I made a AA battery holder for my 12 volt battery charger, by taking a Pvc 1/2" pipe about 15" long, that holds in-line 8 AA batteries,and has caps on the ends of the pipe. So, I can connect those 12 volts or so from this battery bank (without the ac to dc wall adaptor) to the Jtc, and then to the to the water bucket. Than should give more umgh...
The gallon of water is charging now inside the pyramid, and will be ready tonight for any tests.
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Thank you NickZ. brass rod have more resistance is surprising.
How do you know you lost too many voltage?
I will look forward for pyramid water charging. Can you also dowse which one give stronger charge to the water? JT vs pyramid?
Did you leave the water near the ground? Maybe it do act like capacitor and get neutralize with ground.
Would the rods direction change in the range of 2 or 3 seconds?
I highly believe that if we connect the water in the bucket to the grid, even with indirect method, we will absorp the energy from the grid too. In my case, it seems to be the unpleasant one.
I think it is better if you use 12V battery if you have one. Or at least 3V source. I use 2500mAh nimh that can last for more than 48 hours if I set the output to around 45V.
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Explanation: I placed the brass rod into the charged gallon of water after one new AA battery's charge died, (after about 6 hours use). Jt positive only connected to the water in the test. The reading from the voltmeter taken off of the brass rod sticking out of the water is less that taken from off the top of the water itself. So, water conducts voltage better than my solid 1/4 inch brass rod in the water. When the rod is inside the water, water conducts about 12 volts, and the top rod conducts about 8 volts, only, when it is in the same water.
I think that the wire that I am using to connect the Jt to the water needs to be much shorter and maybe thicker. I'm using 18 guage magnet wire, and there is too much resistance in it with this voltage as it loses too much voltage in the one meter distance. I will change that to shorter wire. No wonder that Ac current is used in homes, as Dc current loses to way much voltage even at very short distances.
I will charge the gallon of water inside the pyramid today all day, and take a reading with the rods tonight. To see if it reacts somewhat similar to when it is charged by the Jt.
This morning the water bucket (without the connection to the Jtc) would not make the rods swing like last night. So, what ever it is that make them do that does not last overnight, at least not without the circuit connected.
I think that higher voltage is needed to see more significant results. You had mentioned to use a pulse circuit. Mine are not strong, but do work ok, I think. Its makes a difference even when the AA in the Jt is getting low, with not as much effects noticed as when using a new battery.
The rod does move back and forth 180 degrees in a regular constant and strong manner when reading the top of the charged gallon of water, to answer your question.
The charge does get absorbed by the water, and consumes about 100 mA or so from the battery per hour.
I can also try to connect an 18 volt wall adapter direct with the gallon of water instead. Or even to connect the 18 volts to the Jtc TIP3055 trans., and pulse with that, as it will be much strong in voltage, but not much current.
Any ideas are welcome.
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Very interesting. Would the rods change rotation in a timed manner?Originally posted by NickZ View PostSucahyo:
An update... I've noticed the rods will move back and forth a full 180 degrees swing or so over the gallon of water, now, after being charged, and also while the positive wire from the secondary of the Jt is inside the water. At the same time if a 20 led bulb is connected to the Jt secondary using only the Negative rail, it will light especially if I hold it. There are some interesting effects going on. Even as I'm just starting to play with it.
I think using water in a bucket is similar to we hold it by hand. I use water volume about as much as my body volume.
Can you explain more about what you mean by water conduct better?Originally posted by NickZ View PostThe water in the gallon jug is now conducting the voltage of about 12 volts, only, so I may need more voltage than 1.3 volts input that I'm using now to notice any further effects.
Live water is a very good conductor and may also function similar to a capacitor or an electret to a degree. I also notice that water conducts a higher voltage compared to the dowsing rod when I placed it in the gallon of water. Water conducts better than solid 1/3 thick brass rod, amazing...
Fun stuff...
12V with one voltmeter probe on water and other on your body? Which one more positive?
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Thanks for the info NickZ.
Here is what I use:

I forget to mention that my feet touch the ground when I measure the water in the bucket against my self. The water in the bucket still connected to the circuit when I measure it, and the circuit use battery as power.
If I use power supply to power the circuit, and connecting the radiant positive output to the water in the bucket, the voltage will be enough to make you jolt. So I never do it with my son around. With 3V I can felt it tickle.
I use that circuit as health zapper too and with 3V it can produce enough voltage/current to paralyze my hand when I hold both end of the toroid coil.
I dowse the water and it seems to be consistent with which radiant polarity I connect it.
An idea, Close loop the pyramid frame, so there is four triangle loop and one square loop in the pyramid. I don't know if we should make the frame between each triangle to flow one direction or not.
Can you post the diagram? I think you should connect the other leg of the secondary to the primary to make it stronger.
I don't think you need bigger toroid for it. Try my circuit if it is easier.Last edited by sucahyo; 02-25-2011, 03:22 AM.
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Sucahyo:
An update... I've noticed the rods will move back and forth a full 180 degrees swing or so over the gallon of water, now, after being charged, and also while the positive wire from the secondary of the Jt is inside the water. At the same time if a 20 led bulb is connected to the Jt secondary using only the Negative rail, it will light especially if I hold it. There are some interesting effects going on. Even as I'm just starting to play with it. The water in the gallon jug is now conducting the voltage of about 12 volts, only, so I may need more voltage than 1.3 volts input that I'm using now to notice any further effects.
Live water is a very good conductor and may also function similar to a capacitor or an electret to a degree. I also notice that water conducts a higher voltage compared to the dowsing rod when I placed it in the gallon of water. Water conducts better than solid 1/3 thick brass rod, amazing...
Fun stuff...
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Sucahyo:
I charged one gallon of water in a plastic contaner with the Jt for about 4 hours using a new 1.5 volt AA battery. The out put on the secondary of this Jtc with a one inch toroid coil, is not so strong, as I'm using the yellow Pc toroids that are made from Iron power, instead of ferrite. But can still give you a tingle at times.
I did not notice any voltage difference between the pyramid and the gallon of charged water, by using the volt meter. The rods acted the same still showing the same 180 degree difference between the 1/3 to 2/3 levels direction. Also did not notice voltage between the water bucket and myself. As you mentioned it may take a higher voltage over 100 volts. My pulse circuit is not that strong. I can't get the bigger higher perm ferrite toroids here without having to order them and have them shipped from elsewhere.
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Sucahyo:
Now I understand. Thank you for the explanation. I will try it tonight, and let you know.
Very interesting results on your tests with the bucket of water verses the outside ground. There must be a good reason for that. I would have never imagined it. Great idea!
What I had originally thought of doing was to make a small pyramid out of cooper tubing or thick copper wire, and make that the core, then wind a joule thief bifilar coil onto the frame, all the way around the small 4 or 6 inch pyramid. Then pulce that...and get the Bemf. I think that the bigger the bifilar coil is the stronger the bemf kick is going to be. I am also thinking that I would use 12v to pulse the small pyramid, from a solar panel, or for now just a 12 wall adapter to see how it works. Any output can be taken off the top or by a secondary wound onto the frame.
Anyways, i still don't have a clear picture of it in my head yet.
I'll get the water in the bucket charged up now.
And do your test tonight.
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Not from pyramid frame to pyramid frame but from pyramid frame to water in a bucket.Originally posted by NickZ View PostI can see no voltage from the pyramid frame
My circuit register double output voltage with non grounded water vs ground. 150V with non grounded water, 50V with ground.Originally posted by NickZ View PostI will do that also sometime, when I get a 5 meter long wire and copper ground rod.
I think water which is not grounded is much better than ground.
Agree. Maybe a high voltage capacitor.Originally posted by NickZ View PostI also think that you would need a capacitor to convert to any usable electric power.
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I can see no voltage from the pyramid frame, but I think that I need the - outside ground connection for it to register the difference in potentials. I will do that also sometime, when I get a 5 meter long wire and copper ground rod. I also think that you would need a capacitor to convert to any usable electric power. What do you think? I don't mind the joule thief being stronger than the pyramid if there is something to be gained. I wish that I had more insight... and the bulb in my head would light up, also.
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That site seems down often, I attach the page.
It is worrying to see the event coming. A friend who has orgonite and cloudbuster post very proud achievement of not having cyclone for two years, then cyclone strike his town three days after that for days. Two lesson, first prepare for the unexpected, second, don't let coincidence to cloud your judgement.
The mango tree still produce tasty fruit when it produce many fruit last year. People do force reduce the fruit to make it tasty. However I think if the condition is right, we don't need to do that. If you have farm, can you try cemenite and clockwise copper in watering device?
Volt meter can detect voltage difference of water bucket with ground or our body, especially if your circuit output >100V. But that will register value right away. Won't need time to wait. Not sure if it still register voltage after we disconnect it from radiant circuit, but I bet it can be around 1V like some electrolysis experiment shows. But that is not what I meant.
What I meant is to measure it with your dowsing rod. To see if pyramid energy change with the water bucket. If it is then putting joule thief in the pyramid is useless because pyramid would be weaker then the joulethief in term of unseen energy generation. Joule thief will influence the pyramid instead of the opposite.
Try to see if pyramid frame show some voltage in voltmeter compared to water in a bucket.Attached FilesLast edited by sucahyo; 02-24-2011, 03:01 AM.
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Sucahyo:
The last link you sent did not work.
Earthquake in New Zealand. (check the picture).
I was wondering what this last Feb. full moon would bring. New moon can also be just as strong an effect. 3 days after the full moon is when the highest tides are noticed here.
Less than two years left...
The last fruits to fall from a tree are always the biggest, and if totally ripe will have the best flavor. As all the energy from the tree is only shared by very few fruit, so, there is more flavor and a bigger size. My wife puts fruit out in the yard for all the birds. If you do, you will have all the birds in the area in your yard.
I had an huge avocado tree that would harvest about 4000 fruits, and about 3 times that many would fall on the ground while still very small and unripe. The tree could only handle 1/3 of the amount of fruit that it could produce. The rest would fall off by themselves. 4000 were sold.
I have a small analog volt-meter, but it is not very accurate at voltages under one volt. Can this meter be used to determine the water bucket test. And how to do it. I was busy the last couple of days and have not done the bucket of water test yet. But, I did try to see if my pyramid would light a joule thief, but so far, no results.
Maybe a proper capacitor is needed, for the energy conversion to electrical output. The joule thief will light on about 1/2 volt in the battery, but I don't think that there is any electric output from the pyramid frame, 0 volts by itself. A grounding wire to an outside ground source probably is needed, I have not done that yet.
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Thanks NickZ. I have something said to produce big polarity. I will try on that. I forget where I put my copper tube so I will try thick copper wire.
I have been trying to make artificial live flowing water. I find cemenite and copper tube help somehow.
The mango is the same. While there are artificial way by spraying chemical to force it produce fruit twice a year, my neighboor mango is surely never be treated with anything. The tree supposed to already pass fruiting age. The tree already produce fruit few months ago but some how there is one or two fruit keep growing. It taste very sweet too, unlike what my neighboor mention it was. So my neighboor is not too excited seeing the mango have fruit again. Besides, the only branches that produce fruit are the one that grow over my yards.
On ATREE reference, the energy is said to accumulate under the ball skin. So normal electricity over, radiant electricity under.
Interesting info on radio meter
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Sucahyo:
Dowsers depend on the direct feelings from any emanations visible, as well as from invisible sources.
The 14 to 16 inch total rod length will work fine. Just try it and see. You can also make several different types and lengths to try.
Every thing emits vibrations and waves, which can be be felt with the rods regardless of tuning. It's not like it won't work if the rod is an inch or so longer or shorter.
Testing the 1/3 and 2/3 areas in the pyramid, can also be done with a pendulum. This may also show the cw or ccw direction or flow difference.
I will try to connect a joule thief to the bucket of water, later on tonight. But, I'm not sure how to how to determine the outcome.
I have heard the water can be charged, and is the reason I prefer to drink Live flowing water, from wells or streams, instead of the dead boiled stuff in the bottles.
I have tried a 10 inch steel core bifilar coil placed on the very top of the 6 foot pyramid, but nothing special to report. I think that a copper air core coil may work better, but who knows.
I feel that there is something to the Dome device and its ability to produce lots of current. Nobody else has be able to produce that much current with any other device. The thought comes to mind, to try to do something similar.
Your polarity difference idea, may be similar to the reason the Dome works as it does, in separating the + from the -. In doing so, we may also be separating one kind of energy from another.
Interesting that you mention about the mangos falling, as we have no mangos fruiting here right now, since they are not in season. In Venezuela for example the mangos are harvested twice each year, but here in Costa Rica they only produce from May to July, once a year. So, I see that the reason is because there is more life force present there year-round, as also different currents.
There was a device that was originally called a
Vortexometer, then the name was changed to Radiometer, when it was commercialized many years ago. It was a clear vacume sealed glass bulb with 4 mica cups inside of it, that were black on one side and white on the other. They spun around when placed in the sun. The device proves that the more light intensity there is, the more energy is present in the air.
At 10.000 feet altitude there is 40 % more visible light intensity, and therefore also more energy present in the air.
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