ENLIGHTENED MAGNETISM (The Full Proof of Ken Wheeler's Theories)

[bistander]

Magnetic viewing film

Hi Ufo,

I found some additional references to support my (and Ernst's) view on the film.

This green magnetic viewing film will become lighter or darker when a magnetic field is applied. It turns dark when the field lines are perpendicular the surface, and it turns light when the field lines are horizontal, i.e., across the surface. If a magnet is placed under it, with one of the poles facing the film, it will show the magnet as dark with a light outline.

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Sometimes also known as Green Magnet Viewing Film, the Film changes colour as a result of interaction with the lines of magnetic field passing through the Magnetic Viewing Film. The Green Magnetic Viewing Film is a thin flexible sheet containing colloidal Nickel flakes suspended in oil as gelatinous microcapsules coated onto the plastic sheet. The nickel flakes, being ferromagnetic, align with the lines of magnetic flux (the magnetic field lines); they can rotate freely because of the gelatinous microcapsules.

Magnetic Viewing Film - e-Magnets UK

Concerning the light lines seen on the viewing film, refer to my recent post and the FEMM of the disc magnet. Notice the graph to the right of it. It breaks down the flux vector into the horizontal component (x comp, purple trace, parallel to the film) and the vertical component (y comp, green trace, perpendicular to the film). So when viewing the film from above, it looks like this:


The y component or green trace is the perpendicular flux through the film. The graph clearly shows it being zero at .25 inches. Hence the light circle of one half inch diameter on the one half inch diameter magnet. The rest of the film is dark because there is perpendicular flux shown by the non-zero values of y.

I took the image of the viewing film from Ben's post #208 video at 8:25 min. BTW, I disagree with the fellow in the video when he claims the light circle on the viewing film is caused by edge currents in the magnet.

That was found here: https://www.kjmagnetics.com/blog.asp...nets-are-weird

Towards the bottom of that page there is an explanation and diagram of a small disc on a large one.

The white circle seen on the viewing film around the edge of the disc magnet is due to the flux bending tightly around the edge heading to the opposite pole and not traveling perpendicular upwards to the film.

Regards,

bi

[Ben2503]

This is a PM I received from Member Partzman here:




In the video Partzman conducts a very simple and short experiment that I recommend you guys take a look at.


Regards


Ufopolitics

Now that's puzzling

[Ufopolitics]

Previous Disruptive Post Response.NOW

[Ben2503]

all fools

Hi Ben,
I already went into this in an earlier post. The iron changes into a magnet along the lines of force. Next this magnet distorts the original field, but also the magnet created in the ball continuously adapts to its new location in the field.
Proof?
The iron filings do not move to the magnet. They are so small that their magnetic field does not distort the primary magnetic field and therefore they do not experience sufficient sideways force.

Correct me if I am wrong, so the classical model shows lines of force only correctly when the object in the field are small enough and do not disturb the field?

So there are ideal magnets and non-ideal ones?
This strikes me as a bit of a poor response, Ben.
I can see where this is going, any magnet that obeys classical theory is not an ideal magnet. An ideal magnet obeys your/Ken's/UFO's theory, but unfortunately ideal things do not exist....
Who said "een beetje jammer"?

I wanted to keep the earth magnetic behavior out of this discussion as it differs too much from the magnets this thread is about.
I suggest that if you want to visit the north pole you better not rely on your compass.

What surprises me is that people who do not understand the classical theories sometimes create much more complicated fairy tale theories and cling on to those as if their lifes depend on it. Then everyone who tries to explain the classical theory is a 'pedantic nay sayer', or a government paid shill, and people who do not immediately agree are not open-minded. People dumb eachother down, and create communities of fools, often led by one major fool who is a torrent of flash-words in sentences that no one understands (or some understand in their own way) and actually do not have any meaning.

I don't see any difference in behavior between the 'pedantic nay sayers' and some of the people on this thread. My take on this is:
"Fools think they know it all, the wiseman knows we are all just ignorant fools"

It does not P me off, but it does worry me, and I wonder if this development can not be curved into a more fruitful one.

That is entirely up to you.

Best regards,
Ben

[Ufopolitics]

Hi Ben,
I'll try to avoid discussion and just respond to your post. If that P's anybody off, just say the word and I am out of here.

Hey Ernst,

You are responding to Ben's Post then giving third opinions which directly points out to the material being presented on this Thread by Me.

Therefore, it is the same BS, except now "you are talking to Ben".

I am NOT going to ignore you, by allowing you to post whatever you want this "new way".

The iron filings do not move to the magnet. They are so small that their magnetic field does not distort the primary magnetic field and therefore they do not experience sufficient sideways force.

Of course the iron filings don't distort magnetic field from magnet, they get INFLUENCED, ATTRACTED and INDUCED by a much stronger field, adopting the shape that magnet will expand to, according to the REAL FIELD surrounding it, which is not shown by iron filings display.

Iron Filings will always group in majority around the stronger regions of magnet, meaning extreme poles ends.
The "arcs" displayed between poles are just magnetic bridges since filings become small magnets by induction/influence from main spatial field.

It really does not requires that much intelligence to dissect/understand this Theory in a few minutes.

I can see where this is going, any magnet that obeys classical theory is not an ideal magnet. An ideal magnet obeys your/Ken's/UFO's theory, but unfortunately ideal things do not exist....
Who said "een beetje jammer"?

You can NOT "ASSume" "where this is going", this what?...this Thread?

This Thread is presented by me, not by Ben, so stop the BS of being "indirect".

I hate that and YES it DOES PISS ME OFF!

What surprises me is that people who do not understand the classical theories sometimes create much more complicated fairy tale theories and cling on to those as if their lifes depend on it.

WHO WILL NOT UNDERSTAND (ON THIS FORUM, ON THIS THREAD) SUCH A LOUSY AND SIMPLE THEORY?

Even an eight years old child would understand it the first time explained.

Then everyone who tries to explain the classical theory is a 'pedantic nay sayer', or a government paid shill.

Like I wrote above, this stupid Theory is so simple, so easy to understand that "someone" coming here to try to explain it to anyone else here...is considered AN INSULT TO OUR INTELLIGENCE...

And IF YOU come here trying to insult others INTELLIGENCE as the thread owner, HOW DO YOU EXPECT TO BE TREATED?


SIMPLE ENOUGH?

and people who do not immediately agree are not open-minded.

That was exactly the FIRST POST I WROTE ON THIS THREAD...

TO ENGAGE YOUR F****** BRAIN WITH YOUR F****** FINGERS, BEFORE THROWING ANY COMMENTS HERE.

BUT YOU HAVE EITHER NOT READ THAT...OR ARE JUST TRYING TO CREATE A PISS OFF CONTEST HERE?.

People dumb eachother down, and create communities of fools, often led by one major fool who is a torrent of flash-words in sentences that no one understands (or some understand in their own way) and actually do not have any meaning.

That is EXACTLY the way I see the rest of the stupids who still believe BLINDLY in such BS as is thies Classic Belony.

It does not P me off,

BUT IT DOES PISS ME OFF YOUR INSISTING ATTITUDE TO F*** HERE!!ERNST.

but it does worry me, and I wonder if this development can not be curved into a more fruitful one.

Have a glass of quantum foam and let's counter-toast on stupidity.

Ernst.

What are U GONNA DO, when it DOES "CURVE" into excellent resulkts yor small brain will NOT be able to discern?

Are U GONNA ask for apologies?

Because they absolutely WOULD NOT be accepted.

You are NOT welcome here, I dont like your sneaky attitude to say things here.

Bistander is NOT in agreement with this theory, but WATCH the way he directs to me.

Then watch the way I address back to him.

Maybe one day you will grow up to that behavior.

But now, like I wrote before...just be a By Stander here.

[Ernst]

Hi Ben,
I'll try to avoid discussion and just respond to your post. If that P's anybody off, just say the word and I am out of here.

Correct, if there is no friction between the compass and the surface it's on, it will indeed move to the magnet in an east-west direction. This is what you see in most video's.

First I did not understand your remark, as I have never seen my compass depart to the East or West. But then I realized you were not talking about the Earth's magnetic field but about that of a nearby magnet. Then for a second I must admit you managed to induce some doubt... very well done! But further analysis reveals the correct answer.
Do you have two bar magnets? If so move them slowly together sideways. You will notice that there is a strong preference to combine in a NS-NS manner instead of sideways.
The sideways attraction occurs mainly because the second magnet distorts the field of the first. This is what your iron ball experiment proves:

A small iron ball will not follow the curved classical lines of force, but moves in a straight line.

I already went into this in an earlier post. The iron changes into a magnet along the lines of force. Next this magnet distorts the original field, but also the magnet created in the ball continuously adapts to its new location in the field.
Proof?
The iron filings do not move to the magnet. They are so small that their magnetic field does not distort the primary magnetic field and therefore they do not experience sufficient sideways force.

Where do you base this assumption on?

Distinti gives you a correct explanation in his video. Why do I think that is correct?
Because it is in line with Faraday's induction law, and mathematically correct.

As I see it, it behaves as two single layer coils. One coil at each end of the magnet.

What happens in the middle of the magnet? Or better, explain what the North coil produces at both ends and what the South coil produces at both ends. And then what happens in the middle?
Next: how is a single layer coil different from those two coils that you see in a permanent magnet? Does that mean there is a way to distinguish between a PM and an EM? (without looking at it of course)

Try a vector analysis of my model and you will see it. As the magnetic field force is an inverse square of the distance, it is probably a very line.

Where is your model?

I am not sure if the earth can be considered as an ideal magnet. The earths magnetic field is notorious for its deviations. In the early days of aviation, there were special magnetic variation maps that helped our aviators to find the right course. It think some of these are still used by survival experts.

So there are ideal magnets and non-ideal ones?
This strikes me as a bit of a poor response, Ben.
I can see where this is going, any magnet that obeys classical theory is not an ideal magnet. An ideal magnet obeys your/Ken's/UFO's theory, but unfortunately ideal things do not exist....
Who said "een beetje jammer"?

I know, but my impression is that UFO appreciates a positive, openminded and respectful discussion. And I agree with him, 'pedantic nay sayers' better start their own thread. They P* me of as well.

What surprises me is that people who do not understand the classical theories sometimes create much more complicated fairy tale theories and cling on to those as if their lifes depend on it. Then everyone who tries to explain the classical theory is a 'pedantic nay sayer', or a government paid shill, and people who do not immediately agree are not open-minded. People dumb eachother down, and create communities of fools, often led by one major fool who is a torrent of flash-words in sentences that no one understands (or some understand in their own way) and actually do not have any meaning. It does not P me off, but it does worry me, and I wonder if this development can not be curved into a more fruitful one.

Have a glass of quantum foam and let's counter-toast on stupidity.

Ernst.

[Ufopolitics]

Hi Ufo,

I'd be interested in your take on animation. If you get the time, please show us.

I have done many 3D Models based on this Theory, animating spinning vortexes to get a common view as it also must match the CRT , View Film, plus Ferrocell images.

The Ferrocell is the Highest 3D Definition of the 3 methods, however, it needs special illumination, plus a very dark room...plus top capturing HD cameras.

I am in the process of developing a new method to see Magnetic Fields in 3D, in real time from an old back projection TV which have the three RGB electron beam guns, am planning to aim them in the 3D Axis, having the "object" to be screened at the 0,0,0 coordinates or origin (intersection of three rays). Then also observing it through Ferrocell lens.

Interesting how the FEMM images of field flux look so much like the shape of the iron filings.

Regards,

bi

But of course it will look exactly like the iron filings...

Finite Element Method Magnetics (FEMM) is just a simulator Software which Matrix has been programmed according to the "one and only" screening method Pattern we have been using for 200 years!

It would be very weird and strange that it will render Ken's Theory geometry...

We could program Lua Language used by FEMM to use the 3D Logarithms to extrude, to revolve, surface and trace curves, etc,etc... based on any magnetic model we code.

For example, given below...FEMM makes the following interaction in Repulse Mode:

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That is exactly the way Repulsion looks under iron filings...except the program adds the progressing curves to animate interaction frames based on pre-coded 2D displacements.


Regards


Ufopolitics

[bistander]

God only knows?

The pictures are clear, conventional is based on iron filings and
what might be the way the magnet fields look, God only knows
presentation at the college level.

What? The students and instructors know. And anyone can find out. Just read a text book. Or, many professors post their lecture notes on-line so they pop up on google all the time. Just look.

[bistander]

... I can make such a VIVID 3D Drawing of exactly what is going on there, animated...as it occurs in reality.

Hi Ufo,

I'd be interested in your take on animation. If you get the time, please show us.

I did post some interesting animations of FEMM back in this post:

I found an interesting graphic here: Magnets in Motion



So now click here to see how the fields behave in animation. Magnets in Motion 01

Interesting how the FEMM images of field flux look so much like the shape of the iron filings.

Regards,

bi

[Ben2503]

not completely

Ok, we have both guessed wrong where the other comes from. It does not have anything to do with the subject at hand but I thought the phrase "pedante kwast" sounds south-ish.

Hi Ernst.
I initially thought you were from Belgium

I assume that "in static mode" means that the compass is at rest. It has stopped rotating and is now pointing N-S or S-N if you wish.
When an object (any object) is not changing its state of motion (not accelerating, not decelerating and not changing direction) then the sum of all forces in ALL directions is zero.
If this is not the case the object is experiencing a nett force and will therefore be accelerated in the direction of that force (F=m.a).
(I am not sure if my interpretation of this text is correct, but I am trying!)
If there are forces on the far ends of the needle in the same direction (let's say East) and these forces are equal (let's say 1N) then the needle is experiencing a nett force of 2N East. If the needle (and compass) are not moving then the compass must counter this force at the pivot point by a force of 2N West. If that were not the case the needle would fly out of the compass in an East-ward direction.

Correct, if there is no friction between the compass and the surface it's on, it will indeed move to the magnet in an east-west direction. This is what you see in most video's.

A small iron ball will not follow the curved classical lines of force, but moves in a straight line.

That particular part of his theory is indeed true; there is a nett resulting current running around in the magnet, as if it were a single layer coil.

Where do you base this assumption on?
If it is based on the assumption that equal charges repel and hence must be equally distributed at the surface of the magnet, then I am afraid this cannot be assumed in the case of a moving charge. The behavior of spinning charge or matter is totally different from their static behavior.

As I see it, it behaves as two single layer coils. One coil at each end of the magnet.

Extremely illogical. If that were true a magnet would not attract anything that is present at this point. Try playing with a magnet and a ball as Distinti does and find a point along the side of the magnet where the magnet does not attract the iron ball. Also a compass would not work at the equator if that were true, because there would be no magnetic field.

Try a vector analysis of my model and you will see it. As the magnetic field force is an inverse square of the distance, it is probably a very line.

I am not sure if the earth can be considered as an ideal magnet. The earths magnetic field is notorious for its deviations. In the early days of aviation, there were special magnetic variation maps that helped our aviators to find the right course. It think some of these are still used by survival experts.

The one who opens the thread leads the discussion, meaning that he says what does and does not belong here. In this case it is UFO and he has made clear that arguments against Ken's theory do not belong here.

I know, but my impression is that UFO appreciates a positive, openminded and respectful discussion. And I agree with him, 'pedantic nay sayers' better start their own thread. They P* me of as well.

Best regards,
Ben

[BroMikey]

I don't believe there is a main domain wall or dielectric inertial plane or any division of such in the middle of the magnet, PM or EM.

I believe there are millions of domain walls and nothing special about the center of the magnet.

How do you figure? You cling to the conventional theories that say
that there is a center called a bloch wall. So there has to be something
there and we can see many things clearly with the viewer.

PM or EM convention theories state there is a center to every magnet.

So it looks like you are making your own theories as you go since
the presented information does not add up to out dated models.

And then you want to jump all over like a kangaroo asking silly
questions like "WHAT ABOUT A TOROIDAL TRANSFORMER"? You are
acting like a drowning man, grasping at straws.

We can discuss the totoidal shape in the future, calm down
and stick with a simple bar so you don't confuse everybody.

The pictures are clear, conventional is based on iron filings and
what might be the way the magnet fields look, God only knows
presentation at the college level. Sorry I don't mean to laugh.

We are making progress as this is the 21st century and I don't mean
the schools, I mean people who think coming up with new data outside
the school system because the new data is not welcome there.

Am I ringing any bells, guys? The information is piled so high a
super computer couldn't crunch it all so you know the schools
are not going to take on that job as they are preoccupied with
their indoctrination agenda to setup mind control barriers
limiting public knowledge.

It's all about the big me little you, teacher told ya so or let me put it
another way. If the gov run school system admits it was wrong in any
way shape or form they would have to humble themselves and ask
for forgiveness for "THEIR" spewing of stupidity, poluting the minds
of young men and women.

Can you imagine that? The condescending upper strata admit
"THEY" are not all knowings demi gOds, you're joking right? I am painting
a true picture of the highminded attitude on display in the graduates
incubated by the top brass. It is almost funny the way the students
are trained to feel they have it all down pat.

What little we know teaches us to look for a more simplified answer and
I don't mean use that retarded contrivance where students are directed
to throw out all of the complex data streams in favor of pablo.

The highmind is an enemy to intellectual growth, this is the process used
to dumb down, I have stated this repeatedly and seems to go right
over peoples heads because they think this is my way of calling them stupid.

I am not doing that even tho the highmind assumes that I am, can't you
see what I am saying here. The highmind lacks many things.

Knowledge is worthless without understanding or wisdom.

[bistander]

[Ufopolitics]

[Ufopolitics]

Two theories...

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THE CLASSIC THEORY

Above the Classic Theory based on Iron Filings...it is simple, anyone has learned it before...even children know about this...WRONG INFO.

According to iron filings shaping around magnetized iron by electrification...Flux Flow would run from NORTH to SOUTH SPATIALLY while RETURNING through the Iron Mass...

THE REAL THING?

When we electrify a Coil, Any Coil, Any Size, Any Gauge, No matter the Turns...it chooses EXACTLY the CENTER PLANE, specifically the GRAVITATIONAL CENTER POINT of the ferromagnetic mass, defined by the coil length.

From that Point OUTWARDS, FOLLOWING THE STRAIGHT LINE AS IS THE AXIS OF COIL-CORE IT STARTS TWO SPATIAL SPINS WHICH ROTATES OPPOSITE TO EACH OTHERS, COMPENSATING AN EQUILIBRIUM.

The same way we Electrify, as we turn Off, the reverse operation takes place...exactly BOTH VORTEXES RETRACT BACK TO THE ORIGINATING CENTER/POINT.

THE SAME WAY AS WE ELECTROMAGNETIZE ANY FERROMAGNETIC MATERIAL/CORE TO MAKE IT A PERMANENT MAGNET...SAME OUTPUT CHARACTERISTICS...EXCEPT, IT IS "STAMPED" PERPETUALLY DUE TO MUCH HIGHER ELECTRIFICATION CURRENTS.

Nature draws lines, curves, spirals that way...from center outwards.(<------------o-------------->)

We write a line either from left to right...or right to left...never from center to right-left. (0-------------> or <---------------0)


Regards


Ufopolitics

[Ufopolitics]

Hi Ufo,

I disagree. It is not another way of "just saying" Faraday's Law. Faraday's Law relates the change in magnetic field to induced voltage and says nothing about the force of attraction or repulsion.

From: Faraday's Law

Faraday's Law WAS NOT WRITTEN BY FARADAY!!

It was written years after...many years, and of course, FOLLOWING a so VERY GENERAL WAY IT "APPLIES" TO ALMOST EVERY MAGNETIC PHENOMENA!

Same exact "Technique" utilized by LAW FIRMS whenever Filing A PATENT.

You must read the very Old Books about Faraday's Own words, and his Experiments. Only then you will learn how everything got "twisted"...to date.

Much like you demonstrated in your video except you were moving the coil on the magnet, but there was no attraction, was there? If there was, it was not part of that particular experiment.

Of course there was attraction. Attraction between Magnetic Field to Ferromagnetic Material.

Is called Ferromagnetic Voidance...

And on the subject of the magnetic viewing film, Mr. Ardizzone and I are saying the same thing essentially. No flux lines cutting the film shows as light areas.



Above is a view of 2 magnets with like poles repelling. Note how the lines of iron filings travel upwards through the red line representing the edge view of the magnetic viewing film. The entire area between the magnets is loaded with flux cutting the film leaving no light area.



Now is a view of 2 magnets with opposite poles attracting. Note how the iron filings cut through very little if any of the red line in the middle of the space between the magnets. The lack of magnetic flux cutting through the film in the middle area causes the light line down the middle of the viewing film. There is still plenty of flux linking the attracting poles, but it just doesn't travel through the film.

Based on your description above...It would never, ever would display like it does on View Film, based on the way you are imagining...it will never be a THIN AND STRAIGHT, WELL DEFINED LINE, BUT A BLENDED, SOFTLY BLENDED BLEMISH.

Did you ever take 3D Projective Geometry?

I DID!...And I can make such a VIVID 3D Drawing of exactly what is going on there, animated...as it occurs in reality.

Not just with a red marker over my image.

Now, TALK TO ME...Tell me about CRT Screening...tell me how the Electron Beam Gun is deflecting that SAME particular Imaging as Viewing Film?...

PURE "COINCIDENCE"?......

In fact you demonstrated that there was flux in between the attracting magnets in post #212 video with your magnetic field probe, remember?

Regards,

bi

, I demonstrated the "supposed way" in order for you guys to understand how it behaves within the "Non Existing Lines of Force"...

Actually what was taking place there was just a N/S>>N/S>>N/S Chain, where my "probe"/was the N/S in the middle, between both rectangular magnets. You could move that small center magnet(probe) straight through without making any flips.




Ufopolitics