ENLIGHTENED MAGNETISM (The Full Proof of Ken Wheeler's Theories)

[bistander]

Really

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Also geometry of magnetic field is not changed by physical shape of magnet and is always the same for any dipole magnet...

I would like to see your field geometry for a bar magnet, l, bent into a U or a C, or an O with a narrow air gap cut in it.

Also, in case you missed it:

Empirical data shows only two opposite separate twisted toroid vortices hyperboloids generated out by the secretion disc on the ground state middle of magnet namely its diamagnetic plane or else Bloch region domain wall.

I really want to see this empirical data. If the OP objects to posting here, please start a thread where we can examine this data.

Thanks,

bi

Ufo approved using this thread for your data response.

Regards,

bi

[Markoul]

However, maybe due to my bad English, I don't think you got my point. The field lines seems static in space when magnet is rotated at its vertical position, while moved in horizontal it perfectly follows any movement of the magnet.

ah yes i know what you mean.

Pole is a circle.. so however you orient the circle it remains the same.

With other words field of magnet when looking down the magnet on its pole, remains fixed in space and DOES NOT TURN with magnet!

This is true.

Also geometry of magnetic field is not changed by physical shape of magnet and is always the same for any dipole magnet. Thus two toriudal fields back to back.

EM

[Fessor]

Ufopolitics,

Thanks for the video and the tip.

However Brian's video does not allow embedding

Anyway thank you.

Fessor,

don't forget this is magnetism

The field of the magnet is always induced vertically to the ferrocell surface independent of small inclinations of the magnet.

However it shows up in the ferrocell distorted when magnet is not placed at center of ferrocell due the fact that when on the edge light becomes no omnidirectional and isometric.

Always place your magnets on the center of the ferrocell if you want to project a geometrical correct field.

EM

Thanks Markoul,

However, maybe due to my bad English, I don't think you got my point. The field lines seems static in space when magnet is rotated at its vertical position, while moved in horizontal it perfectly follows any movement of the magnet.

Best of regards

[bistander]

N or S

... can IDENTIFY EACH POLE (NORTH-SOUTH) ...

Hey Ufo,

There's an app for that.

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/kj-pole-id/id1323248335?mt=8

Regards,

bi

[bistander]

Tiny compasses

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what now is the difference of "Iron Filings" (which is micro) to ferrous compound (can be nano).. if they all just act like numerous tiny compasses?.
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Like this.



From:
Magnetism_Magnetic_Fields_Lab

bi

[ricards]

Hi UFO,

thanks for that detailed reply..

I'm sure I have stated that light was deflected by the stream of electrons being deflected.. the effect was the light because the cause was the stream of electrons being deflected.. maybe you got confused?.

on north and south opposite spins... maybe I should refer you to your thread where you state that spin rotation is the same..

Even though, I have shown on my above quoted post, that a NORTH SPIN is COMPLETELY OF OPPOSITE NATURE to a SOUTH SPIN ...

When we get TWO of this CRT SCOPES, and set them according to below CAD DIAGRAM, meaning FACE TO FACE with the FIELD IN CENTER:



It is ONLY then, when we realize that BOTH SPINS AGREE ON SAME ROTATIONAL DIRECTION, from BOTH POLARIZATIONS...NORTH AND SOUTH.


Regards to All


Ufopolitics

you rotated the magnet that is why the spin that you are visualizing was the opposite...
this indicates that the gyroscopic action newman was potraying in his book (energy machine of joseph newman) was correct.. but unlike the model of ken, the vortex like in the poles are not present, but still the lines of force only have gyroscopic motion..

on the "Thing" and the "Theory".. I'm pretty sure you get what I mean.. (because you made fun of it).. if not I can explain further.

I'm sorry UFO but a CRT scanline CANNOT perfectly Identify poles like you are claiming.. YOU are the one who identified it.
the Only way to know the Poles is to get a compass set to align to the Magnetic field of earth in which the baseline of "Poles" is set.

on the lines of force that you guys are dismissing..
I will not refer you to a "Iron Filing" method (that you hated so much, even though it didn't do anything to you.) instead, I will refer you to a ferocell experiment.

http://www.ferrocell.us/references/o...Ferrocell.ppsx

that is a file you can get here references

on page 5 of that slide show you will see this.. (I have cropped the image in case you cant access the website.)
Linesofforce.png
why do those ferrous compound aligning like a "Line"..
what now is the difference of "Iron Filings" (which is micro) to ferrous compound (can be nano).. if they all just act like numerous tiny compasses?.

and forgive me for judging you guys for your ferro+magnet+light experiment.. I apologize.
I will just ask, when you visualize the magnetic field on those experiment.. do you visualized the "Light" or the "Darkened" area?.. as the magnetic field?.

[Markoul]

Ufopolitics,

Thanks for the video and the tip.

However Brian's video does not allow embedding

Anyway thank you.

Fessor,

don't forget this is magnetism

The field of the magnet is always induced vertically to the ferrocell surface independent of small inclinations of the magnet.

However it shows up in the ferrocell distorted when magnet is not placed at center of ferrocell due the fact that when on the edge light becomes no omnidirectional and isometric.

Always place your magnets on the center of the ferrocell if you want to project a geometrical correct field.

EM

[Fessor]

Im baffled..

@Markoul:

Video below shows the Geometry much better and in all angles, frontal and sides.

Plus he also does Repulsion and Attraction under the cell.

[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUZsojDdEbE[/VIDEO]

Tip on posting videos:

You could use the [VIDEO] tag closed by brackets and end with a / like: (/YT) Icon is at top editor to right.

Regards


Ufopolitics

[aljhoa]

just electrons

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnEx3JjeGGg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8hein2SDrk

spiral trajectory

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSIzyk5Mjko&feature=youtu.be&t=172

You really rediscovering the wheel.

Electric Experiments Roobert33
Published on Apr 26, 2017
This experiment is known as the "Lorentz Force". The operating voltage is 2V DC controlled by a DC inverter.


Al

[Ufopolitics]

Ricards,

This morning I was on my cell...so could not go on detail about your whole post...but now I can.

If others concept of magnetism are welcome in this thread other than ken wheelers, I'd like everyone to inspect Joseph Newman theory on magnetism in general and how he perceived and visualized the Magnetic field. (especially UFOPolitics).

I have read Ken wheeler's book and to me It's much better to subscribe to Newman's Model... in his book and writing.. there is less hatred and criticizing of the existing model, and rather than "Redefining" magnetic field in general, he instead identified a missing piece and just made the existing model much more understandable..

1-there is still the lines of force..
2-the geometry of the magnetic field is still the same..
3-there is only the addition of the "gyroscopic" action instead of just a flux lines..

Ok, if Newman's Model still have #1 PLUS #2 numbered by me above...or same BS lines of force plus same BS geometry...then not needed to be discussed here, Classic Hoax Magnetism already comprehend all that...and just for that Gyroscopic effect... which I wrote previously "IT DOES NOT APPLY (N/A) to Magnetism, and it is DEAD WRONG...Sorry, but it will bring even more confusion and NOT ENLIGHTENMENT.

there are some explanation that can be explained using newman's model of magnetism..
one is the..

Really?

"why is there no current when there is no changed in flux"..
based on my understanding, the reason why there is no current because the "thing" (electrons.. that movement of it is called "current") has already been displaced by the gyroscopic action of the flux line and cannot go back to its original position since the gyroscopic flux is still there... no "thing" movement = no current..

Very precise and scientific wording...that "thing" on above "Theory" (if we could call THAT a Theory)...

In UFO Politics CRT display light displacement... the phenomenon can be explained without distorting the geometry of the Magnetic Field portrayed by iron filings method, by taking into account this "gyroscopic" action.. the light that is seen on the CRT is being deflected because the stream of electrons are being deflected by this "gyroscopic" action..

Your "Assumption" is DEAD WRONG Ricards.

First off...it is not just "light being deflected" on that CRT, BUT an Electron Beam Gun, rastered and projected on Screen...it becomes "light" due to the Phosphorus EFFECT brightening E-BEAM.

Plus, IT IS not just one deflection BUT TWO PER POLE which depicts a SPIN, a Rotation...WHICH HAPPENS...that for NORTH and SOUTH are COMPLETELY OPPOSITE SPINS...

NOW, Ricards...Please, tell me...does the Iron Filings can IDENTIFY EACH POLE (NORTH-SOUTH) OPPOSITE SPINS?

so basically from my point of view,

I am sorry, but "your point of view"...is very blind, small, narrow and short, which allows for ERRORS GALORE.

the geometry of the magnetic field "visualized" by others who experiment with ferocells+magnet+light is an illusion made by the "Light" to trick the mind in perceiving a different geometry of the magnetic field other than what is clearly portrayed by the Iron filings method..

The only one being "tricked" here... are You Ricards.

a static straight loop with gyroscopic action is much closer to reality rather than a magnetic field with orthogonally misaligned flux

Like I wrote before...Gyroscopic Movements are ANGLE FREE, NON PREDETERMINED SWINGS, RANDOM, UNEXPECTED DIRECTIONS, etc,etc.

Then explain to ALL of Us here why the CRT SCANLINE can perfectly identify a North from a South Pole?

Could the RUSTED and MUDDY Iron Filings do that?

NEVER, EVER.

NOT EVEN THE FERROCELL, NOR VIEW FILM, NOR COLOR CRT...etc,etc...could DETERMINE WITH 100% ACCURACY THE NORTH & SOUTH OPPOSITE SPINS.

(sorry for the term no offense intended.. I can't describe it properly)..

And so...same here...no offense intended


Regards


Ufopolitics

[Ufopolitics]

About the ferrocell you could't be more wrong. Nothing random multiple phenomena can produce this perfect geometric shape:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aRxyRuGP2c

EM

@Markoul:

Video below shows the Geometry much better and in all angles, frontal and sides.

Plus he also does Repulsion and Attraction under the cell.

[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUZsojDdEbE[/VIDEO]

Tip on posting videos:

You could use the [VIDEO] tag closed by brackets and end with a / like: (/YT) Icon is at top editor to right.

Regards


Ufopolitics

[Markoul]

Also if we say that the iron filings depicts correctly the field then in an long bar magnet the field of a magnet is sugar melon shaped!!


hahahahahahaha!

EM

[Markoul]

so basically from my point of view, the geometry of the magnetic field "visualized" by others who experiment with ferocells+magnet+light is an illusion made by the "Light" to trick the mind in perceiving a different geometry of the magnetic field other than what is clearly portrayed by the Iron filings method..

a static straight loop with gyroscopic action is much closer to reality rather than a magnetic field with orthogonally misaligned flux (sorry for the term no offense intended.. I can't describe it properly)..

Gyromagnetic ratio of dipole magnetic fields is not describing any spin forces, you are deluded, it just describes the spherical nature of a dipole magnetic field and the fact that because it is not a perfect sphere it will on its axis under the influence of an other magnetic field nearby, wobble. It is exactly why the compass needle when you approach a magnet is going back and forth before it stops and locking at the direction of the magnet. Gyromagnetic frequency is or else larmor frequency is exactly the frequency of this oscillation and is depended by the external magnetic field.

For the hydrogen atom it is found to be about 42MHz/Tesla.

About the ferrocell you could't be more wrong. Nothing random multiple phenomena can produce this perfect geometric shape:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aRxyRuGP2c

EM

[Markoul]

just electrons forced into spiral trajectory by Lorentz force. This is all well known 100 of years now. You really rediscovering the wheel.

[aljhoa]

"true iron filings revealing magnetic fields"

Whirlpools of Mercury Possibly "Reveal Magnetic Fields"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ml85Lk60gus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jknVk6Nfc1U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSIzyk5Mjko&feature=youtu.be&t=172

Al