Gambeir,
It's the material magnets are made off that is more susceptible to the induced field but really it is the induced electric field which makes a magnet.
And of proof of this is the following:
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Making an steel bar a magnet by magnetic induction (double touch method)
Place a steel bar on top of two strong bar magnets facing with opposite poles each other and an air cap in between less than lenght of the steel bar so that stee bar can sit on the two magnets.
Aproach two strong bar magnets from above with inclined angles and the same polarity as the bottom magnets.
On the steel bar slide several times on its one surface the two top magnets with opposite poles in this fashion of movement
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starting from the middle (|) of the iron bar.
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That proves that magnetism originates from the Bloch domain region of a magnet, its middle (|).
Try to make the steel bar a magnet with the opposite movement as described above:
N-->|<--S
good luck!...
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Markoul, your statement grates because it's your assumption this is how things work. It follows convention, does it not, that you're making an assumption about the way things work. You then you go on to describe the results as a manifest cause and effect, when really all you're doing is explaining one way to create a magnet. It does not automatically follow that the results are the consequence of having applied polarity to each end with an electrical charge. That outcome seems to be a consequence of the now arranged molecules within specific matter and not for any other reason. It is natural to expect this outcome if the force used was an polarized electrical charge applied to the correct materials.Originally posted by Markoul View PostUfopolitics,
We all know that magnets are made by electrification by applying an electric voltage (potential) at its two ends with a coil wrapped around the magnet, thus every magnet has electrically charged matter and also unbalanced between its two ends (poles)(+/-).
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Are you following? I'm implying that the input helps to form the output, but the output is dependent upon the materials involved because their internal molecules are capable of being reorganized by this technique, and so it's possible to imagine other outcomes with other energies being the format for the crystalline lattice bonds which make up a magnet. It implies that something like say X~Ray's could be applied to another material with a similar result as the outcome.
To say a magnet has a storehouse of electrically charged matter suggests it is either a capacitor or a battery of sorts. Which may be telling, not sure, but interesting to think about as a kind of incomplete capacitor with the other half being in the so~called dark matter, or air around us as is more likely. Certain materials are conducive to having their molecular bonds assume a conductive plane with the application of an electrical charge. Otherwise we could take any old piece of material and should then expect that we could also magnetize that by the same methods which we know we cannot do.
We can, however, use alloys to produce organized crystalline lattice bonds in other materials and thus create magnets which were previously thought impossible. So really it's the structure within the magnet that is the key. It suggests that a load stone is a natural creation not formed through the use of electrical charge, but purely upon the arrangement of it's internal structure, and what that implies is this idea or notion of how magnets work is a partial understanding. For all we know there's something akin to X~ray magnets laying around or which might help to explain radioactive matter as another form not unlike magnetism.Last edited by Gambeir; 04-14-2018, 02:37 AM.
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The real field of a magnet and concerning dark matter...
Ufopolitics,
Thank for your kind reply.
I am not complicated guy, all what I am saying essentially is at the exact spatial string where we have truly electric field E=0 magnetic radiation gets ejected out from dark matter into ordinary matter in two opposite 180 degrees distinct jets, thus a magnet and that is the reason why magnetism can exist in ordinary matter only as an dipole.
We all know that magnets are made by electrification by applying an electric voltage (potential) at its two ends with a coil wrapped around the magnet, thus every magnet has electrically charged matter and also unbalanced between its two ends (poles)(+/-).
Guess where the electric charge in a magnet gets balanced and E=0?...
Exactly an it middle (if it has a uniform charged rest mass) at the Bloch region!
Don't you see the connection?
Ken Wheeler was right about on one thing Electric vector is -180 degrees opposite to magnetic vector. The 90 degrees are applying only for travelling electromagnetism not for static.
He is however wrong about the image he sees in the ferrocell because the fact that ferrocell is completely transparent to magnetic flux coming from both poles of a magnet. there is no reciprocating fields.
The flux lines of the two poles are overlapping in 3D space and are projected essentially at the 2D ferrocell with a bit of depth of field information. So what you finally get on the ferrocell is a compressed 3D fully interlaced and overlapping image of the flux on both poles of the magnet.
To see the single true field on the pole of a magnet use not a cube or ring magnet but an enlogated bar magnet with its two poles quite apart and keep the approaching pole at a distance, couple of cm, away from the ferrocell:
wrong flux pattern of the pole of a magnet:
correct flux pattern of the pole of a magnet:
The above last is the correct field flux on the pole of a magnet.
It's like a rolled-in slinky.
So yes Ufopolitics you were right in your initial ilustrations of the magnetic field the below illustration is the correct one:
Ken has to rethink this...
hahahahahahaha! Anyway he is a genius but even geniuses make mistakes.
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It's in your microwave oven
hehe! good one! I know what a ****ing magnetron is...thank you!
that was just for comparing it with the electron!...okay then call it magneto if you like... but please don't mix it this time with X-men
hahahahahaha!
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I can only say Ufopolitics that I agree with the author of the Article: "Flying Triangles and The Black Holes On My Fridge." Magnetism is an organized something, and that this something is evidently all around us in un~organized forms. We know that certain materials and certain patterns can focus this energy to create a detectable form which we call magnetism.
Flying Triangles And The Black Holes On My Fridge
When objects move sufficiently fast enough they can begin to emit light. Movement is energy and light is therefore a product of moving energy. As a crystalline form cannot itself be moving, then whatever creates magnetism must itself be moving, as any other conclusion is illogical.
A logical conclusion is that crystalline patterns (known as lattices) are capable of guiding hereto previously un~regarded energy to a point where it's condensed form is ejected outwards, and as the construction of the matrix which forms this lens is self enforcing, it then follows that the material which was injected from the focused point is self cycling caught up in the crystalline lattices motive powers.
As shape and form dictates energies action, then the shape or form of crystalline patterns dictate the outcome of energies, and factors like heat and cold influence those patterns physically and obviously whatever energies are conducted by them. Manifestly such changes are the result of physically altering the lattice structure by expansion and contraction, but other unknowns may exist which over time can break down the lattice bonds, or otherwise diminish the motive powers.
On the surface a magnet appears to be a magnifying lens of sorts, as this is the first thing to simply explain the whole, but undoubtedly the whole is more complex, and likely these patterns could be seen as acting like or forming accretion discs; for the whole of a magnet acts like a jet ejected from center core.
The entire and foremost quality of a crystal is that it replicates, and that what it replicates is itself, and that above all else, this replication represents a frozen moment since it does this in an endless cycle. It is therefore logical that the energies this form eject are then take back in and recycled on the whole.
A magnet is evidently functioning in a similar manner to an accretion disc, and so if that's the case, then whatever it is which produces magnetism is, for reasons completely unknown, first flowing inwards and then being ejected outwards from a center core: This is the behavior of an accretion disc.
So either the unknown material is moving or else this unknown material is guided by forms. To say it flows means it's capable of moving like water is capable of moving: It may be a raging torrent or a still pond but either way it's still water. Whether this unknown energy is actually flowing or just capable of flowing I cannot say: It may be either or both. In the case of a magnet this unknown energy must be moving in order to create the magnetic field, so either energies are already moving and simply being guided by shape form, or else the shape and form are acting so as to divert and accrete this energy. The nature of the crystal and it's lattice is suggestive of a mass~array, like a hundred million billion tiny magnifying lens all focused upon a central point.
Now if form alone can create a magnetic field than one might suspect that any type of form, that is a shape could produce an effect regardless of what the shape was constructed from. We of course know of pyramid power, and some may also know of the late great Joe Parr and his experimental work in this field of shape power energies.
However, I don't think anyone I know of has mapped out the lattice form of a magnet and replicated that in some other material, say perhaps cardboard, and that would be interesting to see the measured results. So if you then have a cardboard model of a magnets' crystalline lattice and that then produces a magnetic field, well that then would rather strongly suggest that there's unknown energies out there doing some strange things.
The debate here seems to be whether or not the magnetic field is flowing. A crystalline pattern cannot be acting as rock in stream. Those patterns cannot be creating eddies which then produce the manifestation of magnetism because that is a diminished form of energy, whereas a magnetic field is a condensed form of energy and we know this since adding magnets only strengthens the field. Whereas breaking a magnet in half leaves half the strength but now gives two magnets, or two accretion discs if you will.
Physics says that there is an inverse square to energy, wherein the breaking of a magnet would create greatly diminished magnetic fields if the fields were themselves only subject to inactive objects. Logic seems to say that the fields are created by activity. I suspect that the unknown energy does both. It can exist in both moving and un~moving forms as water or air can, but as to what it's doing in a magnetic field, then I think it's clearly moving and cycling for the most part.
The work of Joe Parr and our knowledge as the physical effects of pyramids show that this energy is all around us, and either it is moving and can be condensed by more movement, or it can be coaxed or enticed to follow certain shapes, possibly both. To focus in only on the action of electrons and orbitals ignores what we already do know about the effects of shape and form. There is clearly a cross correlation going on between geometry and relative action of power and there is clearly something we don't know practically anything about in the way that shapes can effect space.Last edited by Gambeir; 04-11-2018, 12:41 AM.
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Keeping It Simple...Science.
Hello to All,
Great posts!!, Thanks to all contributing here!!
@Markoul: I believe you are establishing that Dark Matter is the Aether...am I correct?
According to K. Wheeler... Magnetism, Gravity as Electricity are All Aether Disturbances.
On my end, I like to keep Science as simple as possible, even having very positive and maybe unexplained results, according to conventional science...
In my point of view, complicating our language by using terms which are still in another scientific "limbo" does not help our research, as it would be worst for others outside our experimenting world to "digest" it.
So I do have to agree above with Mikrovolt post.
Getting back to magnetism, I have tried to respond to myself as to why the Mass Particles within the Magnetic Field carrier do not show an alignment which is the same as the Spatial Field (according to Wheeler) meaning, showing a center difference and aligning from center toward each pole?
Then after all my research with CRT Scan line Plane, concluding that North-South are spinning in the same exact direction, and so the whole magnet is just one single spin force, no matter if Spatial Field is being generated exactly from the Gravitational Center of Field Carrier, no matter geometrical shape...I clearly understood my original question above...
The Molecular structure of the Ferromagnetic Material is being Oriented based on what we could call a Single Directional Spin, no matter if it was originated in the center of the geometry towards the ends of the mass...still, it is one, and only one single direction.
I could have explained my question by using the Higher Pressure Levels of return which flow from pole to pole...but, (yes you are right Markoul) we have not being able to reveal them clearly with any one of the advanced techniques to image magnetism so far...
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My opinion is to pay attention to what accretion disc's do. On cosmic scales accretion disc's do have event horizons, they do/can compress matter back in to pure energy, and they do alter time.Originally posted by Markoul View PostYes you are right there is no dark matter it's BS!...also there is no black color and magnetic poles (black holes) do not exist.
Thank you.
Until black holes are proven (somehow) then I personally consider them to be in the same league as Spectral Evidence. I would question the reasons for their sudden appearance in scientific circles, and would point to their use to divert discussion away from delicate areas which I believe have to do with the nature of accretion disc's on the whole. Why energies unknown or undetected by science should be labeled dark matter and dark energy say's more about the sources whom invented the new vocabulary than it does about the energies themselves.
I've already said it's likely we don't know all the energies around us right now. It's almost absurd to suppose we would given our state of corrupted science, but that doesn't mean it's dark matter or dark energy anything. A magnet is like a magnifying glass which focuses light rays. Why is it a surprise that the source out of which this energy springs is the precise point of center? Isn't that what a magnifying glass does at the most intense point of its' focus?
What does this tell us then? Isn't the real suggestive truth that magnetism is all around us right now as light is itself? It's said that a magnetic field can only exist when energy moves, but the reverse is equally true as well. Whatever the magnetic field is, it is all around us all the time, and it can be condensed as a ray just as rays of light may be brought into focus.Last edited by Gambeir; 04-08-2018, 10:26 PM.
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Possibly a typo on magnetron. It may be worth effort to pursue magnetron theory.
general definition: A magnetron is a high power microwave oscillator in which the potential energy of an electron cloud near the cathode is converted into RF energy in a series of cavity resonators.
Could there be the cross coupling or transfer mechanism fig 2 ?
I Thought it had the tendency to go thermal and sputter ?
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no really general proof needed.
You get an effect only when two or more things interacting.
Electromagnetism is an effect or phenomenon of electrons interacting with...what?
If electron is the electric energy carrier which is the magnetic energy carrier?...
Is is called electromagnetism for a reason...wake up people...
why they don't call it electromagnetro? but magnetism? I tell you why. They don't have a clue what magnetism is and where it comes from.
What is the magnetron and equal importantly... where is it?
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I did understand the simplified ideas. Everyday we are looking at different combinations of aether and gravity. A variety of published papers are available.
General theory expressions we often delete. Sometimes it might be viewed as specific to some other program even if it is published the actual existence
or non-existence proof has not been disclosed in any detail that I am aware of.
Thank you we appreciate your sharing.
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Yes you are right there is no dark matter it's BS!...also there is no black color and magnetic poles (black holes) do not exist.
Thank you.
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Ya know I spent a good deal of time examining the topic of dark matter, and like many I found it an interesting subject, but ultimately what I concluded is that it is was an idea injected in to the realm of science in order to hold back real understanding of the nature of reality.
For me, and I can only speak from my personal experiences, I would be deeply un~trusting of any voices coming out of officialdom, and really the origins of dark matter and dark energies really have their formation in the birth of black holes and the marketing of the whole dark matter, black hole meme comes out of Hollywood and then by way of officialdom and Ivory League shills.
The Black Hole concept was marketed by no less than Disney whom made a very interesting movie creatively titled; "The Black Hole." Prior to the Walt Disney movie some science fiction works had hit the market to grease the grounds as it were.
Of course I was quite young an totally unaware that I was being manipulated and run like a rat in maze, but I was and I too bought in to the whole idea and continued to to do so for quite a long time as well. After all, it has a lot of appeal and explains so much.
What I didn't realize, at the time, was that this film wasn't just a film featuring the latest understanding from science, but that rather it was a false construct: It wasn't a film about scientific discovery set in science fiction format; like I thought it was when I first saw the movie. No, it was propaganda, and it was propaganda targeted at young people during their formative years where they were susceptible to adopting beliefs as intrinsic parts of their own personality.
The film itself signaled (to the aware) that the powers that be were going to take science down a rabbit hole, and they would do that by creatively inventing a black hole in space. The whole idea was a play on words which goes back to the 1960's which some reading this might have already guessed. Out this has sprung, unsurprisingly, dark matter and dark energy, which just happen to have appeared like the magical constructs they truly are right out of the rabbit hat.
Dark matter and dark energy is actually a makeshift counter tool designed to combat rising issues that were foreseen to take place in our own time, and these issues include the questioning of officialdom as previous explanations for how things work came into conflict with observed phenomena conflicting with the official narrative. The foremost of which happens to be how our galaxy works, what is gravity, why do the stars stay in place, how come there's this, that, and the other thingy?
So all this dark matter, dark energy, black hole business really has to do with combating scientific discovery, not assisting it, and what these things do is enable the maintenance of the existing lies about how the Sun works, how stars are formed, and on and on. This is a lot like the tactics of the church which used such methods to hold the doors closed for as long as possible and then fled to the next door to repeat the cycle once again.
I have to conclude that there is no dark matter nor are there any black holes anywhere. The Whole Hole conspiracy is really one which is designed to combat the rising belief in the Electric Universe. Once you get to through the black hole conspiracy time warp you will discover that you've arrived back on the front porch with the electric universe staring right back at you, and it's here where you can once more resume the work of unmasking where magnetism comes from.Last edited by Gambeir; 04-07-2018, 09:47 PM.
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sorry guys... I had to delete it.
This was classified information not for the public.
The reason why mainstream research on this matters is deliberately discouraged and sometimes prevented secretly is because it is simple dangerous and can not be researched randomly by anyone. Even black projects are extremely reluctant....
...suffice to say that since ordinary matter consists only 4% of the total matter in our Universe and life exists here... what makes you to believe life it can not exist at the other 96%?
If you are doubting the existence of dark matter and dark energy it will suffice to say for you who know a bit of physics or electrical engineering...in dark domain there are neither electrons nor photons. It consists from different set than ours of particles and quanta.
As a matter of fact you sitting now in your chair, you can occupy the same space exactly with another intelligent life form, from the other side...
Also if you follow science news and published papers, lately there is a directive the dark matter topic to be pulled down from mainstream science and slowly forgotten as a not valid anymore theory. So there are scientific papers now explaining expansion of universe and galaxy rotation without the need of dark matter.
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Personally I can't get too caught up in the details; one cannot see the forest if they are insisting on standing with their nose to the bark of a tree. I don't want to lose sight of the forest whilst looking at the beetles eating the tree, for the forest still exists and billions of beetles still haven't managed to munch their way to extinction. True science is the theoretical put to test and made to stand before empirical forms of testing. Beetles live in the theoretical bark of trees, and like all creatures of time, some survive and others do not; both trees and beetles. What we think we know "today" is probably not a truth. We are all beetles munching away right now and we are working with theories, some of which seem pretty solid I will grant you, but a theory is a momentary truth because all knowledge is fluid. Always be aware that what you think you know might be entirely in error and exploded by tomorrow's new found knowledge.
What I think I know is that magnetism is produced by multiple factors. It's unlikely to involve a single element alone. Materials don't transport anything but for their intrinsic geometry inside of them at the molecular level, and it's the geometry which we call crystalline lattices which transports everything; so that geometric forms do dictate movement of energies and do dictate the results of those energies.
We know that geometry leads to specific outcomes for specific energies: That's as old as the pyramids. It's about as solid as our knowledge gets. Things become fuzzy afterwards, believe me we don't yet know the half of what's really going on and this is where we are right now; we are working with notions about what's going on, not what we know is going on: There's a big difference between knowing and believing.
All we really know is that a complexity of interactions exist between geometric formations and energies. We have some little understanding right now. We are only now becoming aware of how complex reality really is; how energy creates forms which are geometric because the energy itself follows the rules of geometry, and so geometry is encoded in lattice structures of matter created from energy as defined by the molecules within matter. Carbon probably being the most studied since it's linked to magnetism and humans, and possibly then to UFO's and diseases, some of which may themselves be linked to the appearance of UFO's.
The study and classification of crystals is itself a relatively new field. Not seriously begun until the 1960's when it was realized how significant these formations of nature really are.
So much of what we think we understand is really very recent in this regard, and it's from this push to understand the molecular geometric structure, that sprung out of the study of the nature of crystalline patterns, which has given rise to the super materials of today. It's really this understanding of energy transport at a molecular level through or along the lines formed by the geometry of lattice structures within matter which defines what the potential outcome is to given energy input.
We think that this energy and geometry relationship exists because we are now looking at engineered materials which have magnetic qualities previously thought impossible and that were based on this sort of general understanding. This is important for all of us because to really understand the magnetic field is likely to be critical in finding solutions to significant rising diseases.
It seems clear that magnetism is a fundamental part of our reality, of why life itself exists, and it's been through a formalized study and classification system of crystals undertaken in the 1960's, covertly seeking to understand magnetism, that there likely hides darker secrets which can be linked to diseases and the transmission of diseases. Some of which have come about only after the last Global War and the mass arrival of UFO's.
Today we call these Prion type diseases. Prions were themselves a huge source of debate, no one was even sure such a disease could exist because prions were thought to be a crystal based disease, and these were linked to transmissible spongiform encephalopathies (TSEs) such as BSE (Bovine Songiform Encephalopathy), Alzheimer's Encephalopathy, Kuru Encephalopathy, Creutzfeldt Jacobs Encephalopathy, and others.
You see the problem right? How can a mineral create a disease that kills which isn't a poison? Makes no sense at all huh? So right away there was a titanic battle over the causes and rise of diseases like Alzheimers and Creutzfeldt Jacobs. Certainly the farming and cattle industry didn't want that one getting out.
Although a few of these were known to exist prior to the last Global War they had only rarely been documented in humans. Kuru, or laughing death, was almost the only known form outside of possibly three or four other individual cases. Today it's a virtual daily roll call of death by what amounts to Kuru: Call it whatever else you want, but it's all fundamentally the same disease in layman's terms. Many reading this can probably relate: I know I can.
How the body creates is certain to involve a magnetic field and a magnetic field is certain to involve crystalline patterns. What is a crystal anyways but a self assembling form? Isn't that a lot like a bunch of magnets bunching up?
Magnetism is enabled by geometry and geometric formations. We know this is the case because we now know that crystalline patterns have specific net outcomes from energies put into them that result in this outcome, and we can surmise from the nature of a crystalline form that there are energies which might then exist, but which we don't know about. These energies might also be all about us since nature produces the ones we do know about without our assistance. This says we were not aware of the possibility that of all energies which do exist all around us, there might be energies we don't yet know about, waiting to be discovered, and which could re~write what we think we know.
That is not to say we do not know many or even all of these energies; it is to say that these energies may be behaving in ways we have not widely imagined. I say widely imagined since Telsa obviously did imagine something along these lines when he said that Gravity exists in the shadows of magnetism.Last edited by Gambeir; 04-07-2018, 09:44 PM.
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