Pyramid

[NickZ]

Robur:
I am surrounded by many quarts crystals and have not seen any negative effects at all, to be careful about in relation to them. What negative effect should I be aware of? I have had many of them for years, some over for over 30 years.

As you have not built the device that you are mentioning, why do you think that it should work as expected, and what is it that it is expected to do, or produce?
Thank you for any information that you'd like to share.

[robur]

Robur: Welcome to this thread.
If you have an idea of what you are talking about please make a diagram of it, or explain it to us.
I am interested in anything that may help, but not with building insignificant devices, that may take "days or weeks" to do anything.
These are only some preliminary polarity tests being done, and are not a final result.

If you have to swirl the water to form a vortex by hand, then what is needed to make this work?

As you say that we are going about this wrong, then what is the correct approach and how do you know? I am listening... and willing to do what your health won't allow you to do, if I can.
Regards from Costa Rica,
NickZ

You don't need to ''swirl'' it by hand. If you can find 12-15 V DC motor to do it for you it be fine. I willpost explonation tomorrow or can give you personally if you got any contacting details. This is a charger.
And no you won't need weeks for it to do something.
How fast do you expect a visible result?

[NickZ]

Sucahyo:
The Bedini battery light only puts out 3/4 of a volt. So, solar panels are still a better bet. I think.
The benefit of using crystals is still not very well known. There is some kind of connection between crystal frequencies and pyramids, but I'm still just learning about it. I have several big quarts crystals all around the pyramid. They can also focus energy like a magnifier lens, but not electricity, as far as I know.

[robur]

I have a bit more time right now since I left my job and I want to resume those test. I appreciate that you have joined this thread


Vtech

Thanks for trying and willing to risk it NickZ . Instead of leyden jar, how about Bedini Earth light? Crystal said to be able to convert the energy. We just need to use live crystal, which should be possible for you to know.


Thanks for sharing your knowledge Robur .

For water part, from Joe Cell group suggestion, we electrolized the water first with something equal to 1 Amp hour charging and then filter it. I think NickZ already doing this by 4 hours of joule thief, even with only one electrode from suggested normal electrolysis with two electrode. The water after that is charged and can hold charge better on Joe Cell.

About rotating water, yes, I have read some comment about fast CW rotation produce peace / calm / sleep. But some use it CCW to blast pain too. And I think spinning the water fast may charge the water better than the pyramid that the pyramid may be influenced by the water instead. The pyramid act as magnifying glass instead. Some friends suggest rodin coil for focusing energy.


About coil, I think link bellow may illustrate the point?
Double Vortex by laozu

For GOD'S SAKE CAREFULL WITH CRYSTALS!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you mess with them in a wrong manner you can easyli kill yourself as crystal when in Aether field can amply any negative soughts or any negative energy thousands of times and then dump it on you.

Rodin coil can convert Aether to electrichal energy, but again you got wrong pyramid for it.

I can tell you how to combine pyramid Aether effect magnetism and water spin into 1 device, but I must warn you - i did not build it myself as of yet due to none stop on going health issues. I can tell you what you need to do, but if you go off these instructions the resultwill no longer be guoranteed or/and positive.

Joe Cell is partly based on Orgone. If you play with Otgone you can create DOR - Deadly Orgone. If you create that you are i trouble as it will wreck your health. Unfortunally if you don't live in the middle of no where makng DOR is easy. Orgone as Aether have frequency. Aether itself has no frequency as power frequency. Power frequency I mean vibration in hertz. To this Aether is blank. Aether has harmonic vibrational frequency which you also might call geomertrichal frequency. MAeaning it apears in structures that ''VIBRATE'' geometrichally accourding to the geometrichal shape of it's natural flow
Orgone on the other hand is very submissive to electronic frequencys. If you create Orhone near home devices like TV PS PC etc they all emmitte negative frequencys. Orgone will collect these frequencys absorb them then it starts to resonate them out from the source. And what will be resonating will be DOR.
Aether is not submissive to negative frequencys of every day objects. Unless you reverse it's flow severly only then it will damage health. Raw aether as comes from pyramid is not dangerous.
Aether and magnetism are 2 alike. Magnetism can osiliate aether flow to convert it directly to electrichal energy. Specially built coils with a harmonic voltage acceleration can generate much much more Aether and compact it into a tight zone. Location of the zone depends on the construction of the generator. In pyramid this is king's chamber where 5 lines of vector force ontercept and create 6th dimension where Aether naturally occurs. However this can be change and make Aether to occure in other parts of the generator by using electric/magnetic fields to control it's position and flow.

Distilled water is a BATTERY to absorb the energy and keep it but only as long as it is moving. When moving stops charge will begin to be lost.
At some point if water is super charged it is possible to make it glow with eeri green light which would be Aether energy saturation.

[NickZ]

Robur: Welcome to this thread.
If you have an idea of what you are talking about please make a diagram of it, or explain it to us.
I am interested in anything that may help, but not with building insignificant devices, that may take "days or weeks" to do anything.
These are only some preliminary polarity tests being done, and are not a final result.

If you have to swirl the water to form a vortex by hand, then what is needed to make this work?

As you say that we are going about this wrong, then what is the correct approach and how do you know? I am listening... and willing to do what your health won't allow you to do, if I can.
Regards from Costa Rica,
NickZ

[sucahyo]

Thanks for trying and willing to risk it NickZ . Instead of leyden jar, how about Bedini Earth light? Crystal said to be able to convert the energy. We just need to use live crystal, which should be possible for you to know.


Thanks for sharing your knowledge Robur .

For water part, from Joe Cell group suggestion, we electrolized the water first with something equal to 1 Amp hour charging and then filter it. I think NickZ already doing this by 4 hours of joule thief, even with only one electrode from suggested normal electrolysis with two electrode. The water after that is charged and can hold charge better on Joe Cell.

About rotating water, yes, I have read some comment about fast CW rotation produce peace / calm / sleep. But some use it CCW to blast pain too. And I think spinning the water fast may charge the water better than the pyramid that the pyramid may be influenced by the water instead. The pyramid act as magnifying glass instead. Some friends suggest rodin coil for focusing energy.


About coil, I think link bellow may illustrate the point?
Double Vortex by laozu

[blackchisel97]

FIRST you need to preserve the energy - charge the water. Salty water is a conductor it conducts energy not preserves it. For the charge i recomend using DISTILLED water instead of salted. Distilled water is a dialectric it will absorb energy of pyramid and keep it. But charge will not stay forever. As soon as chaging had seased energy will begin to be lost slowly as soon as it out of charging field.

Yes, I agree on that

SECOND As you are using a liquid medium - water - it has billions trillions of moleculas. Naturally they move slowly. Very slowly. Your pyramid's energy is weak. Please don't ask me why I just know. In this this weak field charging will go on slowly. Hours days weeks. Your medium is motionless.
However, if you are to move it charging will be greatly accelerated. By moving I mean spin water clock wise. When water moving the moleculas are flying from one place to another fast and as they go they pick up the charge on the way. The Aethric Field is a sphera created which is created in the 6th dimension of a pyramid at the pointwhere 5 dimensional vectors meet ( see my PDF for details ). Pyramid is a 6th dimensional structure geometrically designed to generate this energy.

That's why I got an idea of creating a flow to collect a charge better. As you probably read from my earlier posts I was thinking of running water through bottom coil. Not sure if this is the best way of doing it.

THIRD Aether energy follows strick geometrichal paths. Along the lines of vectors and then appearing at the point of intersection of those vectors if the point of intersecton is minimuim 3 or 6. In pyramid it is 6. In a cone it is 3
Also in a cone the horizontal vectors are INFINITE. Cone is a better generator then pyramid because of it's rounded corners.

Interesting. I was suspecting better generation in pyramid shape but infinite horizontal vector is appealing to me.

FORTH Your spiral grid on the floor is correct. However, your wire from apex is NOT. This wire cannot be just like an extended spring. If you want higher effect it must be INVERSE COIL. INVERSE COIL is a spiral coil which comes down from apex to the grid below. So if you tyou got a pyramid with apex UP standing on floopw - you wire a roughtly indentical spiral coil smaller then the pyramid then you hang it by it's base fropm apex of pyramid so the apex of the coil is pointing DOWN. Thus you inverse energy field and it's power should increasse accourdingly.

Yes. I agree again. I was away from home for the past 10 mths and not able to continue. I knew that I have to make a proper coil from the apex but didn't have suitable material and enough time. I did explain to my wife my thoughts and she made something about. One thing was puzzling me: how they should be connected and in which point. I visualized vectors and their crossing but I couldn't reason just connecting both coils in such point. I always thought that there is something in between both apexes. My other idea was to have 6 spiral/cone shaped coils meeting like vectors but again, I could not believe they should be just connected. Another unknown to me was their beginnings (bases). In case of apex and floor it is obvious but I was not sure if the should come from the walls or corners (edges).

FITHS And final charter. Your testing plants are sitting on the side. The should be exactly at the centre. Some of you might not know it but here are 3 POWER POINTS on the pyramid, cone or structure like this. You only know of king's chamber. Here are 2 more each have it's own designation and effect. The materials from which it is made and how it is made play a big role in what you get. Ot is unfortunate people do not understand or want to understand.

We moved them, several times around. Actually, I wasn't sure of benefits coming from King's Chamber but suspected that Queen's may work better.

PM ME if you got questions.
I have reached an understanding
Robur

I have a bit more time right now since I left my job and I want to resume those test. I appreciate that you have joined this thread


Vtech

[robur]

[QUOTE=sucahyo;132490]Robur, what you share is very interesting. How do you know it?QUOTE]

Does it really matter how I know it? As long as it works. I cannot accomplish most of this myself due to health problems.

[robur]

5 Charters

FIRST you need to preserve the energy - charge the water. Salty water is a conductor it conducts energy not preserves it. For the charge i recomend using DISTILLED water instead of salted. Distilled water is a dialectric it will absorb energy of pyramid and keep it. But charge will not stay forever. As soon as chaging had seased energy will begin to be lost slowly as soon as it out of charging field.

SECOND As you are using a liquid medium - water - it has billions trillions of moleculas. Naturally they move slowly. Very slowly. Your pyramid's energy is weak. Please don't ask me why I just know. In this this weak field charging will go on slowly. Hours days weeks. Your medium is motionless.
However, if you are to move it charging will be greatly accelerated. By moving I mean spin water clock wise. When water moving the moleculas are flying from one place to another fast and as they go they pick up the charge on the way. The Aethric Field is a sphera created which is created in the 6th dimension of a pyramid at the pointwhere 5 dimensional vectors meet ( see my PDF for details ). Pyramid is a 6th dimensional structure geometrically designed to generate this energy.

THIRD Aether energy follows strick geometrichal paths. Along the lines of vectors and then appearing at the point of intersection of those vectors if the point of intersecton is minimuim 3 or 6. In pyramid it is 6. In a cone it is 3
Also in a cone the horizontal vectors are INFINITE. Cone is a better generator then pyramid because of it's rounded corners.

FORTH Your spiral grid on the floor is correct. However, your wire from apex is NOT. This wire cannot be just like an extended spring. If you want higher effect it must be INVERSE COIL. INVERSE COIL is a spiral coil which comes down from apex to the grid below. So if you tyou got a pyramid with apex UP standing on floopw - you wire a roughtly indentical spiral coil smaller then the pyramid then you hang it by it's base fropm apex of pyramid so the apex of the coil is pointing DOWN. Thus you inverse energy field and it's power should increasse accourdingly.

FITHS And final charter. Your testing plants are sitting on the side. The should be exactly at the centre. Some of you might not know it but here are 3 POWER POINTS on the pyramid, cone or structure like this. You only know of king's chamber. Here are 2 more each have it's own designation and effect. The materials from which it is made and how it is made play a big role in what you get. Ot is unfortunate people do not understand or want to understand.

PM ME if you got questions.
I have reached an understanding
Robur

[NickZ]

Sucahyo and All:
I will now try the reverse way of connecting the Jt to the pyramid. Like you had mentioned earlier. I know this all sounds backwards, but I had to try it anyhow.

No headaches to report. Thanks for the warning.
I try to stay out of the pyramid when the tests are being done, just in case, as I am sensitive...
The water I use is already"live".
I think that a "Leyden Jar" type of capacitor maybe what is needed to convert Aether to Electricity, inside the pyramid. As it is now, it is still like trying to read the wind with a voltmeter.
I could make a Leyden Jar capacitor out of a one litter glass jar, using salt water, or ocean water, lined with aluminum foil on both sides of the jar. A positive connection off of the top of the jar that is also going down into the water. Salt water conducts even better. What do you think?
I will do another Jtc-pyramid reverse polarity test later on tonight. Just to see what happens.
I always expect the unexpected, it just doesn't seam to happen often enough. I have a 12 volt battery bank ready to connect to it. It should pulse the pyramid through the Jtc with close to a hundred spikey volts, or more. What do I expect to happen? Who knows... maybe the water will light up... ha!

NZ

[sucahyo]

Robur, what you share is very interesting. How do you know it?


NickZ, very interesting that pyramid change polarity with the existance of water. Maybe the water act as a crystal inside a pyramid...

I am going to connect the negative (-) of a Jtc secondary, to the gallon of water that is in the center of the pyramid. And the positive rail of the Jtc to the 6 foot copper pyramid frame.
So the reading(s) should be taken between the frame and the water???

Please dowse the influence on your health too when you connect it like that. I hope it do not get you headache problem... For power reading, yes, frame and water with volt meter.


I think water can be made alive too and produce another influence if the water are swirled.

[NickZ]

Sucahyo:
I am going to connect the negative (-) of a Jtc secondary, to the gallon of water that is in the center of the pyramid. And the positive rail of the Jtc to the 6 foot copper pyramid frame.
So the reading(s) should be taken between the frame and the water???
I was viewing some of your videos, as I'm trying to understand your ideas and reasonings. I don't know where it's all going... but it has not bored me yet.

I'll be doing the test tonight, batteries are charging... I think that 3 volts is ok for this.
I tried to use up to 12 volt, but the small transistor in the Jtc gets too hot. I can connect it for a limited time, just to see the results.
I would need to change it to a tip3055, and a new pot and resistor, to pulse the frame with 12 volts or more (more than 100 volt spikes), but, I fried my old pot and haven't been able get any more here. So, I'm somewhat limited in tuning for now.

@ Robur:
Thanks for your comments. I would like to see your wire cone idea.
I'm thinking of making a small 4 or 6 inch wire framed pyramid with a bifilar wound core on the frame for a couple of tests, soon.

Domes and spheres also reflect back or re focus energy and may be the best to use for these purposes. They are all geomagnetic energy foams.
Or possibly like an Aether energy reflector of sorts. When a Kick from a coil inside the device hits the dome, pyramid, or cone framing, the energy is reflected back, and contained. It is not allowed to be lost in space, but reflected back and recycled to a degree. That is the theory...

[robur]

Also, please let me tell you that you are using a wrong type of material.
If pyramid is made from wood it cannot absorb energy so you get lesser effct. MUCH lesser effect.I will post instructions on making a cone from copper wire soon.
Here is 1 interesting experiment I like you to try since you got a pyramid made of dialectric - generation of power using a coil osiliated by a pernament magnet. I will post description and instruction this evening.

[robur]

Cones

I went beyond pyramid to understanding how energy is generated and ways to improove it without using orgonite.
See attachments. This is only small portion of it.

I am getting ready for experimentations soon. ALSO, I intend to make my cones powered.

[NickZ]

Pyramid test 1: One gallon of water 4 hours charge inside the pyramid with no pulse circuit connected. The pyramid charged water in the gallon is now making the rod point opposite of what it does normally without the water being in the pyramid. So, charging the water has changed the polarity inside the pyramid, by 180 degrees.
Now 1/3 level the rod points south, and 2/3 level points north. A complete opposite of before, after only 4 hours charge. I will connect the Jtc tonight.