Multifilar Generator Coil - Lenz delay Experiments

[BroMikey]

Took your picture again

[Turion]

Data

All the data I have shared on the forum was for my big machine, which had six of the 2” magnets on it that were 1/4” thick. When I went with the thicker rotor there were pairs of those magnets on the rotor with a thin piece of plastic between them, but still just six magnet (pairs). So 2800 rpm was the required RPM to get speed up under load. 12 coils at 120-130 volts and 1.5 amps per coil. My current rotor has 12 magnet pair and I have seen speed up as low as 1600 RPM. The magnets are smaller in diameter, but have almost the same mass because they are way thicker. I’m fairly sure it will speed up under load at LOWER RPM. BECAUSE, doubling the number of magnets is not the only change that was made.

The original coils on the 2800 RPM machine were 3 strands at 1000 feet each, but I went down to 800 foot strands to bring the voltage down to 120 volts.

Current coils are 12 strands of 250 feet each, with four strands in each group connected in series. I still end up with 3 wires coming off the coil so amp output is the about the same, but speed up under load RPM goes down.

The capacity of these coils is greater, so that means a greater output as a generator coil. I haven’t measured the output and won’t until I get the generator back together.

If your goal is to bring down the RPM for speed up under load, you have 2 choices
1. Add more magnets to the rotor.
2. Add more strands of wire in parallel connected in series.
You can still have roughly the same total amount of wire on your coil, but just shorter strands and more of them. Gives you more in parallel connected in series and more capacitance.

I guess I was very vague about the AC ceiling fan. It was an EXHAUST fan in the bathroom ceiling. An entirely different kind of motor. Sorry about the confusion.

[BroMikey]

It must have been significantly lower for you to mention. Were you
getting speed up at 1000rpm's? It seems like I remember you already
got one of your coils speeding up at 1600rpm's with all of the wires
in series. You probably wanted more current so you are using 3 circuits
of around a 1000 ft each and 2800 rpm's is normal. How much under
2800rpm's were you able to get speed up?

Even 2200rpm's would be good.Induction motors have several hundred
ft of wire on them. Several thousand feet? I guess you have a tiny ceiling
motor? I don't know about that, seems like a lot.

Here is a ceiling motor winding, looks like hair thin wire. You are
right AGAIN You could put 130vac into one of those and not
stress it out to badly.




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[BroMikey]

Thank you for being redundant. That is what I need. I have always had
some learning disability and I jump to conclusions sometimes.

NOW I GET IT. And that is what I came for. This is good data. I guess
I will see just how slow I can get speed up using an induction AC motor
as a load. Awesome. I like these experiments.

[Turion]

[BroMikey]

This is the part I don't understand. What does this mean? Connected in series?
You mean electrically connected?

[BroMikey]

Okay my mistake, we have gone thru this 6 years now and it seems I did it
again, made a mistake about the setup you are running. I still am not
sure. Are you saying the induction motor you replaced of the DC motor
is now connected in series with the gen winding?

I thought you meant you ran an AC motor in place of a DC motor and
not putting gen coils in series with the induction winding? That is not
something I would have tried.

It was my understanding you switched motors. During Thanes video is
the equivalent of and AC motor vs a DC motor, probably don't follow me
but that's okay.

You see the DC motor and the AC motor respond differently to extra
flux and you know that. I know you are not trying to fool everyone but
I had to give BI a bone to chew on.

[Quantum_well]

Be amazed!

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[Turion]

[bistander]

Inductor

...It dawned on me that when the motor coil of the AC motor was added to the circuit it increased the total capacitance of the circuit, which is also increasing the capacitance of the main coil...

Hi Turion,

Any increase in capacitance due to the motor as a load would be inconsequential compared to the inductance. Ever notice how circuit components called inductors are actual coils of wire, often using a ferrous core. Motor coils make excellent inductors. And motor loads for generators (alternators) are responsible for lagging power factors.

Some AC motors come equipped with capacitors attached for starting and sometimes running. The capacitors are typically mounted on the outside of the motor case. You don't specify the motor type.

I am just relating a few facts. I don't want to discuss it further. Take or leave it.

Regards,

bi

[Turion]

Fool?

Not trying to “fool” anyone. Just describing what I saw and what I believe happened. Take it or leave it.

By the way, what I was talking about in my post has NOTHING to do with the video you showed of Thane’s stuff. He was showing that when the brass coupler is replaced with a magnetically conducting iron or steel coupler, there is an effect caused by the (now) coupled magnetic fields. With the brass coupler, no speed up under load. With the iron or steel coupler, speed up under load.

What I was showing is that when a speed up under load GENERATOR coil is physically connected to the coil in the motor it’s trying to run, the additional wire in the motor is ADDED to the length of the wire in the generator coil, increasing its capacitance and allowing it to speed up at a lower RPM, thus lower voltage. In BOTH cases in my example there is speed up under load. It has NOTHING to do with coupling magnetic fields and EVERYTHING to do with physically increasing the capacitance of the coil by ADDING MORE WIRE that just happens to be in the load. It should indicate to almost anyone how important the LOAD is that is connected to the generator coil. Not what Thane was showing at all.

[BroMikey]

Hey Turion
your new setup is not a fair test as a comparison to your machines.
You'll fool just about everyone there tho.

[MerLynn]

Here is part 3 and my mistake, this is not 8 yrs ago it is 11 yrs
ago i was looking at this.

Anyway here it is with the AC induction motor tight to the genny

[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vX8Cxkrpqs[/VIDEO]

That is an exceptional Boat Anchor you built there. Keely said you cannot make a Neutral Center by Mechanical means. Its done by Creating a Magnetic Field WITHIN a Magnetic Field. Diodes stop the 2 way flow so it cannot ever achieve Radiant or unlimited over unity.

The Fisher and Paykel or Samsung washer machine motor is ALL you need besides an ability to think outside the box.

[BroMikey]

Here's one for you....

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Still Magnetic Light as Walter Russell described it.
Cold Fusion Electricity as Ponds and Fishyman described it.
Equilibrium as Joe describes it
Zero Point Energy as the Ill informed describe it

Does Not have any Lenz law problems. Nor is it meterable...
But you know by its effects that you have it.
It comes with many different uses and humans seem to only want HEAT from it... To save their lazy arses from work.

Keshe says it ( I dont like his terminology at all) that Structures of Light constitutes the ONLY building block in the Universe. Tesla says it that Everything is the Light. Its not a flow of electrons creating Lenz laws...

Energy is a 2 way flow and we only play with the Hot side. Can Fire Cracker Scientists be that dumb?

Here's but one use for Radiant Energy....

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Thx MerLynn

Hey Turion

The independent lab told thane it was the motor cap speeding it up. LOL

[MerLynn]

Here's one for you....

Radiant Energy as Tesla described it,
Neutral Center Energy as Keely described it,
Still Magnetic Light as Walter Russell described it.
Cold Fusion Electricity as Ponds and Fishyman described it.
Equilibrium as Joe describes it
Zero Point Energy as the Ill informed describe it

Does Not have any Lenz law problems. Nor is it meterable...
But you know by its effects that you have it.
It comes with many different uses and humans seem to only want HEAT from it... To save their lazy arses from work.

Keshe says it ( I dont like his terminology at all) that Structures of Light constitutes the ONLY building block in the Universe. Tesla says it that Everything is the Light. Its not a flow of electrons creating Lenz laws...

Energy is a 2 way flow and we only play with the Hot side. Can Fire Cracker Scientists be that dumb?

Here's but one use for Radiant Energy....

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Aqua-Chi-and-Crystal-Silver-Q2-Orb-Bio-Electric-Field-Energy-Footbath-BEFE/174030365268

Here is another (using the password wizzzard777)

https://www.magneticwaterscience.com/?page_id=46

Here's how to make Food out of sea water using Radiant Zero point, Neutral Center Energy

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Ocean-White-Sea-Salts-Alchemy-Ocean-Milk-Manna-AKA-Ormus/173841889962