Multifilar Generator Coil - Lenz delay Experiments

[Pot head]

Thank you for your time sky.
Your request is answered on my thread.

[SkyWatcher]

Hi all, picked up a tap and die set at harbor freight today.
Works well, used an 1/8" tap for the set screw hole on the nut coupler, which will be used as a motor arbor.

Hi turion, sounds good, look forward to seeing what you will share.

Hi pot head, thanks for sharing.
Interesting magnet layout, pyramids hey, are you creating some cool vortexes with that.
If you would like to explain that rotor design, I'd like to know.

peace love light

[Pot head]

Do you have all of the generator coils to go on each magnet? What is
the intended gap? as close as possible with caution.Is this a multi-filar set up?yes It appears to have a
flexible shaft? What is the reason for the 36 magnet pattern?I have experimented.

What were you smoking at the time? Not sure, it crawled away.No No strike that last question.....Okay.

[BroMikey]

Dear Turion, please refer to my original thread, junkyard electricity.
The rotor fits in your hand.
The top row is all north, the bottom all south, the middle is nsnsns.
The top is inverted pyramids and the bottom is upright pyramids.
It puts out!!

Do you have all of the generator coils to go on each magnet? What is
the intended gap? Is this a multi-filar set up? It appears to have a
flexible shaft? What is the reason for the 36 magnet pattern?

[Pot head]

Dear Turion, please refer to my original thread, junkyard electricity.
The rotor fits in your hand.
The top row is all north, the bottom all south, the middle is nsnsns.
The top is inverted pyramids and the bottom is upright pyramids.
It puts out!!

[alexelectric]

we hope that your goal will soon be completed, and thank you for all your comments and experiences, where I learn and guide me to better understand the generator's construction.
and I also follow with attention and study the comments of other colleagues, either for or against, you also learn from differences, greetings to all

[Pot head]

Pot Head
Are your magnets going to be on edge of yourrotir or the face of yourrotir?

Thin enough and multiple layers add strength.

[BroMikey]

Actually neither case is the Tesla bifilar winding which will yield the highest capacitive reactance. Wrong again


Following Tesla's teaching, You don't so why say that you do?

you must layer wind the two wires adjacent to each other and then connect the two wires in series such the potential difference between adjacent turns
Yer kidding?




If you want the highest intrinsic capacitance in the coil, bifilar is it. I have no use for such a coil so am not interested in building one.

I'm just going from a read of Tesla's patent In your twisted slant


and past study/experimentation with capacitors.

I've also done a lot with coils Yeah you wind in the box what yer told



bi

Can't try it, won't try it, don't care about it however as the final aurthority
just ramble on in an effort to sound like a big wheel know it all.



Coils composed of independent strands or conductors wound side by side and connected in series are not in themselves new, and I do not regard a more detailed description of the same necessary.

In carrying out my invention it is to be observed that certain facts are well understood by those skilled in the art, viz.: the relations of capacity, self-induction, and the frequency and potential difference of the current. What capacity, therefore, in any given case it is desirable to obtain and what special winding will secure it, are readily determinable from the other factors which are known.


Write it on your forehead Bu

[Pot head]

Yeah!!

Great stuff for me to learn!
My question is: How to keep magnets from flying away?
If your rotor is within a certain size range, you can shrink wrap it and use several layers if needed; always needed.
Look at my little rotor and tell yourself it will be needed.

[bistander]

Not what I said

Quoting you:
"Which bi says not to do as additional wires in parallel in excess of two do nothing according to him"
I never said that.

Actually neither case is the Tesla bifilar winding which will yield the highest capacitive reactance. Following Tesla's teaching, you must layer wind the two wires adjacent to each other and then connect the two wires in series such the potential difference between adjacent turns is one half of the total coil voltage. When you use multiple strands (like 24 for example), you lose the ability to ensure that maximum potential difference between adjacent turns and also decrease the effective capacitor plate area while increasing the dielectric length, all of which decrease the capacitance and/or capacitive reactance. Then when you connect in trifilar, quadfilar, or higher multifilar arrangement you further decrease the capacitive reactance due to voltage squared relationship which Tesla mentioned in that quote from his patent.

If you want the highest intrinsic capacitance in the coil, bifilar is it. I have no use for such a coil so am not interested in building one. I just see folks going to a lot of effort and expense for the wrong reasons. That's why I inquired if Tesla ever mentioned multifilar or where you came up with the idea. Could it be another case where you know because it is right in front of you like the 6-cell battery?

I'm just going from a read of Tesla's patent and past study/experimentation with capacitors. I've also done a lot with coils however needed to avoid capacitance in those applications. Most were DC or low frequency anyway.

Regards,

bi

[BroMikey]

Hi all, Hi turion, thanks for the informative video, good and simple way to explain it.

Been winding today, up to 9 strands, it takes around 15 minutes to add a new strand to the multistrand coil, now that I've ironed out the bugs.

At 9 strands, it is 23 ounces of copper, so 24 strands, will be around 60 ounces.

peace love light

That is the exact weight of my 29awg coil of 24 strands and core, 60oz.

[BroMikey]

Yes Turion, l read that before. He speaks of only bifilar winding, and the standard monofilar. He says nothing about, 3, 4, 5, ... multi beyond 2, the bifilar. My question is: where, or why use multi, or more than 2, bifilar? It does not appear N. Tesla teaches that.

Regards,

bi

................................. going "multi", more than 2 which is bifilar, is counterproductive, or in other words, yields less energy storage in capacitance than a bifilar coil of equivalent turns and resistance.

Regards,

bi

If you put 12 wires in series and then 12 more wires in series you have 2 sets of 12
As opposed to putting two wires in series and then two more in series and then two more so you end up with 12 sets of 2 wires coming off the coil
2 of 12 or 12 of 2.

Sounds like my old chemistry teacher, can't be done, don't do it.
To late we done did it and it does work and it does do what Tesla said
it would do. Tesla gave us a lenz free generator coils and all people
can do is say @ DUH

[SkyWatcher]

Hi all, Hi turion, thanks for the informative video, good and simple way to explain it.

Been winding today, up to 9 strands, it takes around 15 minutes to add a new strand to the multistrand coil, now that I've ironed out the bugs.

At 9 strands, it is 23 ounces of copper, so 24 strands, will be around 60 ounces.

peace love light

[bistander]

Huh?

...
2 strands of 12 in series will get you speed up under load at a reduced speed of the rotor from 12 strands of two in series. ...

2 strands of 12 and 12 strands of 2? What is that?

@bi
duh

What is it? .... Support of my contention, isn't it? How do you read it? @BM

[BroMikey]

2 strands of 12 and 12 strands of 2? What is that?

@bi
duh