The technical terms on light and this threads huge complexity
can touch on words like saturation as used in adobe lightroom
Where the slider changes the hue and saturation.
The introduction is easier from a colorful designer perspective
getting comfortable with moving the sliders,what they do to the image.
Since saturation has been covered (another endless occupation)
I would like to compare gradient and the multi pin light source
consider the width of the beam of each led. We want to let the ferro
adjust itself to the magnetic field. yes it is a wire frame 2d to 3d
the wire frame should expand the usefulness helping optical clarity.
There are many controls. This video plays with the gradient filter.
The brush size, nope hit undo button
great now what happened to the mountains. bottom line whatever works, if it is correct !
Making sense of visual adjustments is touchy feely not completely limited to the ferro parameters ?
This is another challenge is getting someone to see the value in advancing in the technology before it is available.
Taking a defensive position help ? It is how you cope with unknown and unresolved issues in new technology.
For example someone is interested in a specific detail in a specific location on a ferro cell.
the use of term saturation professional photography. Here is another tool to enhance sharper detail. Only some will accept it.
It is defining a perspective the purpose of narrowing subject temporarily to address a specific need. Another boring video by mikrovolt sooory.
The gradient settings and brush size to filter sets a gamma programmed into pin lights for ferro enhancement.
secret to understanding magnets fast is to use ludicrous speed.
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Right, I'm taking what Markoul says as fact.
This arrangement must be ubiquitous so it must have implications in
the bigger picture.
What is the effect influencing in say an MRI scan or the MMS mission.
Most of you lot are so narrow minded, how can we see the effect in Earth's
magnetic field? .
Seventy years ago when I was a kid a lot of the things we know today hadn't
even been dreamed of, in our house we still used candles and hauled water
from a well.
I love the Einstein thought experiment with the photon box and the dialectic
between him and Bohr.
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Ufopolitcs,
That's ingenious what you did there with the double electron beams experiment.
Proves 100% what the ferrocell shows matches the CRT electron beam deflection when magnetic deflection is not applied at the end point of the electron beam but at the middle. Exactly the case with the ferrocell shown flux line where the magnet pole is placed face down at the center (middle) of the ferrocell!
Therefore proving that ferrocell and crt is depicting the true field 3D geometry of the pole of a magnetic field. Although in a ferrocell as also Ufopolitcs stated, flux lines coming from both two poles of magnet are magnetically projected and shown by the ferrocel simultaneously as a single combined interlaced and overllaped 3D image.
So ferrocell gives us much more information about a magnetic field than crts but sometimes for some people who are not able to conceptualize 3D info, ferrocell can be a brain twister.
My advice for these people is to start with the CRT experiments observations and if that you find also hard, then stick with the iron filings experiment and don't bother to post in this thread here.
Because You don't understand it that doesn't mean that it is NOT CORRECT...it just means you lack the brain power...
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B field
Interesting article. Thanks.Originally posted by mikrovolt View Post
Ufo,
Notice in this figure all the B vectors. The magnetic field is a continuum with a B vector at every point, not a single vector for the whole thing.
Regards,
bi
Figure is from the article linked by mikro.Attached Files
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A mathematical plain cuts a field. It is perpendicular. It is what is being used. It has been declared, it meets the criteria what is defined a uniform field.Originally posted by Iamnuts View Post"Basically we have created many millions of "slits" that have the freedom to self-align with the lowest potential of the field."
I have great respect for Timm, he's a good researcher. Sometimes things discussed are not particularly from his point of view.
The above quote is important because of the" self align with the lowest potential
of the field" this is happening in 2d although it might appear as in a gas.
We need to look at the field from any particular point in space, with a compass
although the needle assumes the lowest possible state the pivot point is FIXED.
The earth is in essence a magnet so show me how to view that field and get
the results you get from a cell.
NASA is studying magnetic reconnection, its very interesting and worth a look.
John.
There are different levels that visits here so it is clear everyone who tries can have a basic understanding, nothing personal. Simple approach to Reconnection:
Mr. Nutz here is the UCLA study on reconnection.
UCLA BPPL - Magnetic Field Anhilation
We have the field of the two Helmholtz coils and around that is plasma.
I like the out of plane and the probe simulation of the islands.
I am not relating this to ferro cell. Why might I want to do that ?Last edited by mikrovolt; 05-07-2018, 08:38 AM.
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Where to look
Hi Ufo,Originally posted by Ufopolitics View Post...
"Something else" makes those circular images?...where should we all look for that "something else"?
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You might start looking in the literature out there. I think Michael Synder has a number of very good papers on the subject. Below are a few of his ideas on what causes the circular images.
Ferrofluid is a fluid containing dispersed nanoscale magnetic particles. Each particle is a single magnetic domain which is colloidally stabilized to prevent agglomeration. In other words, each ferrofluid particle has a magnetic moment and either coulombic or steric repulsion to stop them from clustering together.From:Observation of the resulting images suggested that the lines were most likely isopotentiallines of a scalar magnetic potential.
Photonic Dipole Contours of Ferrofluid Hele-Shaw Cell
by Michael Snyder and Jonathan Frederick,[1] Department of Engineering and Physics, Murray State University.
I don't pretend to know "all" about ferrofluids or ferrocells, but I do know what magnetic fields look like.
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bi
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Hi Ufo,
Always twisting my answers.
Medium as in the ferrofluid.
The whole space is filled with the magnetic field. Each point in the volume, medium, ferrofluid has an unique B vector to interact with the unique V velocity vector on every charge q in the electron beam.
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bi
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Hello Bistander,Originally posted by bistander View Postonly the force acting on the moving charge including the direction of said force. F = qV B. The vector cross product "
Well, the three vectors are set exactly as any other 3D Grid axis x,y,z...all at 90, nothing new to it...except they apply all this parameters to this axis...
I have clear that -as you wrote above in bold- "ONLY the Force (F) acting on the moving charge, including the direction of said force."...Now, the moving charge q has a velocity V...BUT ALSO carries a VECTOR DIRECTION, which is not stated on formula except by a small arrow on top of qVV1 & V2
Now, the Field Vector B, is ONLY ONE on this experiment...orB...HOWEVER, this only vector B can generate at the same MOMENTUM, TWO OPPOSITE FORCES...which I call F1 & F2...which - I believe- are of exactly same intensity but of opposite vectors directions...Then we could also name them as F1 and -F1.
How could we justify in that Lorentz Equation, that just one B Field Vector (B) is generating simultaneously two opposite forces (F1 & F2) in two particles q(V1) & q(V2)?
That is very simple to write it down on paper Bistander...but not to prove it.Originally posted by bistander View PostContinuing to your next post, all those circles and arcs are paths of the charge and not the magnetic field.
Have in mind that "those paths of the electric charge" are simply the result, the CONSEQUENCE of the Magnetic Field Influence, applying a Force on them, and deflecting their path in a Curvilinear fashion.
"Something else" makes those circular images?...where should we all look for that "something else"?Originally posted by bistander View PostThroughout your development, your magnetic field is static, or remains constant, represented by that big blue arrow. I say the same thing happens in the ferrocell. The magnetic field is static (non-moving, non-flowing) and causing something else to make the circular images, like moving charges, or photons, or, as I saw one hypothesis, a resonance in the medium.
Regards,
bi
Maybe in Fantasy Magnetism?
Wait a minute...did you write "medium"...a "resonance in the medium"...medium is called the Aether...are you now resourcing to the Aether for answers about those circular magnetic lines of Higher Potential?
Unbelievable the things we read here...
I am now for sure that you are running out of classic proof from "out there"...
Why don't you finally give up...recognize there is absolutely "no where to go"...
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also with Dual Guns...and I will apply same deflection force as He did at frame 1:58...but for TWO Simultaneous Beams...we will have something like shown below:

And so, we will end up with exactly TWO SEMI-CIRCLES for that NORTH POLE...A very, very similar type of Curvilinear Geometry as we all see on Ferrocells...except Ferrocell Lens will show all Curves involved in one single pole...while here we only have two Guns to reveal two curvilinear vectors of force...PLUS, as Markoul mentioned before...Ferrocells would also show the overlapped LOWER POLE (South in this case) at bottom of image.
Now, if we would have multiple Electron Guns...with same NORTH POLE We will have an image like shown below:

Doesn't it looks like what Ferrocell shows Us for ONE SINGLE POLE? (without Bottom Pole Overlapped.)
Regards
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Thanks Bistander,Originally posted by bistander View PostHi Ufo,
Seems simple to me.
Case 1: N pole approaches from left side, beam deflects down.
Case 2: N pole approaches from right side, beam deflects up.
The magnetic field changed direction; in case 1, B vector points to the right. In case 2, B vector points to the left. So the deflection is opposite between case 1 and case 2. Right hand rule works in both cases without breaking any fingers.
Regards,
bi
BTW. In 2nd video, at 1:01, he flips the magnet and the S pole approaches from the left. The beam deflects upwards. Here he has reversed the B vector just the same as approaching with N from the right side. The right hand rule still applies.
However, realize that the "Right Hand Rule" is just a "Reference Guide" to help people predict where beam would deflect...but it does not tells Us WHY is this BEAM DEFLECTION in such fashion?
Lorentz shows the Three Axis all in square angles...x,y.z...and so uses all 3 to dispose F , B and qV, but like I wrote previously in another post, BEAM NEVER DEFLECTS in SQUARE ANGLES, but in a CURVILINEAR FASHION, which is very smooth WITHOUT ABSOLUTELY ANY RADICAL, SQUARE ANGLES.
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Hand job
Hi Ufo,Originally posted by Ufopolitics View PostHello to All,
I will go over the two videos which were presented before...related to Magnetic Fields deflecting E-Beam from a CRT.
1- The First video:
[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18-QdfoLBVk&feature=youtu.be[/VIDEO]
2- Second videoWhat I wonder why, Is that none of the two teachers, show A NORTH APPROACH FROM THE RIGHT SIDE OF CRT TUBE ?
Yes, and I mean same "arrow" pointing NORTH to beam as on left side...same height (center, same height as beam)...but approaching from RIGHT SIDE?
Maybe some of you do not know where beam would deflect...if that same NORTH POINTING ARROW, approaches BUT, from the RIGHT SIDE of the CRT-BEAM?
Now, the "Right Hand Rule" explains this deflection from the Left Side with beam deflecting down on second video (2:45)...and our hands thumb points up...so force is wrong...but, hey, electron is charged negatively (-)...so force goes the "opposite way" as our thumbs are pointing to...so, ok that's fine, is ok.
Then as concluding this "hand dilemma", right hand rule is used for positively charged particles...not electrons, which are negatively charged, so force is at opposite of the thumb direction.
So, now let's approach magnet's NORTH from the RIGHT SIDE of CRT Beam...and what happens?...do you think beam would deflect downwards as well?...same way as when NORTH was approached from LEFT SIDE?
Sorry, but beam would deflect UPWARDS, when we approach SAME NORTH POLE, but from the RIGHT SIDE of the E- BEAM.
Now, sorry, but how do we use our "Right Hand" here ? ...Do we have to actually "brake" our middle finger to bend in the Field direction?...but still...our Thumb will still point upwards...and according to previous conclusion...we have to revert the direction of Thumb...right?...because is a "negatively charged particle"?
Then according to all the above...our right hand will not serve to understand this North-Right approach...use our left hand then?
Still, with left hand our thumb points UP, and it should be reversed...still is same electron negatively charged right?
Concluding...it is better not to "confuse students" and ONLY Approach Magnetic Forces from the Left Side of CRT Tube...
If you Bistander could explain it...please be my guest...
Regards
Ufopolitics
Seems simple to me.
Case 1: N pole approaches from left side, beam deflects down.
Case 2: N pole approaches from right side, beam deflects up.
The magnetic field changed direction; in case 1, B vector points to the right. In case 2, B vector points to the left. So the deflection is opposite between case 1 and case 2. Right hand rule works in both cases without breaking any fingers.
Regards,
bi
BTW. In 2nd video, at 1:01, he flips the magnet and the S pole approaches from the left. The beam deflects upwards. Here he has reversed the B vector just the same as approaching with N from the right side. The right hand rule still applies.
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