Multifilar Generator Coil - Lenz delay Experiments

[bistander]

Suggestion

Hi all, hmm, not sure what to make of this, checked the input amperage with the killiwatt meter with the magnet attraction neutralization in place and without, it seemed to make no difference, according to the meter.
Each test started at around 2.55 amps input, then dropped to 1.54 amps for each at steady state.
Any thoughts appreciated on these observations.
peace love light

OK, good job. Would like to know the real power (watts) as well as current. I think to figure out the meaning of the results you need the baseline, that is current (and watts) for the rotor alone, without the the core in place and without the stationary neutralizing magnet in place.

Regards,

bi

[SkyWatcher]

Hi all, hmm, not sure what to make of this, checked the input amperage with the killiwatt meter with the magnet attraction neutralization in place and without, it seemed to make no difference, according to the meter.
Each test started at around 2.55 amps input, then dropped to 1.54 amps for each at steady state.
Any thoughts appreciated on these observations.
peace love light

[alexelectric]

Just out of curiosity, if the attraction of the core is offset by the repulsion of the magnet when there is no coil or load, what happens when a coil is in place producing an electrical output which would cause the core to also become repulsive as the magnet enters proximity of the coil? Wouldn't this simply make the input work harder dealing with now 2 repulsive forces?

It seems to me that the "speed up under load" occurs because the speed of the rotor, the attraction to the core and the repulsion caused by Lenz are matched or reasonably balanced.

this idea, of the accretion of the nucleus with the repulsion with a magnet, and if so, the accretion would be compensated with a coil that is activated at the right moment, with this proposal I have worked with the bedini coil, the magnet is attracted and he refuses when he goes out,
is one more way to beat the exit attraction

[BroMikey]

Oh those one's. yeah I have some 3000 watt generator heads
from off of those cheap craftsmen gas jobs on the floor over
here and that is their approx size. Of course the coils are only
a fraction of the length of these designs. You can't get 3000watts
for long either they are a 2000 watt head mounted on a small gasoline
engine. About the same size as a motor rated at 2000 watts is also
that big. Compact throw away junk. 3600rpm's under a load of
2000watts won't go very many hours before it pops.

[BroMikey]

Bro,
Best check your numbers. And where did you get them anyway? Did you finally get yours built?

Just an approx size without the drive motor, just the head. Was I
close? Judging from the pictures you have posted.


[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BlPxQeKfO0[/VIDEO]

[SkyWatcher]

Hi all, tomorrow, will hook up the killiwatt meter to the drill press motor and check the full speed wattage draw with just the core in place.
Then, will move the neutralization device into position and see what the difference is at full rotor speed.
Hi dragon, bromikey explained it.
peace love light

[BroMikey]

These coils are storage devices that if wound right at the right rpm
delay their energy release til TDC which stands for Top Dead Center

Some builders refer to these coils as DELAYED LENZ other say LENZ FREE
call them whatever name you so chose. The same coil we wind can be
made to operate to drag the drive motor down by connecting all of the
many strands in parallel. This method is used for the engineering of
generator coils today being a cost effective saving of copper wire 5X
or greater, weight per current handling.

A conventional generator head producing at 2000 watt has a
physical dimension of approx 6" X 6" X 6"

A generator head like we are building the same 2000 watts requires
more space at 12" X 14" X 14" approx.

@ Bi https://media.tenor.com/images/2365797dff5e7624ae8332e977d270fc/tenor.gif

[dragon]

Hi all, Hi bromikey, thanks for the positive reply.
Yes, it seems it should burden the motor much less.
Think you are right, those that are meant to awake, are and will do so.

Hi turion, thanks for replying and the positive, helpful words.
I researched the baking soda/super glue method, wow, that method seems to greatly increase strength of bond and drying time.
Thanks for sharing that, why I have not known about this glue method until now, is a mystery to me.

Went out to the workshop today for a bit, wanted to try and tweak the permanent magnet attraction to core some more and succeeded.
Added another one of those 1/8" thick x 1" diameter neo magnets and stacked it to the other one.
Had to back it away a little from the rotor and rotate the magnet bar until the sweet spot was found.
It now takes even less force to rotate the magnet rotor than before, would say at least 95% of the force normally required to remove the rotor magnet from the core has been neutralized.
Think this method is superior to the odd-even, 7 magnet rotor and 8 stator method, as bill muller used.
As this is a passive method and requires no extra power input to achieve.
peace love light

Just out of curiosity, if the attraction of the core is offset by the repulsion of the magnet when there is no coil or load, what happens when a coil is in place producing an electrical output which would cause the core to also become repulsive as the magnet enters proximity of the coil? Wouldn't this simply make the input work harder dealing with now 2 repulsive forces?

It seems to me that the "speed up under load" occurs because the speed of the rotor, the attraction to the core and the repulsion caused by Lenz are matched or reasonably balanced.

[SkyWatcher]

Hi all, Hi bromikey, thanks for the positive reply.
Yes, it seems it should burden the motor much less.
Think you are right, those that are meant to awake, are and will do so.

Hi turion, thanks for replying and the positive, helpful words.
I researched the baking soda/super glue method, wow, that method seems to greatly increase strength of bond and drying time.
Thanks for sharing that, why I have not known about this glue method until now, is a mystery to me.

Went out to the workshop today for a bit, wanted to try and tweak the permanent magnet attraction to core some more and succeeded.
Added another one of those 1/8" thick x 1" diameter neo magnets and stacked it to the other one.
Had to back it away a little from the rotor and rotate the magnet bar until the sweet spot was found.
It now takes even less force to rotate the magnet rotor than before, would say at least 95% of the force normally required to remove the rotor magnet from the core has been neutralized.
Think this method is superior to the odd-even, 7 magnet rotor and 8 stator method, as bill muller used.
As this is a passive method and requires no extra power input to achieve.
peace love light

[bistander]

peace love light

Hi Sky,

I have no grudge with you. I encourage experimentation. The only goal I have is true knowledge derived from facts. I see nothing wrong with collection of data. The more; the better. Get what you can and share what you want.

Regards,

bi

[BroMikey]

Like Turion has said, don't be pushed and don't feed the trolls.
Bi is never going to be happy with your results he comes off sounding
(for optics) professional in all his leading statements and as I am sure
you have become well aware by now is setting you up as a stupid fool.

if Bi does this to Turion he will do it to you so like the boss has stated
only share when you want to and don't be rushed into it. Scopes are
not needed. Power factor is for something else.

The goal is simple AMPS in at the drill press motor will remain constant
no matter how many coils are added with opposition magnets helping.

Even with a single amp reading on the drive motor and a single coil
generating below speed up and after slight speed up proves the point.

This is where you are and when it slightly speed up and generates
you will have your first victory. Bi and the likes are going to say that
this victory is a fraud.

Of course you know that tread on the scorpions Nice an easy

That's all they're good for

[bistander]

Test data

Sky,

This is right. Take data and prove to yourself. Then share with the rest of us, please. Without actual measured data record it will be difficult for you to analyze the benefits and value of design features.

I assume your input to the motor (drill press) is AC. You can use the AC Amperes as input data but I suggest you use a kiil-a-watt meter at the wall plug recording AC volts, amps, and real power (watts) and PF.

Suggest doing this:
Rotor only.
With core.
Keep core in place from here on.
With neutralizing magnets.
With coil, no load, w/o neutralizing.
With coil, no load, with neutralizing.
Repeat tests with coils having load and then shorted.

Of course when you test with the coil, record the output V, I, PF. Scope shots are nice if you have an oscilloscope.

The drill press should give a pretty constant RPM but tach measurements are nice, especially if you're looking for AUL.

Temperature of the core, magnets and coils are useful data.

Nice workmanship on the prototype. Hoping you can get some useful data and decide to share.

Regards,

bi

[BroMikey]

That is right and so much less force is needed to turn that rotor.
Great choice yes repulsion for the opposing magnets to neutralize
the core to magnet attraction that makes for hard start ups as well as
having and overall reduction of drive input while running at full speed.

This means you need a SET of repulsion magnets for every SET
(1 on each side) of coils and their cores.

Glad you are experimenting and figuring out things as you go.

Oh and I do see the masses are waking up on the FAKE information
war that has been waged against them for decades. The internet and
all of the ways we connect is showing us that key ideas were being
withheld in the past. NO MORE!!

Your machine will do nicely. 2 coils could put you over the top. Also
having the right circuits coming off of your coils might improve the
output depending on what is being powered. That is later.

[SkyWatcher]

Hi bromikey, thanks for the great reply.

Yes bromikey, I am aware of most of the deceptions you speak of and then some.
Will continue to try my best, even though we have such massive cheating in this realm, and I mean, even supernatural hacking and cheating, so the ones you speak of can get their own way.
Do hope the divine will curtail these interfences into the affairs of humanity, like yesterday.

So, was working on the project a bit today and decided to work on the magnet to core neutralization method of turion's, before winding the coil.
It seems to be working, not perfectly yet, though I can see how it probably can be tweaked further to be so.
Maybe it needs a little more magnet flux, by placing another magnet stacked to the first one and then tweak from there.
peace love light

https://youtu.be/tgU_GgweHzs

[BroMikey]

Good progress, thanks for sharing the rotor build, anyone with a few
tools can make. That is what we want, to show the whole world how
the average person can prove the entire scientific community wrong.

Wrong how? In that we as a people have been lied to for generations
lies coming from the public schools controlled by the people who hate
the people. We have been told in book form that getting more energy
out of an electrical device than is put into it.

This is wrong teaching, like the FAKE NEWS MEDIA did to Tesla, made
him out to be a crazy person in his old age. All of N. Tesla's marketable
invention were stolen from him that could make the thieves wealth
were immediately produced worldwide.

The rest of his inventions were shelved. Welcome to Tesla's lenz free
"COILS FOR ELECTROMAGNETS" patent that is only 1 page. The 1 page
patent is small and easy to ignore.

Keep at it SkyWatcher what you are going to witness will change many
minds and you won't stop short like so many other who get what they
came for and vanish like cowards.

You built the rotor properly, obviously as smooth as it is, most of that
rattling noise is the drill press gearbox with a small amount of core
cogging sound.

Once the coils with cores are placed on each side it with be much quieter
at full speed and even better when the opposition magnets are installed.

All we need is one guy who is willing to follow the steps that Dave
Bowling has outlined. Piece of cake. You have all the hard part done
the rotor is one of the most important parts. Rotors must be strong
and they must be safe, you did that, however plan to have a safety
cover in the end that can be removed for viewing the setup, then with
top in place run it for as long as you like.

Anyone with speed up load load TESLA COILS FOR ELECTROMAGNETS
can generate power cheaper on the input than conventional means.

This is lie #1 that coils drawing watts have to slug down the drive
motor. Lie #2 is that this drive input can not be further reduced to
a point that it does not change regardless on the number of generator
coils used. One good way is to use the opposition or magnetic
neutralization magnets.
Lie #3 that this is all an illusion unless it is looped or unless the device
is sent to NASA for verification.

Think for yourself men are far and few between. Nice job Sky.