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[**~Imhotep~**]

I'm very very excited about this.

But I really have no idea what I'm doing. I am a computer science guy, I put together computers... a lot, but I have no background in electronics--though I'm meaning to start.

I put together a haphazard "Imhotep" Bendini fan. Since I work at a company that's throwing away TONS of computers at the moment, there is no lack. I even got a soldering station and some various tools from the old workshops... Even sporting for a chance at a oscilloscope, but we'll see if I can squeeze that out of them.

My current setup is using a 14.4v drill battery as the source. I was going to try and convert one of the ATX Computer power supplies I have to be a "research station" ... but I just wanted to get this going as quickly as possible.

Anyway... I have a few questions after my first implementation.

• I have two sealed lead acid batteries from UPS stations. These batteries... are dead as can be. I tested the ohms and I get nothing. (Or ... uh, not 0 ohms.) I ran them on the charger for a bit, but the neon light continued to glow. Is there any chance at making these things work? If the current isn't "catching" on anything, I'm thinking it probably won't charge. Or... is there a potential to resurrect them if I leave them on there long enough?
  
• What and where do I measure to get readings to determine how efficient this thing is being? I adjusted the potentiometer until the neon glowed fairly brightly, the thing makes a screechy sound when I do, but when hooking up a battery that takes a charge, it quiets down. I want to know where to attach a multimeter to get the information I'm looking for. It'll help me show it off at work.
  
• In my reading here, I've been hearing people say that they don't know what's charging the battery? I'm curious what that means. I can get readings off of the hookups that go to the battery (and shocked myself more than a few times)... so I'm not sure what people are talking about.
  
• If I were to get a bank of conditioned ("aligned") batteries for a "larger" Bendini SSG like this, how would I hook them together so that the entire bank could charge over time?
  
• Is the original concept of this device meant to give enough back charge to the source battery to maintain a certain level of power? (In concept, it may get low but would never need charging because of it?) Would this idea also suggest that the source battery is also going through a state of conditioning as well?

I'm also curious about the ... more mystical aspects of this. There are many sources of energy and ... well, since this seems to be the forum to bring this up in, would "Radiant energy" be linked to something like "Chi", personal power, mysticism or somesuch? ... Don't get me wrong, but if the properties of Radiant energy can't be directly measured, it makes sense that a "sensitive" might be able to recognize it. I've got friends who are well practiced in this ... so I'm going to introduce it to them to see what they think as well as get my Electronics Engineer brother involved and see what he thinks about the whole thing.

Anyway, any information would help. I'm just a newb pandering with the inventive crowd.

~~
elcman

The cap pulser is John Bedinis Capacitive discharge circuit for the monopole motor. There are various schematics, but I am hesistant to post due to copyright infringements. You can see one here

Bedini_Monopole : John Bedini's Monopole

I have a flash capacitor from a disposable camera, 150k instead of 51k on the 555 and a different transistor on the front and back. Theres also a fixed voltage regulator to automatically step down the voltage for the 555 if its higher than 18 volts and an extra cap in there. It lights up a 12 volt 300ma globe constantly without pulsing, only when the load gets larger does it pulse. Charges batteries on the back end quite quickly, and they are more suited for swapping to the front end too when charged this way. The 10 watt globe is just there to show how the back end is pulsed into the battery.

High voltage is the way to go Imhotep, the standard sg circuit if built with mlj21194's should be able to handle well in excess of 100 volts input if you have nice thick connections. Have a look at the 24 volt battery swapper thread just below this one, I get heaps more speed out of that when voltage is doubled. That trifilar coil will light up the 10 watt globe on the back end with 12 volt input, unlike the fan.

really dont need schematic, this is all becoming so easy. lol
Thank you for the details, the video is amazing!! we will be simultaneously working on this process also yay! i should have more information and a video up sometime next week.

[**~Imhotep~**]

I'm very very excited about this.

But I really have no idea what I'm doing. I am a computer science guy, I put together computers... a lot, but I have no background in electronics--though I'm meaning to start.

I put together a haphazard "Imhotep" Bendini fan. Since I work at a company that's throwing away TONS of computers at the moment, there is no lack. I even got a soldering station and some various tools from the old workshops... Even sporting for a chance at a oscilloscope, but we'll see if I can squeeze that out of them.

My current setup is using a 14.4v drill battery as the source. I was going to try and convert one of the ATX Computer power supplies I have to be a "research station" ... but I just wanted to get this going as quickly as possible.

Anyway... I have a few questions after my first implementation.

• I have two sealed lead acid batteries from UPS stations. These batteries... are dead as can be. I tested the ohms and I get nothing. (Or ... uh, not 0 ohms.) I ran them on the charger for a bit, but the neon light continued to glow. Is there any chance at making these things work? If the current isn't "catching" on anything, I'm thinking it probably won't charge. Or... is there a potential to resurrect them if I leave them on there long enough?
  
• What and where do I measure to get readings to determine how efficient this thing is being? I adjusted the potentiometer until the neon glowed fairly brightly, the thing makes a screechy sound when I do, but when hooking up a battery that takes a charge, it quiets down. I want to know where to attach a multimeter to get the information I'm looking for. It'll help me show it off at work.
  
• In my reading here, I've been hearing people say that they don't know what's charging the battery? I'm curious what that means. I can get readings off of the hookups that go to the battery (and shocked myself more than a few times)... so I'm not sure what people are talking about.
  
• If I were to get a bank of conditioned ("aligned") batteries for a "larger" Bendini SSG like this, how would I hook them together so that the entire bank could charge over time?
  
• Is the original concept of this device meant to give enough back charge to the source battery to maintain a certain level of power? (In concept, it may get low but would never need charging because of it?) Would this idea also suggest that the source battery is also going through a state of conditioning as well?

I'm also curious about the ... more mystical aspects of this. There are many sources of energy and ... well, since this seems to be the forum to bring this up in, would "Radiant energy" be linked to something like "Chi", personal power, mysticism or somesuch? ... Don't get me wrong, but if the properties of Radiant energy can't be directly measured, it makes sense that a "sensitive" might be able to recognize it. I've got friends who are well practiced in this ... so I'm going to introduce it to them to see what they think as well as get my Electronics Engineer brother involved and see what he thinks about the whole thing.

Anyway, any information would help. I'm just a newb pandering with the inventive crowd.

~~
elcman

The first thing you need to make sure of is that your circuit is correct and that when you try attaching another battery the neon goes out. If it does go out then there is a possibility that the battery that you first tried does has inside physical damage more than just sulfation. In that case, there really is no way to repair it without getting inside the battery, which to my knowledge is impossible.

Ok hooking up a meter, to measure current you want to place it on the source battery, if you use the meter on 10 amp current measurement, you put it in series with the ground. In otherwords, you remove the ground wire and hook it through the meter.
To measure voltage you put it across the source battery.
To measure the output voltage you put it across the output battery, on the example of a 9volt battery, you would let it charge to possibly 10 volts. Ive done that with so far no ill effects.

What people are talking about, they dont understand what is charging the battery but it appears that coil collapse inside the motor is being utilized which is the opposite polarity sometimes 100x as strong as the input voltage being put into it. and its just that collapse voltage is being utilized which usually inhibits and makes the motor cost more to run, instead of it being wasted or inhibiting the motor from operating its being funneled off and reused. so the current draw of running the unit is being dropped and thrown back into another battery to be utilized later. YAY!

Im not really sure about the larger bendini but i would post that question in the bendini thread, there are alot of people who are very skilled that can answer that question.

Thats the ultimate goal of the bendini process, at this time, with this unit we are evaluating the charge process, people have been successful in swapping the charging source battery after they have been conditioned some are working on a switching process now. But that is our goal, that way all you need to worry about is the batteries you want charged and the fan keeps going, and going, and going, lol
share your data and dont be afraid of experimenting.

[elcman]

First round of testing.

I'm very very excited about this.

But I really have no idea what I'm doing. I am a computer science guy, I put together computers... a lot, but I have no background in electronics--though I'm meaning to start.

I put together a haphazard "Imhotep" Bendini fan. Since I work at a company that's throwing away TONS of computers at the moment, there is no lack. I even got a soldering station and some various tools from the old workshops... Even sporting for a chance at a oscilloscope, but we'll see if I can squeeze that out of them.

My current setup is using a 14.4v drill battery as the source. I was going to try and convert one of the ATX Computer power supplies I have to be a "research station" ... but I just wanted to get this going as quickly as possible.

Anyway... I have a few questions after my first implementation.

• I have two sealed lead acid batteries from UPS stations. These batteries... are dead as can be. I tested the ohms and I get nothing. (Or ... uh, not 0 ohms.) I ran them on the charger for a bit, but the neon light continued to glow. Is there any chance at making these things work? If the current isn't "catching" on anything, I'm thinking it probably won't charge. Or... is there a potential to resurrect them if I leave them on there long enough?
  
• What and where do I measure to get readings to determine how efficient this thing is being? I adjusted the potentiometer until the neon glowed fairly brightly, the thing makes a screechy sound when I do, but when hooking up a battery that takes a charge, it quiets down. I want to know where to attach a multimeter to get the information I'm looking for. It'll help me show it off at work.
  
• In my reading here, I've been hearing people say that they don't know what's charging the battery? I'm curious what that means. I can get readings off of the hookups that go to the battery (and shocked myself more than a few times)... so I'm not sure what people are talking about.
  
• If I were to get a bank of conditioned ("aligned") batteries for a "larger" Bendini SSG like this, how would I hook them together so that the entire bank could charge over time?
  
• Is the original concept of this device meant to give enough back charge to the source battery to maintain a certain level of power? (In concept, it may get low but would never need charging because of it?) Would this idea also suggest that the source battery is also going through a state of conditioning as well?

I'm also curious about the ... more mystical aspects of this. There are many sources of energy and ... well, since this seems to be the forum to bring this up in, would "Radiant energy" be linked to something like "Chi", personal power, mysticism or somesuch? ... Don't get me wrong, but if the properties of Radiant energy can't be directly measured, it makes sense that a "sensitive" might be able to recognize it. I've got friends who are well practiced in this ... so I'm going to introduce it to them to see what they think as well as get my Electronics Engineer brother involved and see what he thinks about the whole thing.

Anyway, any information would help. I'm just a newb pandering with the inventive crowd.

~~
elcman

[ren]

The cap pulser is John Bedinis Capacitive discharge circuit for the monopole motor. There are various schematics, but I am hesistant to post due to copyright infringements. You can see one here

Bedini_Monopole : John Bedini's Monopole

I have a flash capacitor from a disposable camera, 150k instead of 51k on the 555 and a different transistor on the front and back. Theres also a fixed voltage regulator to automatically step down the voltage for the 555 if its higher than 18 volts and an extra cap in there. It lights up a 12 volt 300ma globe constantly without pulsing, only when the load gets larger does it pulse. Charges batteries on the back end quite quickly, and they are more suited for swapping to the front end too when charged this way. The 10 watt globe is just there to show how the back end is pulsed into the battery.

High voltage is the way to go Imhotep, the standard sg circuit if built with mlj21194's should be able to handle well in excess of 100 volts input if you have nice thick connections. Have a look at the 24 volt battery swapper thread just below this one, I get heaps more speed out of that when voltage is doubled. That trifilar coil will light up the 10 watt globe on the back end with 12 volt input, unlike the fan.

[**~Imhotep~**]

YouTube - Bedini computer fan cap pulser with 10 watt globe on the output

EXCELLENT!!

Its takes another step forward. Please share details. 10 watts!!! yay!! great start!!!

we are working on the same thing mechanically without the fan tho. We havent released any information with it because we arent done with it yet. We are upping the voltage, we are running 110 volts pulsed, simliar to E.V grays mechanical low voltage side. yay!
it is a replication of mallorys vibrator with step up transformers, no electronics, we put a cap 5uf in series with load and it smoothed out the pulses so the light was continous. it was 250 volt. im still working on the video now for youtube. This is exciting to see how fast it is growing.

[ren]

YouTube - Bedini computer fan cap pulser with 10 watt globe on the output

[**~Imhotep~**]

I have experienced different voltages with different fans, when i did the cap discharge experiment i had 3 fans paralleled and i was using 13 volts as the source. and it was a 13volt power supply. it rose over 120 volts and i stopped it and then discharged it through 2 10awg house wires.
And i did that strictly for effect to show that these can get up to dangerous voltages and for everyone to please be careful. Have fun experimenting

[Bodkins]

Been charging one cap on to 9v.
the 9v started at 7.89v rose to 8.05v.
the cap had 30volt in it all the time.
the thing is i stop the charging when i check the primary battery which red somethin like 4.70.
I just tuck the primary off and left the charging on and check it after 5mins 8.07v the cap has 27v in it.
tryed charging two 200v 470uf they never got over 35v in each.
playing is with this stuff is fun

[**~Imhotep~**]

Are you looking at somthing on the lines of a tesla switch?
Three motor and three relay switchs swapping batterys.
I think that if someone could swap the battery after ever cycle it would end up with great results just with a standed bedini setup!
Go one step on form that and parallel and serial the batterys.
Would this workk? Im new to this so someone may have try it already.
Getting great result form the Fan using 9v into 200v cap than on to another 9v charging nicely.
will set up a bigger one next week with my oscilloscope and see what going on in there.(where do i conect it? just got it)
also got a rf meter coming will that read anythin?

Take Care
Bodkins
Lets Make it Happen Folks

all of my testing on de-sulfation of larger batts has been done with a power supply var 0-36 volts. i am evaluating circuit for expansion and have had good results and im sure with a little work this could possibly do battery swapping .if you get good results on battery swapping please share result with everyone in forum. this forum has a great amount of very talented members who helped me. and have shared their results.
my projects main focus is to help verify bendini's work and it appears he was absolutely correct in his research so far
.i have also ran unit on 9 volt battery worked good . when i first took a throw away 9 volt carbon zinc battery that was not able to run anything and you are not suppose to be able to charge and it took a charge nicely and was useful i was convinced i would test this circuit more.

i have not tried running through cap then battery ,that is interesting, did you monitor the caps charge voltage or monitor the battery source and charge battery voltage ?
i have ran off pwr supp at 12volt and charged 3- 9v batteries (batteries in series which came to 27 volts output and they charged good ) the output seems to mirror the volts they are discharged down to ,then voltage goes higher as they charge ,i let them go over their combined voltage by a few volts then i disconnect and test their capacity which is good .
i have charged batteries in parallel and parallel -series combo all charged good
once charged real old carbon zinc that was all leaky and it would not improve
but i did not expect it to but tried any way.

themart (other forum member -great guy)has hooked up scope between charge battery ground and collector of transistor and monitored spikes. looked great. he said they were over 100 volts.
rf meter will be interesting ,please share result

happy experimenting

[Bodkins]

you can hookup caps directly (it charges them fast be careful) i used large 680 microfarad 250 volt, three fans in parallel output,or one doesn't matter.

you can also hookup batteries directly of any voltage size, i have mixed different voltage batteries with no problem , monitor volts and be careful.

as far as pulse charge have not tried ,but have been working on different pulse charger (very interesting arrangement will disclose shortly ,runs 110 or higher resistive loads directly ,all mech. no chips or transistor,not complete on secondary side of tube yet.

others in forum have 555 pulse project complete with computer fan i did not see schematic details should be further back in thread tho. happy experimenting

Are you looking at somthing on the lines of a tesla switch?
Three motor and three relay switchs swapping batterys.
I think that if someone could swap the battery after ever cycle it would end up with great results just with a standed bedini setup!
Go one step on form that and parallel and serial the batterys.
Would this workk? Im new to this so someone may have try it already.
Getting great result form the Fan using 9v into 200v cap than on to another 9v charging nicely.
will set up a bigger one next week with my oscilloscope and see what going on in there.(where do i conect it? just got it)
also got a rf meter coming will that read anythin?

Take Care
Bodkins
Lets Make it Happen Folks

[**~Imhotep~**]

if you look at all electronic circuits with coils there will be a MOV ( metal oxide varistor )on ac circuits and a diode on dc circuits this is a protection device that prevents the coil colapse from damaging the source supply or driver circuits .
that is a well documented fact .
what the master bendini has done is tame that back rush and divert it for a productive use .
what i have done is adapt that effect with off the shelf products that anyone can get easily to see this effect and or use for all our benifit.
the nuts and bolts of the process is being analized by every one so please as you build and test share your findings with all of us .
the back emf is explained in a great dvd called motor secrets by DR lindemann .
happy experimenting

[Pcurrius]

[**~Imhotep~**]

the reason that i have found that the charge battery doesn't burn is because this process is a cold charge.
what i mean by cold charge is conventional charge, pumps larger current charge into the battery it heats up the battery ,this unit puts high voltage
low current so it is cold .
it appears that the batteries absorb the high voltage spikes easily and still charges up . hope this helps

i always monitor the voltage on the charge battery with a very expensive true rms volt meter to be safe it shows voltage spikes numericly without use of scope, the scope gives a better visual display of the spikes (thank you
themart ) you can use any meter to see some voltage tho.
happy experimening

[theremart]

Protecting your transistor...

Hi,

Welcome to the group.

You are asking the same questions that we have, and are asking... Which is great.

From my probe I put one on the case of the transistor, and the ground to the primary battery negative. Yesterday I hooked up my ssg with the fan with the fins cut off with a supply of 13V I was getting over 100V spikes, very faint on my scope but were there.

A good place to start with this project is to look at the datasheet of the transistor you intend to use. Found out the max voltage the transistor can take. ( I often do this the hard way ) But a good rule of thumb is to combine all the voltages going to the transistor and total them up, so if you are charging 12V to 12V you have 24V on transistor approx...

For your transistor, protection you can try different things as I have but realize replacing transistors can get expensive.

I use a 1K pot myself, and I think there is good reason to use a lower ohm pot with a 2W capacity, once you find the sweet spot with the 1K, put in a resistor and a smaller pot because it makes it much easier to tune.

I suggest you check out the ways people have used capacitors on youtube with the SSG, and look at the schematics here, some very good ways to learn is to look at what others have done.

Peace

[Pcurrius]