Multifilar Generator Coil - Lenz delay Experiments

[BroMikey]

You have the same as Turion now, should be getting big power out
of so many coils, big money machine. Let's hope Dave chines in and
makes sure you don't miss something. You are taking away any
excuse like, "he can't afford to build with the big boys" or that for
some reason "he won't follow direction exactly"

Humm...??

No more excuses.
Right Bi, you are going to except the results?
Can't have it both ways now, bidirectional is out.

I like your winder Alex you did a nice job, only 9 more to go

[alexelectric]

contruccion de la bobina de turion

then go to the construction of the major coil, where first place all the reels in two sections of 6, to be able to manipulate them better
but first mark each thread at the beginning with tape, and also finish it since they had each one, which made it easier for me to verify each thread afterwards

[alexelectric]

construction of the turion coil

Hello greetings
I started the construction of the coil proposed by turion
12 threads 253 23
The first challenge was how I made the count of each coil.
the first was by manual counting, then I put the reel in a winding machine that I built, and I passed the wire to a new reel, and so I knew how many laps each reel had to have
I show you the photos

[bistander]

Mag field measurements

Thisis what I use:

https://www.amazon.com/Professional-Datalogger-Industrial-Appliances-inspections/dp/B01HQBRZ9O/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?keywords=gauss+meter&qid=1564662349&s=gateway&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&smid=A17YV0793ULSSE&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzMDlGSjhJS1NLRlpEJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMDg0MDQwQThUQzRQV0xMUFhNJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTA0Nzk1NDZKWEtHUEhSQkk4WTImd2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGYmYWN0aW9uPWNsaWNrUmVkaXJlY3QmZG9Ob3RMb2dDbGljaz10cnVl

But here's cheaper one:

https://www.amazon.com/MAC-DET-Magnetism-Detector/dp/B00E0LGAQ8/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=gauss+meter&qid=1564662508&s=gateway&sr=8-5

If your fields are off the meter, and you are trying to do a comparison, simply move the meter back the same distance for both tests.

I have loaded an app on my smart phone for that. Free. Looks like it works. I have not done any quantitative analysis so can't speak of its accuracy. SMF APPS GbR.

Regards,

bi

[BroMikey]

Practical magnet measuring and talk about repulsion being weaker
than attraction forces

[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgArHxfJPjM[/VIDEO]

[BroMikey]

bi,
Nit picking once again. Always attacking the little things.


Maybe you should check out the specs for the Model # ND039-3 which is the 1/2" x 3" magnet or the Model # ND049-3, which is the 3/4" x 3" magnet, or the Model # ND064-1 which is the 1" x 3" magnet on that same web site you just quoted. Just a moment... They are not the only web site with these numbers, but they have some of the best prices. DO you ever even LOOK at this stuff or do you just assume you know everything about everything?

The pull strength is the highest possible holding power of a magnet, measured in kilograms. It is the force required to prise a magnet away from a flat steel surface when the magnet and metal have full and direct surface-to-surface contact.

This is referred to as the surface field and is measured in Gauss (or Tesla). Pull Force Testers are used to test the holding force of a magnet that is in contact with a flat steel plate. Pull forces are measured in pounds (or kilograms).

https://www.kjmagnetics.com/images/case1.case2.case3.gif

[bistander]

Confirmation

The pulling forces are listed on the specs page for each magnet on the web site where I buy them. I am giving you their numbers, not mine.

Ever consider a misprint or error? Or maybe your source defined pull force differently. Like :"Pull Force is the amount of force required to separate 2 of the same size magnets from each other." Which doesn't seem to apply. Oh well.

I strongly suggest the reader research and verify any information posted on this thread before investing money or effort to related experiment.

Magnet quote from: https://www.magnet4less.com/faq.php?cID=1

Regards,

bi

[bistander]

Question

Magnets
1/2" x 3" 65 lbs pulling force
1" by 3" 300 pounds pulling force.
Notice the difference?
...

Hi Turion,

Can you show where or how you determined these forces? Using a pretty reliable on-line calculator, I get different numbers.

https://www.kjmagnetics.com/calculator.asp

Regards,

bi

[Quantum_well]

Clearance

You've got it,except for probably salient pole and reluctance types,keep as tight as possible.
Xavier.

[lotec]

Dropoff from a dipole follows an inverse cube.

Things are more unforgiving than I thought, all the more need for good craftmanship and tight tolerances.

[lotec]

Hi all, Hi bromikey, the 51 strands in series at 3450 rpm, need to hook up the motor pulse controller to slow it down, probably doesn't need to be that fast.
Yes you're probably right about the wire gauge, haven't had any luck yet with led bulbs, they all slow the magnet rotor down.

Hi lotec, yes, 24 volts or so at .75 amps with one core/coil in place, 1/16" magnet to core gap, without any magnet neutralization yet.
The core protrudes an inch from the coil bobbin and the bobbin has 1/4" thick wood, so 1-1/4" of core before the coil.
Yes, that was the idea, extend the core to enhance delay and it did work, because without it in the original project with the small rotor, it did not speed up without the extension.
peace love light

Thanks for the extra details SkyWatcher, You do good work

Cheers

[BroMikey]

80lbs
https://www.magnet4sale.com/n52-neod...rical-magnets/


1/16" thick shield will not allow the magnet to be pulled back out
of it's socket without a special tool. The pattern shows a better usage
for flux plus will keep overlap down to a minimum for crammed rotors.

56lbs
Just a moment...

[BroMikey]

Sky the null is reached with ever so slightly some relief on the drive
motor using 2850 feet of wire.

Magnetic flux and gap is to small if after 2800 feet you are only getting
a slight speed up. This is where I closed the gap on my 50 lb magnet
and went from 40ma drive reduction to a 400 ma drive
reduction.

If the gap is tight we can only conclude that the magnets are to weak.
Also remember I have only experimented with MY rotor and MY number
and strength of magnets, so keep at it, so more data can be recorded for
your system

Weak magnets have been so much on my mind that I am prepared to
change these out for the little bit bigger physical size I have in the
small rotor that are 9lb and put the 47lb magnets and shields in place
of those.

Especially when i consider that 50lb vs 10lb magnets will make no
difference on drive input.

[BroMikey]

I know your are just getting started, good work. Thanks also for the
clarification of the higher and lower Rpm's used at selected voltages.


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[SkyWatcher]

Hi all, Hi bromikey, the 51 strands in series at 3450 rpm, need to hook up the motor pulse controller to slow it down, probably doesn't need to be that fast.
Yes you're probably right about the wire gauge, haven't had any luck yet with led bulbs, they all slow the magnet rotor down.

Hi lotec, yes, 24 volts or so at .75 amps with one core/coil in place, 1/16" magnet to core gap, without any magnet neutralization yet.
The core protrudes an inch from the coil bobbin and the bobbin has 1/4" thick wood, so 1-1/4" of core before the coil.
Yes, that was the idea, extend the core to enhance delay and it did work, because without it in the original project with the small rotor, it did not speed up without the extension.
peace love light