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Yes, it makes sense.Originally posted by sucahyo View PostThat is interesting. Would the LED is not as bright when the coil is placed elsewhere? I can only detect EMF at apex and under the base
Schauberger use water droppler voltage output as water / fuel energizer too.
Since kevin dropplet produce voltage, I think we may need water to convert pyramid energy to electricity. That's what I was thinking. Now, if we could allow the charge to get stronger? What we have is hv (I was getting 15 - 20kV every 30 sec) and a spark gap. What if we use water as a floating core of a cones as well as capacitor. Liquid capacitor.
About space time antenna, consider plus as the location with more potential and where the flow of energy goes:
- based from my ice experiment, I consider the plus side of this spiral coil is the one we see:

- based from my plant experiment, I consider the tip of pyramid to be the plus side. Based on my test I would consider a tip or an apex if you will as positive.
From both consideration then my theory for this space time antenna interpretation:

- the normal cone winding is wrong, since the point create plus but the winding direction create minus.
- the inverted cone point create plus at its point at the bottom and create plus from its winding
hypotheses:
1. I think space time antenna purposes is to collide queen's chamber with king's chamber to one another. This would create pulsation like a flip flop.
2. However if the normal winding is actually right, then it probably create polarity so one queen's chamber is more positive than other queen's chamber.
If 1 is right then just like electronic flip flop circuit, it can start oscillating if there is imbalance. We introduce imbalance by pulsating current to the top side and bottom side. From Joe cell charging perspective, three tap from 12V battery can replace AC zap.
I'm reading some more of Schauberger and Russell. Just got another book.
Thanks
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That is interesting. Would the LED is not as bright when the coil is placed elsewhere?Originally posted by blackchisel97 View PostI'll try to sort this out and come up with something, if I can. I just tested one cone with small pulse. EMF under is much stronger than over the apex. I pulsed cone from pendulum (approx. 3V) and I can collect almost 3V pulses (bright LED) from the coil placed 2 inches under the cone.
Schauberger use water droppler voltage output as water / fuel energizer too.
Since kevin dropplet produce voltage, I think we may need water to convert pyramid energy to electricity.
About space time antenna, consider plus as the location with more potential and where the flow of energy goes:
- based from my ice experiment, I consider the plus side of this spiral coil is the one we see:

- based from my plant experiment, I consider the tip of pyramid to be the plus side.
From both consideration then my theory for this space time antenna interpretation:

- the normal cone winding is wrong, since the point create plus but the winding direction create minus.
- the inverted cone point create plus at its point at the bottom and create plus from its winding
hypotheses:
1. I think space time antenna purposes is to collide queen's chamber with king's chamber to one another. This would create pulsation like a flip flop.
2. However if the normal winding is actually right, then it probably create polarity so one queen's chamber is more positive than other queen's chamber.
If 1 is right then just like electronic flip flop circuit, it can start oscillating if there is imbalance. We introduce imbalance by pulsating current to the top side and bottom side. From Joe cell charging perspective, three tap from 12V battery can replace AC zap. Maybe selenoid coil at certain frequency bridging the queen's chamber and king's chamber at the inside of both can also produce the same effect.Last edited by sucahyo; 04-04-2011, 03:39 AM.
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BC and All:
I share your frustration.
I think that a vortex spinning one way, and another spinning the opposite way are the key to Aether energy production, and many other things, like a creating a Merkaba, space travel, food, and water production, etz..
The inverse spiral shaped coils are also a vortex within a vortex, and can or do attract Aether and convert it to whatever is needed.
I think that there is no coinsidence in the similarity to the Pyramid vortex mind device, shown earlier, (also inspired by ETs), as both devices seam to require a pyramid for the opposite side of the polarity to function, and produce an output.
They (ETs) are helping us to resolve this energy production thing Ourselves, in baby steps, one step at a time. So, like with everything else, we'll think that it was us that actually invented the new device.
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Isn't that funny? It reminds me of Marko Rodin and his lengthy sophisticated talks about sacred geometry, numerology etc. I only survived 1/2 hour of this lecture. On other hand Alexander Petty and Jamie Buturff did some real work to see the possibilities. That's what I call research and sharing ideas.Originally posted by NickZ View PostSo far nobody has been able to make the device produce anything, besides shorting itself out by using Ac 110 volt wall current. The rest of the missing information is needed. Makes me wonder if Anybody has been able to make this work, including the designer of the coils. No tested working model, only diagrams, again.
I did check this guy website; as usual, DVD's, books, seminars, donations welcome, nothing solid, no replication etc. I'm opposite to skeptic but I've heard and read sooo many amazing theories and ideas before. I have a few of my own
Yes, there are things he talks about which are correct and I can sort them out in my head but what about the rest of the story? wall:
It is possible to wind this coil with bare wire. Tubing will be tricky when getting close to the apexes without a tool allowing to bend on such small radius. Personally, I don't like the idea of insulated (common electrical) wire due to the insulating material. Enameled should be fine. This is nearly short circuit however, it represents capacitance and it will work as an antenna of some kind. I can't grasp the concept of energizing. Idea with using 110V seems ridiculous to me. Perhaps much smaller pulse or just DC but which points? For some reason I imagine those cones not connected.
Don't know. Sorry for rant, been frustrated for couple of days and need to vent
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So far nobody has been able to make the device produce anything, besides shorting itself out by using Ac 110 volt wall current. The rest of the missing information is needed. Makes me wonder if Anybody has been able to make this work, including the designer of the coils. No tested working model, only diagrams, again.
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So far nobody has been able to make the device produce anything, besides shorting itself out by using Ac 110 volt wall current. The rest of the missing information is needed. Seams like the same old game.
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Future Pather and All:
I've just seen his video, as well as some others that he has out now. Thank you for the link, he appears to be the real thing (ET). As well as the device shown. He knows too much to not be what he says he is.
Might be the first time an ET talks on YouTube. At least with some useful information. I have been waiting for just such a thing. As I can tune into his voice vibrations, I feel that he is for real, and so it the device . NO BS.
I totally agree with the method of space travel. Demodulation... of the body as well as of any space craft. I feel this is the start of a new wave of information, that was previously blocked. The door is opening, to the unseen Ether worlds. Like the Stargate in Aden, and Seagate by Puerto Rico. They are open, and functioning. Soon what is really happening there will be announced on Tv, Youtube, etz.
There must be other examples of his antenna coil working somewhere.
I wonder what it can produce, and what is the rest needed to make it function. I've seen another video of someone making his 3 foot tall spiral coil device, and tried to connect it to the wall socket. Of course since it is a closed circuit, it caused a direct short. And no further proof of concept shown. In any case it's about time that something different comes along.
His device does remind me of the Vortex mind device mentioned previously, and I'll bet it works in a similar fashion as other Aether conversion devices. We need to understand the how and why it works, he says it works like a transformer-capacitor of sorts. I see it as a vortex-Aether conversion device, similar to how a pyramid functions.
Again, thank you for the link, it is very interesting and hopefully will take us the take the next step of energy production.
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Yes, I watched this too. Those two inverted cones do make sense. It reminds me of a coil I have it done once but it is more like a bifilar spiral. You can either pull apexes out or bases out - which will look similar to this one.
I can't find anything more about the entire device.
@sucahyo Very good idea with shaping nozzle and nice results
To me it confirms that vortex shape will increase charging.
I keep thinking about Kelvin experiment which I also replicated over 30 years ago. There was 15 -20kV spark jumping across the gap every 30 -40 sec and water was flowing from 3' height. What could happen if water nozzles will have same kind of "vortex modulating" shape. How can we use this knowledge. What if we circulate water without discharging or increase the gap and discharge into capacitor? What if we run water pipe through a cone coil modulated with certain freq. or maybe a trifilar wound cone pulsed with harmonic freq.?
I'll try to sort this out and come up with something, if I can. I just tested one cone with small pulse. EMF under is much stronger than over the apex. I pulsed cone from pendulum (approx. 3V) and I can collect almost 3V pulses (bright LED) from the coil placed 2 inches under the cone.
Vtech
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I agree. Very interesting. Thanks again Dingo.Originally posted by future pather View PostThat's cool
You made one?
I try to look for more about space time antenna yesterday and found this info:
- use 57 degree angle cone
- must be insulated copper
- need to be above 3 feet high
- need to be zapped with AC electricity after
- work like orgone generator device after zapped
- is the first beginner step for power generator device, a device to learn the concept
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Thanks for the link NickZ
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But wow, a lot of many method in one. I think if the order or polarity is conflicting, it can produce less effect than if it use only one method.
I use this bellow inserted into water hose:

And I get this:

I think you should use volt meter next time NickZ, between your body to anything being charged.
I hope that guy can join this thread too.
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Sucahyo:
In case you haven't seen this double water vortex video, I though you might like to take a look: YouTube - RESTRUCTURED WATER VORTEX MACHINE GEM
I connected the secondary of a Jtc to my 6 foot copper tube pyramid today. I slightly disconnected one corner joint at the bottom of the pyramid where one tube is going up, so I can connect a meter there and also the input voltage going into the pyramid. It now stores the charge from the Jt and discharges it in one second. It's acting as if the Jt were connected to a capacitor, of sorts.
Input of higher voltages (1000 volts, or more) would be interesting to try, but even with the low voltages that I'm applying now (18 volts from the Jt secondary), I got shocked so hard that it made me throw the Jtc across the room. I was sweaty, salty, barefoot, so I made a great ground.
I'm still just trying to learn about how the "capacitor effect" can store an electric charge in metals like aluminum foil, or the copper tubes of the pyramid's frame.
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Guys:
I have gotten a reply from the guy that I e-mailed about the pyramid mind device. I have e-mailed him again, and have invited him to our forum discussion on Pyramids.
He mentioned that his device although not made for the purpose of electricity production, does produce a bright light inside, without any source of external power. So, that sounds interesting, and I'm glad that he did reply back.
I'll let you know more when I hear back from him.
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