Is the Magnetic Field around a Wire Harvestable Free Energy?

[chainmailleman]

if you read lenz law you will understand that if there is a magnetic monopole that means conservation of energy is violated.

Lenz law applies to closed circuits and changing magnetic fields. Monopolies magnetism is not mentioned.

[boguslaw]

Lenz law applies to closed circuits and changing magnetic fields. Monopolies magnetism is not mentioned.

Isn't that interesting ? No closed circuit, no lenz law, but seems nobody is interested why ?

[tachyon]

I am interested.. prof. pappas has dealt with that problem long time ago.

[boguslaw]

What are the results ?

[tachyon]

answer it's too extensive to post it in a forum.. google is your friend

[chainmailleman]

Isn't that interesting ? No closed circuit, no lenz law, but seems nobody is interested why ?

Because very few notice this little loop-hole as most people believe an open circuit cannot function.

Reverting back to transient spikes: When the current path is interrupted (opened) the field collapses generating a transient. This transient DOES NOT OBEY LENZ LAW as the circuit is OPEN. This flow is longitudinal. Any open solenoid (coil) will transmit longitudinally (That mystical "radiant energy" we all hear about). All you have to do is provide the changing magnetic field to generate the EMF.

P.S. Stupid predictive texting.... I just realized my phone spelled monopolies instead of monopolar..... Quite limited for being a smart phone.

[tachyon]

emf can be from any source..

[Ein~+ein]

if you read lenz law you will understand that if there is a magnetic monopole that means conservation of energy is violated.

Have you noticed how many on these forums seem to arrogantly assume they can violate natural laws as easily as civic ones? I think I know how this originates--it may be derive from language. Think about it, we violate laws routinely: who doesn't exceed the posted speed limit or declare all income when filing taxes? So, as an amateur FE hack, to have someone more experienced or qualified say 'You can't do that, it violates Lenz's Law!' after you describe your OU device to them must sound like an arrogant or defensive statement--as if you'd achieved something they hadn't. It's easy to see how the amateur hacker might interpret this as concealed envy, indirectly lending credibility to his claim.

[tachyon]

lens law says that when there is a change in magnetic flow in a circuit hence there is an induced emf the induced emf creates an opposite magnetic field and an opposite force to the one you apply to change the magnetic flow .. if there was magnetic monopole this could not be possible .. because it would gain excess energy since the opposite magnetic field attracts the monopole... and you would destroy the circuit because it would gain infinite energy , this is the definition of perpetuum mobile or however you call it.

[Dave45]

If you want to pull energy from the ether maybe you should investigate and seek to understand ether and the fabric it follows. This is the fabric of space, and the fingerprint of God.

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[chainmailleman]

lens law says that when there is a change in magnetic flow in a circuit hence there is an induced emf the induced emf creates an opposite magnetic field and an opposite force to the one you apply to change the magnetic flow .. if there was magnetic monopole this could not be possible .. because it would gain excess energy since the opposite magnetic field attracts the monopole... and you would destroy the circuit because it would gain infinite energy , this is the definition of perpetuum mobile or however you call it.

And this is correct in a closed circuit. Lenz law applies to closed circuits.

An open circuit however does not follow Lenz law because current cannot flow.

emf can be from any source..

And how is an EMF produced? What is the definition of a volt?

[Ein~+ein]

If you want to pull energy from the ether maybe you should investigate and seek to understand ether and the fabric it follows. This is the fabric of space, and the fingerprint of God.

Dave, when you wind your coils, how do you determine the scale or size? Is it the gauge of the wire and/or a matter of what size feels most comfortable to work with in your hands?

The image you present reminds me of the effect shown at 20:38 in The Primer Fields Part 1 of steel balls aligning themselves in the magnetic field of 2 bowl shaped magnets. I believe this affect would be scalable.

[boguslaw]

And this is correct in a closed circuit. Lenz law applies to closed circuits.

An open circuit however does not follow Lenz law because current cannot flow.



And how is an EMF produced? What is the definition of a volt?

I really think explanation is not published anywhere. I also don't believe that it's about pure fields (would cause recurrence issue). I believe in simple explanation : magnetic field change cause a current flow in closed circuit AND this current flow is opposing the original magnetic field by the action of quantum spin-moments of electrons. In other words Ed Leedscalnin was right and we are pushing small magnets (electrons or maybe smaller particles) via wires. Joseph Newman said about gyroscopic particles ,and that also may be true (spin effect would be responsible for magnetic momentum)

[chainmailleman]

I really think explanation is not published anywhere. I also don't believe that it's about pure fields (would cause recurrence issue). I believe in simple explanation : magnetic field change cause a current flow in closed circuit AND this current flow is opposing the original magnetic field by the action of quantum spin-moments of electrons. In other words Ed Leedscalnin was right and we are pushing small magnets (electrons or maybe smaller particles) via wires. Joseph Newman said about gyroscopic particles ,and that also may be true (spin effect would be responsible for magnetic momentum)

Current can only flow if the circuit is closed. If the circuit is open, there are no opposing magnetic fields, as none can exist without current. This is how lenz law is "side-stepped".

So how do you get an open circuit to do useful work? Lindemann posted a good schematic in the Ainsle heater thread showing how it's possible.

Honestly I am surprised to see few understand what is happening with a transient spike. I opened a text book on motors, transformers, and industrial maintenance at my college and was shocked to see that the book only contained a couple sentences on transients.

The lack of information on this phenomena is disturbing to say the least. Transients caused so many problems with the first attempts at electrical grids. Tesla even talked about it as men would be electrocuted at the flip of the switch.

Abrupt disruption. Rapidly opening and closing the circuit generates HUGE transients. If you open and close it at a specific rate, resonance comes into play. Suddenly Tesla's secrets, are not really all that hidden.... Just "misunderstood" as Eric Dollard puts it.

[Dave45]

Dave, when you wind your coils, how do you determine the scale or size? Is it the gauge of the wire and/or a matter of what size feels most comfortable to work with in your hands?

The image you present reminds me of the effect shown at 20:38 in The Primer Fields Part 1 of steel balls aligning themselves in the magnetic field of 2 bowl shaped magnets. I believe this affect would be scalable.

Right now Im learning all I can about the ancient tech, I have wound a couple of coils and have found a few interesting anomalies but I would rather not talk too much about it until I have investigated this more, not because of my willingness to share, If I find free energy and am comfortable with the design you will be the first to know.
The answer is in the geometry but it brings up some things that Im not comfortable with right now.
Still learning
dave