An important test not shown...The Dark Side of the Moon.
Hello to All,
I will go over the two videos which were presented before...related to Magnetic Fields deflecting E-Beam from a CRT.
1- The First video:
[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18-QdfoLBVk&feature=youtu.be[/VIDEO]
2- Second videoWhat I wonder why, Is that none of the two teachers, show A NORTH APPROACH FROM THE RIGHT SIDE OF CRT TUBE ?
Yes, and I mean same "arrow" pointing NORTH to beam as on left side...same height (center, same height as beam)...but approaching from RIGHT SIDE?
Maybe some of you do not know where beam would deflect...if that same NORTH POINTING ARROW, approaches BUT, from the RIGHT SIDE of the CRT-BEAM?
Now, the "Right Hand Rule" explains this deflection from the Left Side with beam deflecting down on second video (2:45)...and our hands thumb points up...so force is wrong...but, hey, electron is charged negatively (-)...so force goes the "opposite way" as our thumbs are pointing to...so, ok that's fine, is ok.
Then as concluding this "hand dilemma", right hand rule is used for positively charged particles...not electrons, which are negatively charged, so force is at opposite of the thumb direction.
So, now let's approach magnet's NORTH from the RIGHT SIDE of CRT Beam...and what happens?...do you think beam would deflect downwards as well?...same way as when NORTH was approached from LEFT SIDE?
Sorry, but beam would deflect UPWARDS, when we approach SAME NORTH POLE, but from the RIGHT SIDE of the E- BEAM.
Now, sorry, but how do we use our "Right Hand" here ? ...Do we have to actually "brake" our middle finger to bend in the Field direction?...but still...our Thumb will still point upwards...and according to previous conclusion...we have to revert the direction of Thumb...right?...because is a "negatively charged particle"?
Then according to all the above...our right hand will not serve to understand this North-Right approach...use our left hand then?
Still, with left hand our thumb points UP, and it should be reversed...still is same electron negatively charged right?
Concluding...it is better not to "confuse students" and ONLY Approach Magnetic Forces from the Left Side of CRT Tube...
If you Bistander could explain it...please be my guest...
Regards
Ufopolitics
Announcement
Collapse
No announcement yet.
ENLIGHTENED MAGNETISM (The Full Proof of Ken Wheeler's Theories)
Collapse
X
-
Ufopolitics,
Thank you for your advise and tuning me in your thoughts and your expert opinion.
I fully understand now and agree.
Also I was I admit absolute about the 2D surface of the ferrocell of course it is not mathematically a 2D surface and has a depth on it therefore it is also allowing us to extract some depth of field information as I previously stated in my posts and you perfectly described.
Best Regards,
EM
Leave a comment:
-
Hello Markoul,Originally posted by Markoul View PostDear Ufopolitics,
I couldn't agree more with you on that and you said it wonderfully . However I must say this "lowest potential" term brings confusion. In the ferrocell but as well CRT the flux trajectories closer to the body of the magnet are actually the highest potential of the field (it is well known fact in physics that the strongest field vectors are the shortest in distance from the source). As you go further in distance from the magnet, flux lines shown represent lower potentials of the magnetic dipole field. The magnetic field strength as you know for the far field is diminishing with distance with the inverse cube law for a dipole magnet.
Understand, that field of magnet consists of many of these layers or shells of flux like an onion filling completely the 3D space around a magnet and its radius of influence.
Ferrocell is not showing lowest or highest potential shells of magnetic field but because it is a single 2D surface in space every time depending its distance from the magnet, one slice only or shell of the 3D magnetic field is magnetically projected on the 2D surface of the ferrocell. And by meaning surface of the ferrocell I am not referring to the glass but to the the microns thin film of ferrofluid encapsulated inside the ferrolens (i.e. two glasses of ferrocell).
Hope, this clarifies things.
Kind Regards,
EM
First, just one healthy recommendation...please do not waste your time and energy with Nuts People here...there are plenty...just IGNORE THEM, trust me...is the best way to keep going forward...
Now getting back into the discussion...IMHO, lower and higher magnetic potentials is not referring to be closer or further away from the magnetic source (that is understandable and non debatable from my end)...but instead it refers to all the curved lines and the spaces "in between".
When we set a magnet in a color CRT, that previously we have set screen to FULL WHITE...Magnetic Field different force gradients (lo-mid-hi) brakes the White Light Spectrum according to the different potentials into the RGB Colors...while the areas which remains in white...are all those of lower potential.
Why?...simple, magnetic forces are not strong enough to disperse the white light into scattered colors on those areas.
Now, when we set magnet in Ferrocell, the opposite to above Color CRT takes place...meaning lower potential areas are the darkest ones.
Remember that even within the outlined by brighter color curvilinear higher potential forces... we have gradients of centrifugal plus centripetal forces, so, even at this higher levels, we have hierarchies according to their traveling paths...even though it is the same circular portion of the Two 3D Sphere.
Now, related to 2D and 3D...
Remember that a 2D Plane, could -easily- project a 3D Imaging!!...this is not new...all 35mm Film in a 3D MAX Projector...is a 2D FRAME Celluloid 35 or 70 mm Film.
Ferrocell blocks the light to Lower Field Potential Areas, allowing you to ONLY see the Higher Field Potential Side...by allowing light to pass through forming an Image to the viewer (same as a Camera does)
Hope you understand me better now.
Regards
UfopoliticsLast edited by Ufopolitics; 05-06-2018, 06:15 PM.
Leave a comment:
-
sorry but I can't help it... I have to LOL here... although I must confess I like nuts!Now I am fully convinced you DO are completely nuts.
Therefore we do not need here "Nuts Opinions", they will get us nowhere...but into more confusion.
The subject is complex as it is in a perfectly smooth conversation, without "nuts opinions"...
Leave a comment:
-
You are right on that flux lines are imaginary mathematical construction showing motion therajectory under the influence of magnetic force lines of any point origin in 3D space.
So in reality magnetic field resembels actually a solid 3D object in space essentially spherical in nature.
So you can say field of magnet consists of infinite numbers of flux lines since there is infinite number of points in space of influence of a magnet...
Nevertheless the good stuff with the ferrocell is because it is using point light sources thus LEDs and magnetic field appears on the ferrocell wherever intense light is shined upon, it can depict the actual flux lines and therefore show a wire-frame of the field!!
This is important when studying the field because of the counter skew angles of the flux on the different oposite poles of the magnet we can observe the counter rotational geometry on the N and S vortex-toroid field of a magnet.
Also notice that in contrast with transverse EM waves, static field strength of magnet reduces with distance not with the inverse square law but with the inverse cube law.Last edited by Markoul; 05-06-2018, 06:02 PM.
Leave a comment:
-
A Really "Nut" Opinion...
And I think you have not written here nothing like the above which really portraits and goes more in accordance with your name.Originally posted by Iamnuts View PostI think the idea of field lines is total rubbish anyway.
The best guess I have is that the field strength would
act in accordance with the inverse square law so
tbe ferrocell images are useless.
John.
Now I am fully convinced you DO are completely nuts.
Therefore we do not need here "Nuts Opinions", they will get us nowhere...but into more confusion.
The subject is complex as it is in a perfectly smooth conversation, without "nuts opinions"...
Ufopolitics
Leave a comment:
-
Originally posted by Iamnuts View Posthttps://youtu.be/rUZsojDdEbE
You can get loads of different patterns.
I need dialectic on the dielectric.
NOPE, WRONG...You do NOT get "loads of DIFFERENT Patterns"...NEGATIVE!
You just need a GOOD BRAIN, which could PROCESS every single pattern into a SINGLE TRIDIMENSIONAL SPATIAL MODEL.
And here I understand that not all Brains can process all this patterns to see the FULL PICTURE.
Ufopolitics
Leave a comment:
-
Saturation
Originally Posted by Ufopolitics View Post
... by allowing light to pass through the lower saturated part of the ferrofluid.
Hello Bistander,Originally posted by bistander View PostHi Ufo,
In your first paragraph, a couple things need further explanation in my opinion. Many ferrocells use edge lighting with opaque backing. How is light passing through?
Light propagation is Radial, spherical in 3D (unless we add conical reflectors to force it directional, NOT the case of LED), the LED's are located around the Ferrocell, however, that does not void light from going everywhere, and also to the magnet, no matter if magnet is above or below...it will be illuminated as well.
Nope, I am NOT talking about Magnetic Saturation.Originally posted by bistander View PostAre you speaking about magnetic saturation? Of the ferrofluid in the cell? Can nanoparticles saturate? Aren't all the dipoles in the particle already aligned?
Saturation as in Chemical Saturation.Originally posted by bistander View PostOr are you speaking of the combination of particles, in which case, wouldn't saturation just be alignment?
Exactly, saturated means "full"...but not exactly that term "full" applies when we are talking about a whole compound of liquid and ferromagnetic nano particles, compressed to the extent to act-behave as a Gas.Originally posted by bistander View PostLower saturated? I don't understand. Saturated means full. If it is less full, then it isn't full.
Regards,
bi
Ferromagnetic Particles concentrate at the Magnetic Field areas of lower potential.
Higher Concentration of Particles on Lower Magnetic Potential= Higher Saturated areas on Lower Magnetic Potential.
Then, the "Lower Saturated Areas" (or lower concentration of nano particles) are where the Higher Potential Forces are present.
Lower Saturated Areas ALLOW LIGHT TO PASS through, while lower potential areas, with higher concentration (Saturated) of particles BLOCK LIGHT.
But this is not all about this arrangement.
The space between two high potential area is also a low potential side, hence particles group there as well...this defines the illuminated "curved lines" with darker areas in between...achieving a much better resolution, bringing up these higher potentials lighter to the viewer.
Besides, due to such small size of these nano particles, floating in a gas-like environment, they offer very neat LIGHT GRADIENTS between Hi-Lo Zones.
And of course, whenever we use the RGB Colors as illumination, we get different levels of 3D Gradients according the each color light wave propagation in the whole Magnetic Field Spectrum...
Hope you understand it better now...
Regards
UfopoliticsLast edited by Ufopolitics; 05-06-2018, 05:33 PM.
Leave a comment:
-
I think the idea of field lines is total rubbish anyway.
The best guess I have is that the field strength would
act in accordance with the inverse square law so
tbe ferrocell images are useless.
John.
Leave a comment:
-
You can get loads of different patterns.
I need dialectic on the dielectric.
Leave a comment:
-
no, transparent meaning showing both fields of the two poles of the magnet simultaneously, projected on the 2D surface of the ferrocell as an interlaced image of the two different pole fields but which of course are overlapping in 3D space.
Also Timm, inventor of ferrocell from his site you got the above quote, talks here how the image we get is the actual magnetic field projected on the ferrocell.Apply light and magnetism to either glass surface. Polarization of the applied magnetic field
will determine the "angle of incidence" light experiences as it exits the cell.
Using a permanent magnet is the easiest way to apply a polar field and see how a
Ferrocell will change the path of light and also appear as a holographic image to the viewer.
-
The center point between poles of the viewed image represents the Null Zone or more
generally, the Bloch Wall. (Not field lines like iron filings show).
Each point of light will follow a path in relation to its position in
space around the magnetic field and change its dimensional shape
depending on our point of view.
-
These 'paths' can be twisted, bent, made thicker or thinner, joined or repelled,
added to or subtracted from by the polar influence of two or more magnetic fields.
-
To make this event visible to the naked eye, a large surface area and strong magnetic fields are required.
Unlike most passive optical devices, a Ferrocell will exhibit the same results with polarized or non-polarized light.
-
There are other minor functions that happen in the cell, too. The layer of particles act like a filter for higher visible
frequencies (blue, violet) similar to the Christiansen Effect while enhancing lower frequencies (red, IR).
Light experiences Rayleigh & Mie Scattering, plus the Faraday Effect and other Magneto-optic phenomenon.
For more detailed informat
I don't see anything suspicious here that is negating any part of what is told in this thread here by me and Ufopolitics, about the operation of the ferrocell when activated by a magnet placed on it.
I think you are deluded on that...
All the other optical effects he is referring at the end are minor effects which have little to none influence to the image outcome of the field we get on the ferrocell of a magnet placed on it. As I said before magnetic polarization of the ferrocell by the magnet overrules any other light interference effects which are negligible to the end result.
He states all these optical phenomena because ferrocell except of study of external magnetic fields can also be used in research for inactivated magnetic thin films photonic properties.Last edited by Markoul; 05-06-2018, 02:57 PM.
Leave a comment:
-
I think Markoul shot himself in the foot here
"Also NOT comprehending as shown by your previous reply to me, that ferrocell is totally transparent to magnetic flux coming from both poles of a magnet , therefore 3D Euclidean field of magnet is projected on the 2D surface of ferrocell "
If the cell is totally transparent then nothing at all would happen!!!
John.
Leave a comment:
-
Apply light and magnetism to either glass surface. Polarization of the applied magnetic field
will determine the "angle of incidence" light experiences as it exits the cell.
Using a permanent magnet is the easiest way to apply a polar field and see how a
Ferrocell will change the path of light and also appear as a holographic image to the viewer.
-
The center point between poles of the viewed image represents the Null Zone or more
generally, the Bloch Wall. (Not field lines like iron filings show).
Each point of light will follow a path in relation to its position in
space around the magnetic field and change its dimensional shape
depending on our point of view.
-
These 'paths' can be twisted, bent, made thicker or thinner, joined or repelled,
added to or subtracted from by the polar influence of two or more magnetic fields.
-
To make this event visible to the naked eye, a large surface area and strong magnetic fields are required.
Unlike most passive optical devices, a Ferrocell will exhibit the same results with polarized or non-polarized light.
-
There are other minor functions that happen in the cell, too. The layer of particles act like a filter for higher visible
frequencies (blue, violet) similar to the Christiansen Effect while enhancing lower frequencies (red, IR).
Light experiences Rayleigh & Mie Scattering, plus the Faraday Effect and other Magneto-optic phenomenon.
For more detailed informat
This is what ferrocell himself says so someone's peddling crap.
Leave a comment:
-
What is not discussed here is the Aetheric realm.
An element's unique aetheric field geometry.
The two types of magnetic energies.
Conditions needed to form a charge separating mechanism.
The application of expansive and contractive properties.
Those that uses this animated icon might be a clown
did I ever use this ? what about being nasty then saying regards
just political correctness and outrage over nothing.
Leave a comment:
-
Dear Ufopolitics,Ferrocell particles are free to "swim" inside the fluid and group at the field lowest potential...and that's the way to do it in order to observe a truly image of Magnetic Fields Higher Potential ILLUMINATED based on light filtering.
I couldn't agree more with you on that and you said it wonderfully . However I must say this "lowest potential" term brings confusion. In the ferrocell but as well CRT the flux trajectories closer to the body of the magnet are actually the highest potential of the field (it is well known fact in physics that the strongest field vectors are the shortest in distance from the source). As you go further in distance from the magnet, flux lines shown represent lower potentials of the magnetic dipole field. The magnetic field strength as you know for the far field is diminishing with distance with the inverse cube law for a dipole magnet.
Unerstand, that field of magnet consists of many of these layers or shells of flux like an onion filling completely the 3D space around a magnet and its radius of influence.
Ferrocell is not showing lowest or highest potential shells of magnetic field but because it is a single 2D surface in space every time depending its distance from the magnet, one slice only or shell of the 3D magnetic field is magnetically projected on the 2D surface of the ferrocell. And by meaning surface of the ferrocell I am not referring to the glass but to the the microns thin film of ferrofluid encapsulated inside the ferrolens (i.e. two glasses of ferrocell).
Hope, this clarifies things.
Kind Regards,
EMLast edited by Markoul; 05-06-2018, 08:23 AM.
Leave a comment:
Leave a comment: