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  • SkyWatcher
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    Hi all, Hi bromikey, thanks for the links, will be getting something like that at some point.
    Hi alexelectric, thanks for the positive words, doing my best with what is available to me.

    Started using 24 volt input and had some problems with the aluminum tape holding properly on one of the shaft spacers.
    Though a switch to 1/2" diameter shaft will fix all of that.

    For now, decided to set aside the two pillow block bearings and threaded rod shaft and went directly off the double drill chuck motor adapter.
    It almost looks like the rotor is rotating faster at 24 volts, then when it was 3000 rpm on the drill press motor.
    Maybe just illusion, will check with meter to be sure of rpm.
    One thing is noticeable though, the amp draw is much lower without the drag of the 2 pillow block bearings, more than 1 amp less on 12 volts and probably more when using 24 volts input.
    At 12 volts input, it was 1.75 amps with the pillow block bearings and no coil/cores.
    And at 24 volts input, it is .7 amps directly off the drill chuck adapter, so probably half that amp input on 12 volts.

    So, will be testing this way for now and can always build a plate to mount more coil/cores.
    At 25 strands on the 30awg. coil/core, it is close to lenz neutral, will be adding some more strands in series to find the neutral point and then see what the output is and what loads it can power.
    Then will test the large coil and see if that is anywhere near lenz neutral, with the seemingly higher rpm rotor.
    peace love light
    Last edited by SkyWatcher; 07-27-2019, 05:15 AM.

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  • alexelectric
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    Originally posted by SkyWatcher View Post
    Hi all, Hi bromikey, thanks for sharing the cool videos.
    Liking his bailing wire u-cores, will be thinking about that.

    Mounted the magnet rotor, though had to use wood rotor support guides, to keep the rotor parallel to the shaft.
    Shaft flutters slightly, needs to be probably 1/2" at least, or move bearings in closer, though should still work fine.
    peace love light

    Here is latest video.
    https://youtu.be/OwyVjeSEdx0
    regards SkyWatcher
    what a good project you are doing, surely you will achieve your goal, interestingly show your progress, and move forward with the comments of the most experienced colleagues, congratulations

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  • BroMikey
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    This one is around the same price and has a fan for the bigger
    jobs but if you run this 900w booster at 100-200 watts it will have
    a higher efficiency than the small popcorn peanut boosters for
    a couple $3 dollars

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/900W-Digita....c100005.m1851

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  • BroMikey
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    Originally posted by SkyWatcher View Post
    Hi bromikey, thanks for the positive words and good tips.
    Fried my boost converter on another project, will have to order another one.
    Yes, barrier will be in place when coil/cores are ready to be tested.
    peace love light
    You are welcome kind Sir, here is the one to buy. It will not
    blow up at 5-7 amps but I wouldn't go any higher. china ratings are
    inaccurate. This is the one I use and it works for the 3 battery Gen. $22
    Good for hard starts.


    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Numerical-control-digital-display-DC-DC-DC-step-up-420W-constant-pressure-consta/162412821347?_trkparms=aid%3D333200%26algo%3DCOMP. MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D59178%26meid%3D10b10b913dca4a da8fb5b821ff47106f%26pid%3D100008%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3 D12%26sd%3D202533914425%26itm%3D162412821347%26pg% 3D2047675&_trksid=p2047675.c100008.m2219
    Last edited by BroMikey; 07-27-2019, 02:18 AM.

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  • SkyWatcher
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    Hi bromikey, thanks for the positive words and good tips.
    Fried my boost converter on another project, will have to order another one.
    Yes, barrier will be in place when coil/cores are ready to be tested.
    peace love light

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  • BroMikey
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    Originally posted by SkyWatcher View Post
    Hi all, Hi bromikey, thanks for sharing the cool videos.
    Liking his bailing wire u-cores, will be thinking about that.

    Mounted the magnet rotor, though had to use wood rotor support guides, to keep the rotor parallel to the shaft.
    Shaft flutters slightly, needs to be probably 1/2" at least, or move bearings in closer, though should still work fine.
    peace love light

    Here is latest video.
    https://youtu.be/OwyVjeSEdx0
    Nice work Sky, now you got a good one. A booster can raise the rpm's
    and I am sure you know that when you need a few more R's. Seems
    very smooth and don't assume the magnets are going to stay in their
    hole. Barrier plz

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  • SkyWatcher
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    Hi all, Hi bromikey, thanks for sharing the cool videos.
    Liking his bailing wire u-cores, will be thinking about that.

    Mounted the magnet rotor, though had to use wood rotor support guides, to keep the rotor parallel to the shaft.
    Shaft flutters slightly, needs to be probably 1/2" at least, or move bearings in closer, though should still work fine.
    peace love light

    Here is latest video.
    https://youtu.be/OwyVjeSEdx0

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  • BroMikey
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    Super Coils Lenz free bi Toroid style Horseshoe.

    [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTFLncHB6u0[/VIDEO]

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  • BroMikey
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    Originally posted by Turion
    What would be the BEST generator coil to use on a Low magnetic drag generator?

    How about one of Thane's coils on a transformer body. What do I mean by that?
    Right hand rule, left hand rule "C" CORES Over-unity.

    [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJl0TO_aR6M[/VIDEO]

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  • SkyWatcher
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    Hi all, the updated project using the scooter motor is going well.
    Had to use aluminum tape between the spacer and the shaft, as there is a small gap.
    Without the tape, it caused the shaft to be skewed when using nuts to secure the spacer to the shaft.

    Next step is to mount the rotor and see how smooth it runs.

    Here is a video of it running so far.
    peace love light

    https://youtu.be/Z-Qy3jrdShk

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  • SkyWatcher
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    Hi all, here is the progress on the updated project.
    Will be placing the rotor on next and seeing how it runs.
    peace love light

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  • BroMikey
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    Originally posted by SkyWatcher View Post
    ...... the double drill chuck adapter and man, it runs so smooth with the scooter motor.

    Will be using 2 pillow block bearings,


    Here is the early Thane video of his work using multi-filament coils
    to speed up the rotor. The explanation is also good. Look at the size of
    his coil there. Huge

    Shaft to shaft I started out with a rubber hose with 2 clamps. This is
    known as a RAG JOINT like on the steering wheel of your car or the
    GE washing machines used to connect motor to pump.

    The cheap easy way is a piece of strong hose then stagger the clamps
    to balance the weight. The rotor has 2 bearings and the motor has
    2 bearing so all you need is a RAG JOINT to couple them. One time I
    needed a strong hose so I used a section of steel braided Hydraulic
    hose.

    Yours is far better.



    [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh8xbyxAhMA&list=UU6ZPiUObgaWAyeV3SmUH3mg& index=16[/VIDEO]
    Last edited by BroMikey; 07-22-2019, 03:52 AM.

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  • SkyWatcher
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    Hi turion, thanks, it is a MY6812B motor.
    It looks like it is rated 24 volts, 2500 rpm, 100 watts.
    Will definitely need some ( turion magnet neutralization method ) on board.
    peace love light

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  • SkyWatcher
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    Hi all, was out getting parts today, for the updated project.
    Also picked up a nice workbench from harbor freight, since unfortunately, the shed workshop is taking on water again and will only be used for cutting and making parts, until that can be fixed.
    So the workshop is in the garage now.

    Temporarily mounted the 8 magnet rotor to the double drill chuck adapter and man, it runs so smooth with the scooter motor.

    Will be using 2 pillow block bearings, raised up with hard wood mounts, same with the motor.
    Motor will be secured to hard wood mounts with large steel hose clamps.
    Very similar layout as turions setups.
    Hope to get working on it soon.
    peace love light

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  • BroMikey
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    Originally posted by Turion
    The very FIRST video I ever made and posted of the FIRST version of this generator was run by a razor scooter motor on 12 volts and could only run with TWO coils because of magnetic drag. I showed a light plugged into the wall running on 1.5 amps at 120 volts. Then I show that SAME light running on my generator outputting a bit over 120 volts at 1.5 amps off a single coil. I show the rpm of the motor and then short out the second coil and show the rpm of the motor going up. That was like ten years ago. I still have that video somewhere because I reposted it a year or so ago.
    Okay I got it Dave 180w on this first one using a 300w bulb
    (so she don't blow) Of course you have never heard of an amp meter
    or maybe your Chinese volt-meter is reading 50 points higher? You can't
    be as stupid as being suggested here, can you? Hum... Maybe Dragon
    and Bi should go away together and rehearse the joys of delusional
    godhood. That dern high mind is at it again.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOYfCd185u4

    Anyway back to the data. 180w for a first coil is not bad, I trust that
    this is correct. Why wouldn't I? Repeats are a pain in the butt for these
    guru's, keep it up, maybe someone will disprove it all if they ever
    get off their perch.

    I got it even if no one else does. Volts same and power output varies
    with rotor size and magnet size or numbers of magnets. Thx 4 the rotor
    vid.
    Last edited by BroMikey; 07-20-2019, 02:43 AM.

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