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  • elias
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    The Stator

    Hi,

    I tried disassembling the stator, but no matter how much I tried no luck! I think that I even damaged the windings, so I need to also rewind some of the windings too. Is there any easy way to get it off?

    Elias

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  • **~Imhotep~**
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    Originally posted by theremart View Post
    Today scope is operational! !!!!!

    Attached is a picture of the fan and settings.
    looks like you have it set to channel b. Is that correct, and the division is on 1 volt per division dc, and the sweep is set to 1 or 2 millisecond. Its hard for me to tell from the angle but it might be my eyes..lol.


    Looks like EXCELLENt spikes. YAY!!!

    now everyone can hook the scopes up to the fans and see them. Is it the fan that you altered with super high rpm.

    What is the total spike voltage? Its kinda hard for me to tell but it looks large!

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  • tbest
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    Originally posted by theremart View Post
    Can you tell me how many amp hours is your battery? I am curious what size of battery you have. Congrates on getting this going.

    Thanks!

    mart
    YUASA - Type 12-12
    12V 12Ah sealed lead-acid
    Tomorrow measure engine on the scope.
    Engine torque is weak, but the burden charged more.
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    Honda ANF125
    Last edited by tbest; 02-07-2011, 09:52 AM.

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  • theremart
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    Wave form... from the SSG fan.

    Today scope is operational! !!!!!

    Attached is a picture of the fan and settings.
    Attached Files

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  • theremart
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    Re: up and running.

    Originally posted by tbest View Post
    Wound 200 winds per cole 0.3Cu cw-ccw-cw-ccw.
    Run battery 12.30V
    Charge battery 10.01V
    After 30 minutes:
    Run battery 12.27V
    Charge battery 10.73V
    A few pictures.
    Can you tell me how many amp hours is your battery? I am curious what size of battery you have. Congrates on getting this going.

    Thanks!

    mart

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  • tbest
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    Originally posted by **~Imhotep~** View Post
    you are very welcome, please share all new knowledge with everyone ,it feels so good taking charge of your your own power needs destiny .yea!!!!
    Wound 200 winds per cole 0.3Cu cw-ccw-cw-ccw.
    Run battery 12.30V
    Charge battery 10.01V
    After 30 minutes:
    Run battery 12.27V
    Charge battery 10.73V
    A few pictures.
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    Ford Cologne V6 engine history
    Attached Files
    Last edited by tbest; 02-07-2011, 09:52 AM.

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  • **~Imhotep~**
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    Originally posted by tbest View Post
    ** ~Imhotep ~ ** , thanks, thanks, thanks! Running!
    I've used diodes 1N4OO7 & cw-ccw-cw-ccw winding.
    After 30-minutes:
    Run battery -0.03V,
    Charging the battery +0.72 V!
    When disconnect the battery charge, bulb glow.
    Thank you ** ~ ~ Imhotep **. My happy day!
    Tomas
    you are very welcome, please share all new knowledge with everyone ,it feels so good taking charge of your your own power needs destiny .yea!!!!

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  • tbest
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    ** ~Imhotep ~ ** , thanks, thanks, thanks! Running!
    I've used diodes 1N4OO7 & cw-ccw-cw-ccw winding.
    After 30-minutes:
    Run battery -0.03V,
    Charging the battery +0.72 V!
    When disconnect the battery charge, bulb glow.
    Thank you ** ~ ~ Imhotep **. My happy day!
    Tomas
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    Ferrari Ascari
    Last edited by tbest; 02-07-2011, 09:52 AM.

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  • **~Imhotep~**
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    Originally posted by theremart View Post
    Well last nite I took the fan that did not work and cut off all the fins of the fan, and decided to test out some of my rare earth n50 motor magnets on the fan. It is now spinning at 4100 RPM. And charging very well. However it does pull alot from the primary battery.


    I did break out on the fan that I modified normally to try adding relays to the trigger coil. After I added 4 relays the power draw went down to 100 - 150 millaamps with RPS of 3200 - 3600 RPMs. It did not seem to have the charging power, but at this rate I could run the fan at a much longer duration.

    I was thinking instead of using relay coils I might try transformer, to see if the gauge of the wire is a factor in the lower draw of the SSG... My theory is the smaller gauge wire is a factor.
    WOW THATS BEING INNOVATIVE i also took one that i smashed the shroud on and took fat house wiring and spun it into a flat tesla pancake coil for a stand and soldered it to an old stripped circuit board off one of the many i have replicated ,it has large coils so i wanted to salvage it. its a little dangerous because of exposed blades .so now that you have tried that successfully, i might break off the blades and increase the rpms and charge rate (excellent solutions). yea also i have ran one successfully on cheep 5 watt harbour freight solar cell TOTAL FREE ENERGY CHARGE (except for 39 dollar solar panel)
    Last edited by **~Imhotep~**; 05-27-2008, 07:41 PM.

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  • theremart
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    Different configs with the fans...

    Well last nite I took the fan that did not work and cut off all the fins of the fan, and decided to test out some of my rare earth n50 motor magnets on the fan. It is now spinning at 4100 RPM. And charging very well. However it does pull alot from the primary battery.


    I did break out on the fan that I modified normally to try adding relays to the trigger coil. After I added 4 relays the power draw went down to 100 - 150 millaamps with RPS of 3200 - 3600 RPMs. It did not seem to have the charging power, but at this rate I could run the fan at a much longer duration.

    I was thinking instead of using relay coils I might try transformer, to see if the gauge of the wire is a factor in the lower draw of the SSG... My theory is the smaller gauge wire is a factor.

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  • InTheField
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    I was going to order some of the NewEgg $1.29 fans today... I was talking with one of the techs here at work about it and he said, "I'm taking apart the old computing array and we already have a dozen fans that we're going to toss. You want 'em?" Ummmmm... Hell YEAH!

    I have 4-5 different types of fans to mess with to see how they're wound...

    I had two this past weekend that were the same make, model, everything, but one was wound differently from the other... Only one of them would spin up. The one that worked has the connected pos and neg windings on adjacent coils. The one that didn't work has the connected pos and neg windings on the coils directly across from each other. Interesting...

    ITF

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  • **~Imhotep~**
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    Originally posted by Sephiroth View Post
    hmmm.... i was worried about that... any links to where I can roughly see the coil configuration?
    here is jpg
    every one i have encountered is cw ccw cw ccw this is dc brushless design -ac is opposite coil outside rotor magnets inside after modding, again tough mod much skills req. most people will want to stick to dc brushless design with existing coils but will work on ac motors and dc brushless.
    Last edited by **~Imhotep~**; 05-27-2008, 02:57 PM.

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  • tbest
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    Originally posted by **~Imhotep~** View Post
    every fan i have wound has been cw bifiler (two wires together),then ccw bifiler, then cw bifiler, then ccw bifiler (cw =clockwise ccw=counter clockwise) all have worked ,have used large wire 40 winds per pole and small wire.60-80 winds per core, the larger wire required more source voltage 24-36 volts dc hope this helps but remember computer repair shops will some times give you old bad power suppies with fans in them, you can get these fans every where but if you want to rewind cw,ccw cw,ccw, -two wires at the same time will work in most cases. enjoy good luck and dont give up
    Thank you. Rewind this evening. I have a motor with a diameter of 42 mm anchors, so much wire ...
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    X-90
    Last edited by tbest; 02-07-2011, 09:52 AM.

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  • tbest
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    Originally posted by Sephiroth View Post
    hmmm.... i was worried about that... any links to where I can roughly see the coil configuration?
    No, I dont have any link, my original fan was winding under the third picture from left, but damaged. I tried the second and third type of winding. Perhaps it is to be the last type?
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    William Clay Ford, Sr. picture
    Last edited by tbest; 02-07-2011, 09:51 AM.

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  • **~Imhotep~**
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    Originally posted by tbest View Post
    Hi ** ~ ~ Imhotep **.
    Thanks for this thread and sharing. I am new, but long time reading this forum.
    The PC fan: I found a few fan, and all were wound alternately: clockwise and counterclockwise direction, each anchor opposite direction. I have damaged the original winding, so I have to make new ones. The first attempt - everything winding clockwise (fan1.jpg) - does not work. Winding has 7 Ohm, wire 0.3 mm, 200 turns on the anchor.
    Picture: fan2.jpg - does not work.
    Does someone similar experience?
    Even try new winding, weaker wire with greater resistance and alternately clockwise and counterclockwise direction (as fan3.jpg), maybe this will help.
    What method of winding recommend?
    I'm sorry for my bad English.
    Thank you, Tomas
    every fan i have wound has been cw bifiler (two wires together),then ccw bifiler, then cw bifiler, then ccw bifiler (cw =clockwise ccw=counter clockwise) all have worked ,have used large wire 40 winds per pole and small wire.60-80 winds per core, the larger wire required more source voltage 24-36 volts dc hope this helps but remember computer repair shops will some times give you old bad power suppies with fans in them, you can get these fans every where but if you want to rewind cw,ccw cw,ccw, -two wires at the same time will work in most cases. enjoy good luck and dont give up

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