For GOD'S SAKE CAREFULL WITH CRYSTALS!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you mess with them in a wrong manner you can easyli kill yourself as crystal when in Aether field can amply any negative soughts or any negative energy thousands of times and then dump it on you.

Yes, I am aware of that. I also suggesting that to other people, although I got bad named by some people for suggesting them to be carefull with crystal. I got banned from suggesting crystal less orgonite.

I currently do an experiment with crystal and I always ask opinion from as many people as possible because I realize that crystal can be dangerous. Big gratitude for anyone who help me . Thank you Vtech .

My curiosity make me do experiment with crystal, but I try not to do it at home.

Water can be seen as crystal too. Swirling water can behave like crystal too.

Rodin coil can convert Aether to electrichal energy, but again you got wrong pyramid for it.

Friends use it with water swirler for health purposes and warn the importance of position relate to compass direction.

I can tell you how to combine pyramid Aether effect magnetism and water spin into 1 device, but I must warn you - i did not build it myself as of yet due to none stop on going health issues. I can tell you what you need to do, but if you go off these instructions the resultwill no longer be guoranteed or/and positive.

Yes, I agree that safety first and tiny difference can produce opposite results.

Joe Cell is partly based on Orgone. If you play with Otgone you can create DOR - Deadly Orgone. If you create that you are i trouble as it will wreck your health. Unfortunally if you don't live in the middle of no where makng DOR is easy. Orgone as Aether have frequency. Aether itself has no frequency as power frequency. Power frequency I mean vibration in hertz. To this Aether is blank. Aether has harmonic vibrational frequency which you also might call geomertrichal frequency. MAeaning it apears in structures that ''VIBRATE'' geometrichally accourding to the geometrichal shape of it's natural flow

Orgone on the other hand is very submissive to electronic frequencys. If you create Orhone near home devices like TV PS PC etc they all emmitte negative frequencys. Orgone will collect these frequencys absorb them then it starts to resonate them out from the source. And what will be resonating will be DOR.

Agree that Joe Cell can create DOR. I consider Joe Cell as bipolar device, so creating one polarity will induce the other.

Some people who build Joe Cell are energy sensitive. They mention that there are two type of Joe Cell operation, inflow and outflow. They also warn some health problem for wrong use or construction.

When the operation is inflow mode, the car cabin become completely EMF free and silence. Cellphone or GPS no longer work. In this mode gravity has less effect and thus car can accelerate, brake or turn defying normal equation.


I consider Joe Cell and pyramid with water inside use same kind of energy. Although the polarity pattern is different.


I have been using electronic device that I believe are utilizing orgone energy for health purposes. I highly believe that electricity can be made to produce DOR headache kind of energy or the opposite, calm energy. I highly believe this relate to signal sharpness. Example can be seen on people experiences in this forum, search "headache". Most of them are either using weak switching or Earth ground.

Aether is not submissive to negative frequencys of every day objects. Unless you reverse it's flow severly only then it will damage health. Raw aether as comes from pyramid is not dangerous.
Aether and magnetism are 2 alike. Magnetism can osiliate aether flow to convert it directly to electrichal energy. Specially built coils with a harmonic voltage acceleration can generate much much more Aether and compact it into a tight zone. Location of the zone depends on the construction of the generator. In pyramid this is king's chamber where 5 lines of vector force ontercept and create 6th dimension where Aether naturally occurs. However this can be change and make Aether to occure in other parts of the generator by using electric/magnetic fields to control it's position and flow.

Very interesting information . But not dangerous can be relative.

Distilled water is a BATTERY to absorb the energy and keep it but only as long as it is moving. When moving stops charge will begin to be lost.
At some point if water is super charged it is possible to make it glow with eeri green light which would be Aether energy saturation.

There is also possibility of saturated water, where the water eventually build up to many bad energy and start to emit bad energy too. The solution is to replace the water witht he fresh one.