Imhotep's Radiant Oscillator Video

[Lidmotor]

@Lidmotor: Nice experiment again!
Do you think that batteries charged with the captured energy will also last longer than normal batteries? I am trying to figure out if it is radiant spikes charging the capacitor in the secondary circuit or just amplified RF converted into current.

I don't know. I really really don't know. This might be simple induction occuring in the little coil when the bulb fires OR----something else.
In Joe Tate's setup he is just capturing the RF in the air. This bulb wrap idea may be a butterfly net effect capturing whatever gets in it. Who cares. I see it as a free lunch.

Lidmotor

[Xenomorph]

What kind of energy in secondary circuit?

@Lidmotor: Nice experiment again!
Do you think that batteries charged with the captured energy will also last longer than normal batteries? I am trying to figure out if it is radiant spikes charging the capacitor in the secondary circuit or just amplified RF converted into current.

[Lidmotor]

CFL bulb coil

Looking at my "CFL Table Candle circuit".

My Coil around the top of the CFL bulb cutting the bulb in half.
If the bulb coil is connected to just about any place in the circuit, the
1st half of the bulb will brighten and the second half will dim.
The coil chokes off the flow through the bulb, but the ?back pressure?
brightens the 1st half. What does that mean?

A wet or licked finger will make the bulb brighter than a dry finger.
Maybe that's why a carrot works, the water content.

Foil connected to the non-HV side of the CFL will cause the foil to SING
(whine) to you if you touch the foil. Move your finger around the foil.
What does that tell us?

Observing .. no longer
Randy

Hi Randy,
I played around with different coil locations on the bulb and found that a small coil right at the beginning of the HV side did not effect the brightness nor the running of the circuit- IF-- you didn't try to connect it to anything in the primary circuit. That is why I setup a second independent circuit. To me it reminds me of trying to directly connect the charge battery to the source on a Bedini--it just kills it. Your singing foil is like what I heard when I tried an alluminum pie tin against the CFL as an antenna pick up. This thing really has a voice. Is it Elvis?

Lidmotor

[Vortex]

One of my commentors on Youtube told me to try this Joe Tate device on my CFL project. It pulls energy from ambient RF coming from an outside long wire antenna and bumps the voltage up enough to charge a AA battery or run something really small. The commentor thought that this might run my CFL but it didn't. What it did do though, was make a charger using the energy coming off the CFL. This is something that Bodkins and I worked on way back but I never got a circuit that I was happy with. This Tate device just uses caps and diodes.
Joe Tate: Ambient Power Module

Here is my video of it working by using a coil of wire around the bulb instead of an antenna.

YouTube - CFL Table Candle with Power Module charging

Lidmotor

Looking at my "CFL Table Candle circuit".

My Coil around the top of the CFL bulb cutting the bulb in half.
If the bulb coil is connected to just about any place in the circuit, the
1st half of the bulb will brighten and the second half will dim.
The coil chokes off the flow through the bulb, but the ?back pressure?
brightens the 1st half. What does that mean?

A wet or licked finger will make the bulb brighter than a dry finger.
Maybe that's why a carrot works, the water content.

Foil connected to the non-HV side of the CFL will cause the foil to SING
(whine) to you if you touch the foil. Move your finger around the foil.
What does that tell us?

Observing .. no longer
Randy

[hh1341]

In case you guys haven't seen this stuff, it's well presented.

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/3351-resonance-effects-everyone-share.html

Carl

[sucahyo]

Thanks .

The link you post mention about "protective mode". I think that is what happen to my power supply.

About 2N2222, I guess I have to use only power transistors.

Additional note for my replication:
- when dumping induction to positive, current seems to increase proportionaly depend on what used to receice the back EMF. More current being taken to the dump load instead of lighting the neon, but also more power to the back EMF load. Able to generate bubble to HHO cells. Power supply refuse to turn on when using 12V primary.
- when dumping induction to negative, the computer power supply is more tolerable, allow for more neon brightness.

[Inquorate]

Lab pc power supply

@Sucahyo - re transistors, I haven't used Tip3055's before. If they can handle high amps and high voltage like the 2n3055's I'd say they'd be ok..

A pc power supply will auto shut off unless it is tricked into thinking it is running a computer. Details on how to re-wire it are here:

How to Convert a Computer ATX Power Supply to a Lab Power Supply - wikiHow

Wire - wound resistors.. I just used them on a whim :-)

Could be you fried the 2n2222's on your circuit from the back emf / voltage spikes from your transformer. Ps some transformers just hum, imo. I have one that does.

[sucahyo]

Replication video

Still figuring out what is wrong with my implementation here is a replication of slightly modified Imhotep Radiant Oscillator. Instead of dumping the induction to source positive, I dump it to source negative, like the diagram I posted previously(http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post40668). I dump it to a HHO generator miniature.

Using computer power supply, the voltage is 12V, the current is 0.09Amp .I wonder if this reading are valid, measured from source negative. Transformer 12V primary and 240V secondary is used. The neon is taken from 8 watt CFL.

The neon light up about half it's original. It light up brighter than original using 6V primary, but my power supply can only run it for a second before it shut it self. Maybe because the power supply almost reach it's end of life or the amp draw significantly higher than it's reading.............

Video:
YouTube - Neon driver using Imhotep circuit, 90mA !

[sucahyo]

flip flop failing

@Inquorate, thanks. I'll see if I can find that transistor here. Would TIP3055 better than 2N3055? what is the function of wire wound resistor?

@Lidmotor, that is interesting. It seems the current version of ambient power work best as battery charger.

I decide to build the device and test it. The component value are in attachment. I don't have two 2N3055 so I decide to use 2N2222 for replacement. I use transformer instead of coil.

It works, but only for 10 seconds . In that 10 second the transformer make buzzing noise and goes louder and louder and then stop. The neon light is lighten up dimly during that time.

Now I have to figure out which part is broken before I can continue. Anyone know how to find out wether the transistor is broken or not?

[Lidmotor]

CFL Table Candle -- with "Joe Tate Ambient Power Module"

One of my commentors on Youtube told me to try this Joe Tate device on my CFL project. It pulls energy from ambient RF coming from an outside long wire antenna and bumps the voltage up enough to charge a AA battery or run something really small. The commentor thought that this might run my CFL but it didn't. What it did do though, was make a charger using the energy coming off the CFL. This is something that Bodkins and I worked on way back but I never got a circuit that I was happy with. This Tate device just uses caps and diodes.
Joe Tate: Ambient Power Module

Here is my video of it working by using a coil of wire around the bulb instead of an antenna.

YouTube - CFL Table Candle with Power Module charging

Lidmotor

[Inquorate]

Flip flop ignition coil

Looks like it should work... I'd consider using Tip35c transistors as they seem less prone to 'conditioning' which makes 2n3055's turn off and on softly.

Also, ignition coils don't like being switched at too high a frequency because they have ferrite? cores, so use bigger caps or smaller resistors if that is a problem.

When I made mine, I used wire wound resistors that came in a white ceramic block. These kept getting hot, so I superglued aluminium (pie tin) 'wings' to them and they stayed cool.

Good luck with it... What we talked about should be there tomorrow.

[sucahyo]

I see, thanks .

I think this circuit bellow which utilize car coil would work too, isn't it?

[Inquorate]

Flip flop 2n3055

I made that exact circuit once in attempt to oscillate centre tapped transformer, secondary to bridge rectifier for high voltage. That's before I knew you need kilovolts to get a spark and that's when I found imhotep's videos re ignition coil.

So, the circuit works. I later stripped it for the parts, never tried to dump to a battery.

[sucahyo]

Alternative solid state idea?

I came accross multivibrator transistor at techlib.com and inspired by gmeast post at water spark plug page 71. Anyone ever use 2N3055 as flip flop and dump the waste as charger?

Will the circuit attached bellow work?

edit:
fixed the capacitor and freq calc

For car coil application, there is example of loading only one transistor where it has much lower resistor value, as long as R1*C1 = R2*C2.

[Bodkins]

I agree its a pump all bedinis are pump i said that way back but untill you see for yourself.......
One LAST thing from Me I have two BIG diodes on my coil pointing different ways going to a bulb each.
from the bulbs i can go to ground bulbs light up nothing new there!!!!!
BUT if i connect the bulbs together they light up
So that ONE WIRE LIGHTING THE BULBS
one diode going away from the coil
one diode kicking back from the coil
PUMPING AROUND
this is my last post here
Love and light to All
the fat lady is singing