ENLIGHTENED MAGNETISM (The Full Proof of Ken Wheeler's Theories)

[Ufopolitics]

Hi Ufo,

Don't like calculas, hey? Anyway, different language like I said. Here it is:

Displacement, deflection, rotation, spin... You say "rotation"; I say "no rotation" on the CRT.

Static magnetic field... You say "spin"; I say "no spin".

Middle of the magnet... You say "Bloch wall, dielectric inertial plane, gate to counterspace"; I say "nothing different than the rest of the magnet".

We disagree on a few things. Please just carry on and show proof and enlightenment per topic.

Regards,

bi

Hey Bistander,

I like Calculus...I do it all the time on my job...
But you were applying your Lorentz angular deviation for a single electron...when we are dealing with a high velocity stream of electrons...and...sorry. But can't do it like that...to then add single events.

Anyways...I do understand your position...we all live in an Engineering World where it don't matter if you reverse voltage polarity in any given solenoid or mechanical actuator...just like the sample you have shown previously on a C Core with a gap and an insert (plunger)...it don't matter if + or - goes wherever...right?

So again...in a world like this...where it really don't matter if South or North...the "job gets done" either way...then who cares about all these stupid theories about "spinning polarizations"...right?

Then it becomes a pretty hard job...to make anyone more "enlightened"...when they actually don't see the point right?


However...I will answer same way Galileo did about the Earth spinning or not...to the Spanish Catholic Inquisition...

It still spins...


Regards


Ufopolitics


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[bistander]

Opinions, beliefs, or whatever

You can not account for just one single electron, ...

Hi Ufo,

Don't like calculas, hey? Anyway, different language like I said. Here it is:

Displacement, deflection, rotation, spin... You say "rotation"; I say "no rotation" on the CRT.

Static magnetic field... You say "spin"; I say "no spin".

Middle of the magnet... You say "Bloch wall, dielectric inertial plane, gate to counterspace"; I say "nothing different than the rest of the magnet".

We disagree on a few things. Please just carry on and show proof and enlightenment per topic.

Regards,

bi

[ricards]

UFO,

If only you had taken a look at what I was referring you in my first post in this thread.. (joseph Newman model of magnetism).. you would realize I'm not against your "Rotation-Spin" or gyroscopic action as I call it in my language.

The thing about the theory that I'm against is the vortex in the poles and that "double hemisphere" as markoul is referring to... there is not enough evidence to support this claim as a matter of fact "Magnetic Attraction" clearly destroys this model (vortex), in which ken's book conveniently Eliminates..
and explains as "Voidance" in an analogy he refers to it being dragged towards the "Dielectric Inertial Plain"...
so It appears as if a Stream of "Aether" is moving towards counterspace "Centripetally" is causing objects to be attracted.. towards the magnet this is his explanation of "Magnetic Attraction"...
but as there is a "Centripetal" Flow of "Aether" TOWARDS counterspace there is also a "Centrifugal" Flow of "Aether" FROM counterspace.. if something springs in and something springs out.. forces SHOULD cancel out.. but NO.. there is still the thing called "Magnetic Attraction"..

another thing... Incidentally our planet has a large magnetic field.. applying ken's theory suggest that "Gravity" is caused by "Aether" flow towards counterspace (ok seems good) and gravitational force is the effect we feel being dragged by the "Aether" streams towards counterspace (okay understandable)..

now since people here is trying to apply "Magnetism" as a universal thing as ken suggest as "dielectric flow", "Aether Flow" or whatever term is it, I'd like to challenge the theory in which "The Model" was built..

If there is really an "Aether" Flow centripetally towards counter space in the bloch region of a magnet.. you should be able to "Bend" the light passing there WITHOUT using Magnetic Medium AT ALL to show deflection.. since "Aether" is the theoretical medium for "Light" in which its true name is formed "Luminiferous Aether" or "Light-Bearing-Aether"..

a vertical Interferometer has already proven that light is interfered by "Gravity" (Aether Flow Towards the center of earth),
if your not familiar with it see this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DH-NC8rvGvU)

I was thinking maybe you just didn't get my question..
as you focus more on the "Geometric" Side of magnetism and pay less attention to the more important side of the theory..
If this cannot be proven.. the entire "Model" in which you all promote would shaken.. or even collapse..
then we will be back to the Magnetic Field of the Iron Filings..

[Ufopolitics]

Hi Ufo,

Yep, different language.

Look at it this way. What causes the contact of a single electron in the beam to deviate position from the horizontal centerline? Lorenz force. Right? And at an instant in time, that occurs between a moving charge (electron with velocity vector V, a straight line direction of motion) and the magnetic field at that location (B vector, also straight lined with specific direction. The result is a force on the electron (F, a vector having a straight force and direction). Now integrate that interaction over time for the period of one horizontal sweep and you will get a function of straight forces, up and down, left and right of the center of the screen from the screen back to the electron gun or extent of the magnet's field. The image on the screen conforms to the electron beam that has had its trajectory altered by incremental linear displacements by linear forces. Nothing was rotated. The B vector (magnetic field) was static once movement on the sample magnet stopped. The instantaneous velocity of the electron is straight. Nothing there is rotating except your imagination.

You can not account for just one single electron, when we are talking about a BEAM of Electrons shut with the strength of the RAY GUN ASSY...So it is a BEAM, not just a single electron.

The Magnetic Field at the driving coils REVERSE POLES, for the HORIZONTAL SCREEN LINE the ACTING DRIVERS ARE VERTICALLY LOCATED, this creates reversed DRIVING spins, which displaces the BEAM from CENTER TO LEFT and from CENTER TO RIGHT.

What's the difference between the effects of the deflection coils and the sample magnet? Nothing. Same action. Straight deflection and incremental displacements. The fields from the deflection coils don't rotate. Neither does the field from the magnet.

All DRIVER Coils produce SPINS, and THOSE SPINS are what makes E-BEAM to move from one end to the other of screen. Watch my video again.

Isn't the reason you want to see rotation to support your contention that the magnetic field is rotating?

You need to study SPATIAL GEOMETRY Bistander...to see what I see here.

In your nice video, does Mr. (or is Dr) LaPoint ever mention rotating magnet field, or Bloch wall. Wonder why?

Regards,

bi

Why?...just because He don't need to "mention it"...he is "showing it"...But you also missed to see it spinning...


Regards


Ufopolitics

[bistander]

Rotation?

Hi Ufo,

Yep, different language.

Look at it this way. What causes the contact of a single electron in the beam to deviate position from the horizontal centerline? Lorenz force. Right? And at an instant in time, that occurs between a moving charge (electron with velocity vector V, a straight line direction of motion) and the magnetic field at that location (B vector, also straight lined with specific direction. The result is a force on the electron (F, a vector having a straight force and direction). Now integrate that interaction over time for the period of one horizontal sweep and you will get a function of straight forces, up and down, left and right of the center of the screen from the screen back to the electron gun or extent of the magnet's field. The image on the screen conforms to the electron beam that has had its trajectory altered by incremental linear displacements by linear forces. Nothing was rotated. The B vector (magnetic field) was static once movement on the sample magnet stopped. The instantaneous velocity of the electron is straight. Nothing there is rotating except your imagination.

What's the difference between the effects of the deflection coils and the sample magnet? Nothing. Same action. Straight deflection and incremental displacements. The fields from the deflection coils don't rotate. Neither does the field from the magnet.

Isn't the reason you want to see rotation to support your contention that the magnetic field is rotating?

In your nice video, does Mr. (or is Dr) LaPoint ever mention rotating magnet field, or Bloch wall. Wonder why?

Regards,

bi

[Ufopolitics]

Displacement versus Deflection

You yourself called it deflection.

Regards,

bi

Negative Bistander,

The Thread is there still...anyone could go there and check.

When I showed the SIDES of the Magnet DEFLECTION on the CRT...it was when you said it was a DISPLACEMENT, NOT a Deflection.

Deflections are ALL of them, the ACT OF "BENDING" the Electron Beam.

An UP or DOWN Displacement is a Deflection as well, but it does NOT HAVE A COMMON CENTER WITH TWO OPPOSITE FORCES ACTING UPON THE SCANLINE PLANE.

Edit: Hi Ufo,

I ceased arguing with you, rotation vs deflection, in the other thread because it's like we speak different language. Seems pointless. You bring it up again so WTF. Here goes.

You were talking about the effect the an external magnetic field has on the CRT. What are the coils on the sides of the tube which control the position of the beam's intersection with the screen? Deflection coils. Right? They function by making a magnetic field which deflects the beam, which is moving charges. The magnetic field from a magnet held close to the screen does the same thing. It deflects the electron beam. Nothing is rotating. Except your perception of the resulting image (scanline) on the screen. You can call it what you want, but it is deflection to me.

Regards,

bi

So what?

On my Video I clearly dedicate all the first part to show how the HORIZONTAL-VERTICAL BEAM DEFLECTING COILS (DRIVERS) WORK.

They receive a specific signal, that I also showed on video, REVERSING POLARITIES, running at 15 KHZ.

This FACT creates a 2D TRIANGULAR PLANE, which is seen on screen as a simple LINE...A GEOMETRICAL INTERSECTION, between SCREEN PLANE and E-BEAM RASTERED PLANE.

And so, actually what we all see on screen IS NOT JUST A "2D LINE" ROTATION, BUT A 3D TORSION OF THAT 2D RASTERED PLANE


Maybe You (or whoever else do NOT or CAN NOT "see" this FACT)...is because YOU ALL need some reviewing of SPATIAL GEOMETRY, BASICALLY PLANES, INTERSECTIONS PLUS TORSION'S BASED ON EXTERNAL ACTING FORCES... again.

Sorry, but I am not gonna be your geometry teacher here...same way you search to give your answers on Wikipedia and else...then could do same with Advanced Spatial Geometry.

This TORSION in 3D VIEW that JUST FRONTAL POLES GENERATES ON E-BEAM PLANE (NOT SIDES) , gives Us a FULL UNDERSTANDING OF THE VORTEX SHAPE OF BOTH MAGNETIC POLES.

Now, again, the fact that you or whoever else, do not see this, is beyond my problem...as it is clearly IGNORANCE ON THIS SUBJECT ANALYSIS.


Take care


Ufopolitics

[Ufopolitics]

To UFO,
If you don't want to answer my questions and criticism about the "Enlightened Magnetism", that's fine with me..

Hello Ricards,

I believe that -so far- I have been answering all your questions-doubts...haven't I?

just leave my name out of this "relationship" you guys have with bistander.

The only reason why your name was next to bistander's, is because you both completely DENY to observe a Partial Spin-Rotation on CRT Scanline Plane.

That's all.

when you ran out of logical explanations.. just say so.. you don't have to have all the answers..

Whenever I can't find an explanation...I go back to my experiments...they... most of times... show me the correct way or the answer.


Take care


Ufopolitics

[ricards]

a Magnetism Discussion or a name calling discussion?..

I don't see a reason why my name should be mentioned and affiliated with someone else..

It seems this thread is more like a "name-calling" thread than and intelligent one..

To UFO,
If you don't want to answer my questions and criticism about the "Enlightened Magnetism", that's fine with me..
just leave my name out of this "relationship" you guys have with bistander.
when you ran out of logical explanations.. just say so.. you don't have to have all the answers..

[bistander]

Deflection

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Above We are observing SOUTH Facing toward Screen, with TWO CRT's on each SIDE...can clearly see the deflections:

LEFT CRT= ABOVE (POSITIVE) ZEROLINE
RIGHT CRT= BELOW(NEGATIVE) ZEROLINE
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You yourself called it deflection.

Regards,

bi

Edit: Hi Ufo,

I ceased arguing with you, rotation vs deflection, in the other thread because it's like we speak different language. Seems pointless. You bring it up again so WTF. Here goes.

You were talking about the effect the an external magnetic field has on the CRT. What are the coils on the sides of the tube which control the position of the beam's intersection with the screen? Deflection coils. Right? They function by making a magnetic field which deflects the beam, which is moving charges. The magnetic field from a magnet held close to the screen does the same thing. It deflects the electron beam. Nothing is rotating. Except your perception of the resulting image (scanline) on the screen. You can call it what you want, but it is deflection to me.

Regards,

bi

[mikrovolt]

The bible's creation account explains that matter was created first.
(The elements made up of sub entities bound together with energy.)
next God creates light. The day and night which are directional.
( Light is EM )

Gravity, I feel it is a subset of the above. Recently we heard and saw the
LIGO instrumentation record for the first time the thump and the chart.

https://youtu.be/PjubaPZEBDA?t=1966

[bistander]

Nice video

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[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EPlyiW-xGI[/VIDEO]

Video above was from Dec 2012...

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Thanks Ufo,

I enjoyed this video. Very well done. From five and a half years ago. 2 questions. Did the patent issue so we can see how the bowls are made? And what happened to the relatively inexpensive electric generator using the technology which had been developed?

Regards,

bi

Edit: found it. Patent issued 1/28/2014

[Markoul]

The debate is over

For everyone who believes that iron filings can depict the flux field of a magnet. And the field is force lines going, according to mainstream from N to S pole.

The below picture uses special made iron junks made as arrows pointing to the the direction of minimum magnetic reluctance.



If the field was as mainstream describes it with the famous iron filings why are these circled iron arrows are flipped and pointing to opposite directions where the poles are located nearest to them? Shouldn't they all point from North to South pole?!...

This is absolute proof (empirical ) that:

1) iron filings can only show one force vector of the field namely direction where the relative to their position, nearest magnetic pole is, therefore completely incapable to depict the full and real flux field of a magnet and...and actually they depict it wrongly for more than 200 years now.

2) even the iron filings in this particular arrow configuration confirm this:



goodnight and good luck!

This above picture is the Greek letter θ, first letter of the word "θεός", meaning GOD...did GOD left his signature on the magnetic field?...

Why is your Brain have to hemispheres?... why nuts (and our nuts ) have two hemispheres? why our heart has two hemispheres why all spores have two hemispheres? why why why?...because all are magnetic dipole manifestations, thus two hemispheres of condensed energy.

Why good and bad? why man a woman... and the list goes on and on... counter duality... the driving force and equilibrium of all God's creation... magnetism couldn't be an exception, even geometrically.


hahahahahaha!

EM

[Ufopolitics]

The Primer Fields Part 1...David LaPoint

Doesn't this video show that the image moves location relative to the magnet depending on the position of the position of the light source? So you are telling us since the ferrocell depicts the magnetic field perfectly,100%, the magnetic field must also be moving with the position of the light source, right?

[VIDEO]v=Iwc-oBGSGeg[/VIDEO]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Iwc-oBGSGeg

Regards,

bi

Problem is People are waking up little by little...they will eventually get to a completely FULL realization of what has been going on...in the past 200 years...

Then it will become VIRAL... and ABSOLUTELY NO ONE WOULD BE ABLE TO STOP IT FROM GOING AND GOING...like a Down Hill Snow ball.

[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EPlyiW-xGI[/VIDEO]

Video above was from Dec 2012...

Timm Vanderelli is the creator of Ferrocell...and video posted by Bistander above...

Timm wants to preserve his Patent on the USPTO...and I understand that....reason why He will always try to "comply with the Dogmatic Science" around Us all...

I also know Timm, as I have purchased Ferrocells from him, as he has also contributed to my work by donating some excellent lens...plus emails exchange on our opinions on the whole subject.

I got to know Timm, thanks to Ken Wheeler's Book.


Ufopolitics

[Ufopolitics]

Oh please, pretending to ask questions followed by posting ready made solutions only proves you've no interest at all in doing anything here but causing trouble.

Pretend to ask , then find ready made solutions and existing answers. How much more phony can you get? Anyone can do what you're just managed to accomplish. It's a play out of the disinfo book.

You ignored everything which you couldn't explain with data pulled from wikipedia, or some other ready made source. Laughably showing you have no clue what's happening since the data is in wikipedia in a round about way.

Nobody cares what you have to say. I don't and doubt many others do, for it's never inventive, creative, helpful, thoughtful, or kind. Your responses are almost always nothing more than a eyesore full of claptrap contrived to picture everything from anyone else as wrong, simple minded, and dubious.

You're posts are nothing more than an ill mannered corruption of malignant dismissive claptrap blathered for self aggrandizement. One merely has to look the nonsense you've just posted. The worst part is that you're like a perfect example of the worst kind self appointed teacher, one you cannot escape from evidently, and because no one here has had sense enough to ban you from the entire site.

Hello Gambeir,

Thanks for describing Bistander EXACTLY as he is in just a few words...

That's exactly how Bistander acts...plus whenever he can not get away with a web searched "ready" answer...then he will just fly away from the Thread...

He keeps on calling Ken Wheeler's and all my EXPERIMENTAL DATA..."Fantasy Magnetism"

He keeps asking Markoul for "Empirical data"...when I am exhausted to present to Bistander so much "Empirical Data" based on the two main simple descriptors of "Empirical"...EXPERIMENT AND OBSERVATION.

FOR EXAMPLE:

He just do not want to admit there is a CLEAR PARTIAL SPIN ON A MAGNETIC POLE, when I have shown it very clear on a CRT HORIZONTAL SCANLINE:



Then I have made all the DETAILED graphics on BOTH SPINS:







But still...Bistander can not see a Spin in ALL the above Graphics...and believe me, He knows how a CRT works very well....what it is composed off....plus how is the Scanline Plane (rastered) achieved, etc,etc

He still do not see a PARTIAL SPIN there...

When we approach or take away magnet this spin increases with shorter distance, as decreases to zero line when magnet is pulled away.

THESE ARE THE CLEAREST FARADAY'S + LENZ PRINCIPLES ON INDUCTION FROM EARLIER EXPERIMENTS WITH A COIL AND A CYLINDRICAL MAGNET!!!

When we approach (INSERT) Cylindrical magnet within empty Coil we observe a POSITIVE INCREASE of Induced Energy (EMF) on Galvanometer...

Whenever we extract (pull away) the magnet we see a NEGATIVE REACTION (REVERSED SPIN)...AS LENZ OBSERVED...

Still Bistander do NOT see a spin there...

I should have better write "Bistander still...do not WANT TO see a Spin above..."

I went to Old Geometries on a Physical Spin Concept...my own graphics...not gathered from anywhere, note my "dedication" to Bistander at the bottom...:



I did same image in reverse colors...to see if Bistander will see it better?



Then He got on saying all he sees there is a "DISPLACEMENT"... but not a SPIN.

ANYTHING THAT HAS A CONSTANT CENTER, PLUS TWO OPPOSITE FORCES AT EACH SIDE OF THE PIVOT POINT IS CALLED ROTATION, WHETHER PARTIAL OR NOT, STILL IS A SPIN.

And then Member "Ricards" approach to me also saying that I am the ONLY one who sees a Spin there...

REALLY GUYS?

Ricards...another Bistander but kind off "inferior"?


But then...Bistander just flew away from Thread...end of it...now getting here and facing Markoul...asking for more "Empirical Data or Evidence"


Regards Gambeir, please keep "UNMASKING" who Bistander really is...


Ufopolitics

[bistander]

Moving field image

Last night my adviser, co-author and Dean, made a genuine observation proving once and for all that ferrocell depicts correctly the geometry of the field of a magnet and not the iron fillings and most importantly that field shown by ferrocell is 100% drawn accordingly and perfect match by the magnetic field of the magnet and not by any light interference phenomena.
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Doesn't this video show that the image moves location relative to the magnet depending on the position of the position of the light source? So you are telling us since the ferrocell depicts the magnetic field perfectly,100%, the magnetic field must also be moving with the position of the light source, right?

[VIDEO]v=Iwc-oBGSGeg[/VIDEO]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Iwc-oBGSGeg

Regards,

bi