ENLIGHTENED MAGNETISM (The Full Proof of Ken Wheeler's Theories)

[Ufopolitics]

from wiki:

t is a translucent thin flexible sheet, coated with micro-capsules containing nickel flakes suspended in oil.[1] When magnetic lines of force are parallel to the surface of the carrier sheet, the surfaces of the flakes are reflective, and appear bright. When lines of force are perpendicular to the sheet, the flakes are edge-on, and appear significantly darker. When the film is placed on a magnet's pole, the latter case applies.

That should help to understand what you see using that film.

from YT:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slVL5nbTXd4

Ernst.

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SO NOW TELL US ALL HERE GENIUS...WHY IF THE LINES OF FORCE ARE PARALLEL TO VIEWING FILM...THERE IS THIS LIGHTER STRIPE RIGHT AT EXACT CENTER SPACE BETWEEN BOTH ARC SEGMENTS?

Aren't all the flakes on top of that center space supposed to be positioned in a uniform alignment? So according to that Theory they supposedly be all shaded evenly...whatever darker or lighter.

Maybe a defect from factory?...The Flakes got stuck in the oil...for that precise region?



Actually Viewing Film is CONTRADICTING THE VERY EVEN LINES OF FORCE that supposedly travel from pole to pole...?

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So according to the Theory of the flakes in Oil, lighter/darker...then the above picture tells us that Lines of Force" are EMANATING from the very CENTER of the cube magnet above going two directions upper/lower.?

While the lighter stripe at center is where they are parallel to film?

DON'T MAKE SENSE UH?

Listen Ernst, while you were constructing Tesla Coils...I have been working on MAGNETISM and ELECTRODYNAMICS and then some BIG time prior to it.

I have not idea what went wrong with your sudden frustrations and those experiments, but it is not my problem at all.

[ldrancer]

you guys dont explain why a magnet works. you describe a transmission. not an engine. it has no power on its own. so how does it do what it does, why does it attract things at a distance, i mean, how? you explain a transmission and put some crap in the middle and then come up with a bunch of fake words for the entire thing then call it all a motor.

i was saying this and when you couldnt even start to begin to get one word in edgewise against me when you tried to pick apart my whole response you guys have ignored me. i take this as Im right and I really get tired of reading this thread with no movement forward, and it seems one guy, is trying ot reason with you guys.

it seems stupid, becuase you guys pretty much believe the earht is flat becuase you explain the working of a transmission but CLAIM its A MOTOR. ITS NOT. it needs other things to push it and to pull it. You dont understand how a magnet works. END OF THE STUPID TOPIC. ken wheeler is a black hole pusher just trying to put it in other words by destroying every word every description of it. you dont think theres a big market for this? proving black holes and every LIE about everyting? yea there is, cern, the big bang scientists grants. THere no proving or moving forward NOTHING> ken wheeler has never shown anything I said to be wrong. He only will attack me and call me names on little thoughts not big ones.

SO im tired of reading you and your continuing on without refuting me and only ignoring me cause you couldnt get a word in edgewise.

BUt who cares go get your greenpeace and yoru big bang grants you shills. you are worth 0 to the improvment of mankind. even talking to these idiots is a waste of time. Ou explain once, but if they dont take what you say and apply it to their own continue tests then hell with it. theyre paid shills..

so whatever ok all of you. tired of reading your crap, you prove nothing you are showing a trasnmission and you dont know how a magnet works. you show no input or output. ITS A TRANSMISSION not a motor. you believe the world is flat. you promote big bang and black holes. end of discussion

[Ernst]

magnetic viewing film

from wiki:

It is a translucent thin flexible sheet, coated with micro-capsules containing nickel flakes suspended in oil.[1] When magnetic lines of force are parallel to the surface of the carrier sheet, the surfaces of the flakes are reflective, and appear bright. When lines of force are perpendicular to the sheet, the flakes are edge-on, and appear significantly darker. When the film is placed on a magnet's pole, the latter case applies.

That should help to understand what you see using that film.

from YT:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slVL5nbTXd4

Ernst.

[Ernst]

Hi Ernst.
IMHO your explanation fits to the first part of the video, which is somewhat confusing as UFO apparatus has pointers that basically point in an east-west direction. So if you look carefully, it is actually confirming the field lines as would be indicated by a compass. However on the second part, where he turned the magnets 90 degrees, it gives the same indications as the viewing film.
I do recall a measurement with a flux meter that gave the same indication, a null reading right in the middle of the magnet, but also in the centerline of the magnets.
You may want to watch this guy. In my view he is spot on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sUP_iL6NIU
Best regards,
Ben

OMG!!! Just as I was starting to feel a bit awkward being here, for all the so called evidence is so easily and naturally refuted, you come up with this idiotic video.... there is a disease spreading, and it is not that Dutch one! What forces am I up against?
But ok, let's run quickly (hopefully) through this mess that Distinti created...
first pause at 1:19

if you have a like charge it will fly away along the lines of force

Exactly, now why is that? Because the lines of force indicate in what direction the force of the field is acting (remember this). The electric field is a vector field which applies a force on electric charges, + go in one direction, - go in the opposite direction and both follow the lines of force. In a gravitational field the forces act on mass and since everything has a positive mass, the forces are always in the same direction.
pause at 1:33

why are the filings not moving along the lines to one side or the other?

Can you answer this now? What would happen if I would use plastic filings? Nothing, right?
So why do iron filings behave different? Because a magnetic field works only on magnetic particles (Duh!) But iron filings are not magnetic! For if they were, they would cling together, wouldn't they? However, they DO get magnetized when in a magnetic field! How does that happen? Well, that can only happen because of the magnetic forces in the field. These forces pull a north pole towards one end and a south pole towards the other end in every little piece of iron. So naturally the NS line in these particles must be aligned with the magnetic field. And next the N from every particle attracts the S poles from neighbouring particles, forming a chain along the lines of force!
Now to answer the above question: because both poles of each particle are equally attracted but in opposite direction!
Any child could answer this, or am I wrong?
at 1:47 he actually draws this conclusion, yet he completely fails to understand the underlying principle.
at 2:47 an important remark:

we can be easily fooled by what we see

So true!
at 4:30 the bar-ball experiment
Same error as explained before, he is using an iron ball that can continuously adopt its magnetic field to the outside field. It simply does not work that way!
We are going against the lines of force???? No we are following the lines while the iron ball adapts its magnetism. On the side of the magnet. Hooray! it did not follow the flux lines!
The ball becomes a magnet in the opposite direction, the horizontal forces cancel out, the upward force remains!
How hard can it be to understand something so simple!
at 5:05 another important conclusion:

come on this is ridiculous

Now that is spot on!
at 5:55:

humans have it backwards...

Let him speak for himself, PLEASE!
at 6:08

Don't fall for the voodoo explanations

Then why do this video, if you don't want anyone to believe in it?
at 6:37

that is a disconnection between action and reaction

Not true, add up ALL the forces and you will see there is no disconnection at all.
at 6:42:

Action and reaction will have to be in the same place

Who told you that? That can not possibly be true because that would make all (change of) motions impossible. If I were to push a door (action) then the door would also feel a reaction force cancelling out my push, and the door will remain motionless no matter how hard I push.
at 8:02 the disk-ball experiment
The ball goes right to the edge! Of course, remember what I said about iron? It turns into a magnet along the lines of force. So put the ball in the middle of a north pole, the lower half will become S and the top will become N. This top N is attracted by the other side of the disk magnet! And therefore the ball will move to the edge where the magnet N and S are closest together and also, for that same reason the field is strongest!
Now can you look me in the eyes and tell me this is difficult to grasp?
I am at 1/3 of the video now and my hopes for humanity are fading.
Do I have to continue?


Ernst.

[Ufopolitics]

Hello to All,

[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCAWPIRc7q0[/VIDEO]

ANALYZING MAGNETIC SENSOR BEHAVIOR

Ok, above is an Unlisted Video just for this Thread only (I have no intentions to broadcast it on YouTube since must of my subscribers will have no idea what's going on here...

On this video I am showing the way this Magnetic Seeker Sensor reacts under some fields influence...


Hoping this will Enlighten some minds.


Ufopolitics

[Ufopolitics]

Nice Video...

Hi Ernst.
IMHO your explanation fits to the first part of the video, which is somewhat confusing as UFO apparatus has pointers that basically point in an east-west direction. So if you look carefully, it is actually confirming the field lines as would be indicated by a compass. However on the second part, where he turned the magnets 90 degrees, it gives the same indications as the viewing film.
I do recall a measurement with a flux meter that gave the same indication, a null reading right in the middle of the magnet, but also in the centerline of the magnets.
You may want to watch this guy. In my view he is spot on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sUP_iL6NIU
Best regards,
Ben

Hello Ben,

Nice video, same guy like previous , and I do agree with him, basically about the Non Real Model rendered by the iron filings "Lines of Force".

However, he ignores that what he calls lines of force when observed through Viewing Film...is the very center division from both poles but seen from above (top view)...if he would have observed sideways with film, would notice they are exactly at the center of the magnet. So, from a wrong concept he starts developing all kind of interactions...which are true to certain extent...but are not the main and stronger forces that rule magnetism...actually that center or top viewed "ring" is the weakest magnetic field part.

Still I see that many smart people are reacting to these ancient methods to observe magnetic fields as rejecting in the open about the WRONG AND NON EXISTING LINES OF FORCE supposedly revealed by iron filings.


Therefore, I give Video a plus, basically for that part.


Thanks and Regards


Ufopolitics

[BroMikey]

You may want to watch this guy. In my view he is spot on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sUP_iL6NIU
Best regards,
Ben

What you have offered here will shatter classical engineering models.
You have amazed me Ben. The man in the video claims
that physicist's play to much with their https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boson funny guy.

He is another thinker, what a wonderful video to find, very refreshing.
My 12year old and I are watching now, he home schools.

The kitty in the video is a bunch of fun too, Jordy says. Mr T, oh yeah.

Thanks Ben

[Ufopolitics]

Back again...

Hello to All,

@BroMikey: First, many thanks Bro, for your constant support and trust in me!
And, yes you were right that Ken's Theory have similar lines as the Model 1, However, like you posted before...In the whole Magnetic Field Drawing like he has below:

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The green flow above, which looks like my drawings and experiment is what he calls "Intermediate Pressure Lines", shown below:

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He explains there those lines do not have enough strength (pressure) to pass the dielectric plane to the opposite end polarization, therefore, both return at center plane.

I have done both 3D CAD CGI of both Structure types as well:

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And:

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However, in either Viewing Film, nor Ferrocell we see a return from pole to pole like in Model 1:

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So, what we see on those imaging through both methods is Model 2 and his original picture, where he leaves this outer lines OPEN, not returning to the other pole...like:

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CRT plus my CGI adapting lines and flow:

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Concluding that so far, even in the CRT Imaging, I have not seen a Model 1 fully revealed...where we could observe lines returning from pole to pole, bypassing through Dielectric Plane.

So, I rather stick to the structure that so far has been revealed by this screening methods (3 types), as well they could be felt through experiments.


Regards


Ufopolitics

[Ben2503]

I also don't know what a magnetic film shows and how it works. I'd have to look that up.
The behaviour of the sensor, I believe, is completely explained by the (many) images on this page of the thread. The sudden flip, if you are referring to that happens because the preferred slow turn has been made impossible. It then always turns the side of the sensor that is most attracted towards the (nearest) point that attracts it.
Just add up all the forces working on both surfaces of the sensor... you will get exactly this behaviour.


Ernst.

Hi Ernst.
IMHO your explanation fits to the first part of the video, which is somewhat confusing as UFO apparatus has pointers that basically point in an east-west direction. So if you look carefully, it is actually confirming the field lines as would be indicated by a compass. However on the second part, where he turned the magnets 90 degrees, it gives the same indications as the viewing film.
I do recall a measurement with a flux meter that gave the same indication, a null reading right in the middle of the magnet, but also in the centerline of the magnets.
You may want to watch this guy. In my view he is spot on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sUP_iL6NIU
Best regards,
Ben

[Ernst]

Hi Ernst.
We can discuss for years which model is the correct one. With my limited capacities, I would say that what the iron fillings show, is just the behavior of iron fillings in a magnetic field. There is nothing wrong or good about it.
The magnetic viewing film shows a different pattern, I am still not sure what it is it shows.

Could you explain the behavior of UFO's sensor as shown in the middle of his video (4:00 to 5:00) to me please?
thanks
Ben

I also don't know what a magnetic film shows and how it works. I'd have to look that up.
The behaviour of the sensor, I believe, is completely explained by the (many) images on this page of the thread. The sudden flip, if you are referring to that happens because the preferred slow turn has been made impossible. It then always turns the side of the sensor that is most attracted towards the (nearest) point that attracts it.
Just add up all the forces working on both surfaces of the sensor... you will get exactly this behaviour.


Ernst.

[Ernst]

You shouldn't be frustrated. As history shows, the Dutch disease did work.
That our beloved PM told a different story, because he could admit giving in to bunch of longhaired, beardy hippies :-), I can understand. He is a politician :-)
the withdrawal of those cruise missiles already in the country was a great succes. Probably the greatest victory in Europe to date, despite of what politicians may say or claim.
That the americans called it the Dutch disease just confirms that they admitted to be defeated and were fearing the spreading of the disease.
If you were an active member of this peace movement, I sincerely thank you for your effort:noteworthy: we enjoy the fruits every day, without the Dutch Disease all of Western Europe would be destroyed and radio active today.

Thanks again

I was but a tiny part of this.... But there were many, many tiny parts....

Ernst.

[ldrancer]

the object magnet and the concept magnet seems here to being switched aroudn with the definitions given. The picture, shows what teh object a magnet is like doing in your own theory which i coudlnt argue with it, but the concept of how a magnet, why it works, isnt explained by that picture and is ridiculous.
like i was saying before in the other thread, its showing a transmission, not a motor. where is in input on the magnet. it's doing pulling right? so where is the power for this coming from? it doesnt show, and a transmission won't explain it. that picture of the arrows and stuff, explains a transmission. not a magnet like the thing that attracts and pushes away. just the black stick bar with a n and s and half painted red.

[Jeff Pearson]

It appears to me the film is showing the actual fields. The filings show the EFFECTS of the fields but not the fields themselves. Both are correct in what they are showing. My 2 cents......and also, UFOs graphic MATCHES Tesla's decription of rotating magnetic fields

[Ben2503]

explain the video

Ok UFO,
What I have done is....
- searched for an iron filings image here
- took your "wrong path" image and scaled it to this image
- took your "right path" image and scaled it in the same way
- I flipped the "right path" image vertically so that it appears in the lower half of the image
- I over-layed the iron filings image with your graphics (sorry for the distortion)

That image you can find in the attachments to this post.
What you can see now is that the iron filings do not support your "wrong path" image, but instead match perfectly with the "right path" image.

So in short, I agree with your graphics, but they do not differentiate between the model 1 and your theory.
So model 1 is still upheld. No condolences needed .


Ernst.

Hi Ernst.
We can discuss for years which model is the correct one. With my limited capacities, I would say that what the iron fillings show, is just the behavior of iron fillings in a magnetic field. There is nothing wrong or good about it.
The magnetic viewing film shows a different pattern, I am still not sure what it is it shows.

Could you explain the behavior of UFO's sensor as shown in the middle of his video (4:00 to 5:00) to me please?
thanks
Ben

[Ben2503]

Hi Bi,

You show me the flux pattern of an air core coil. But, ehr... why?

@Ben,
I was part of that "Dutch disease"...
But I came out very disillusioned. In response to our protests the Dutch government gave Russia an ultimatum... As if a superpower would respond to a tiny country such as ours!!!
But Russia DID They actually accepted our proposal!
So what happened next? Our PM gave this speech:
"I have hoped and prayed that it would not be necessary, but Russia responded too late..."
Which was not true, they accepted and they accepted in time.
But what else could our PM do? The missiles were already installed a few months before the official decision was made.... and even before our protests....

My faith in our government has never recovered....


Ernst.

You shouldn't be frustrated. As history shows, the Dutch disease did work.
That our beloved PM told a different story, because he could admit giving in to bunch of longhaired, beardy hippies :-), I can understand. He is a politician :-)
the withdrawal of those cruise missiles already in the country was a great succes. Probably the greatest victory in Europe to date, despite of what politicians may say or claim.
That the americans called it the Dutch disease just confirms that they admitted to be defeated and were fearing the spreading of the disease.
If you were an active member of this peace movement, I sincerely thank you for your effort:noteworthy: we enjoy the fruits every day, without the Dutch Disease all of Western Europe would be destroyed and radio active today.

Thanks again