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  • #46
    Hi Duncan,

    You can find easily that if the impedance in an AC circuit is Z=R+j0 then RESONANCE must be involved. However, mindfreeer did not show any resonant AC circuit in the video, right? Also, you can find easily that what I wrote for impedance, Z=V/I also valid, albeit I failed to mention the usage of RMS voltage and current values, see here: Impedance Of course in AC circuits in general the complex impedance is to be considered with phase angle knowledge between the voltage and current when you need to do power calculations: Complex Impedance

    I did not write, mean or imply: P=VxI in an AC circuit!

    Again, mindfreeer may have hinted at several 'meaningful' thoughts in his speech or in his video text, he did not create any resonant condition in the current transformer circuit he demonstrated, so what I wrote in my previous post I consider it fully valid.

    IT is one thing to "inspire" with words and a completely different thing to show a real test in practice to prove the inspiring words have reality.

    Regarding "reactive or wattless" power, please remember that utility providers have to produce the "reactive" current too in order for you to be able to draw it by a "reactive" load like an electric motor: such currents do cause losses in power lines.
    If mindfreeer demonstrates he can obtain "free energy" from circulating reactive currents I will be convinced. I am not saying it cannot be done but there are several such claims, without any scientific proof from the claimers.

    By the way, this toroidal current transformer appeared from a certain person, using "ncbookz" or similar name on youtube, ebay in 2007 to 2010 or so, selling the plans ($36-39.99) for this "free energy" device. See some posts here:
    Bought some fake information product from www.ncgbo.org
    http://www.ncbookz.com/ - looks like scam to me

    Greetings, Gyula

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    • #47
      Originally posted by gyula View Post
      Hi Duncan,

      You can find easily that if the impedance in an AC circuit is Z=R+j0 then RESONANCE must be involved. However, mindfreeer did not show any resonant AC circuit in the video, right? Also, you can find easily that what I wrote for impedance, Z=V/I also valid, albeit I failed to mention the usage of RMS voltage and current values, see here: Impedance Of course in AC circuits in general the complex impedance is to be considered with phase angle knowledge between the voltage and current when you need to do power calculations: Complex Impedance

      I did not write, mean or imply: P=VxI in an AC circuit!

      Again, mindfreeer may have hinted at several 'meaningful' thoughts in his speech or in his video text, he did not create any resonant condition in the current transformer circuit he demonstrated, so what I wrote in my previous post I consider it fully valid.

      IT is one thing to "inspire" with words and a completely different thing to show a real test in practice to prove the inspiring words have reality.

      Regarding "reactive or wattless" power, please remember that utility providers have to produce the "reactive" current too in order for you to be able to draw it by a "reactive" load like an electric motor: such currents do cause losses in power lines.
      If mindfreeer demonstrates he can obtain "free energy" from circulating reactive currents I will be convinced. I am not saying it cannot be done but there are several such claims, without any scientific proof from the claimers.

      By the way, this toroidal current transformer appeared from a certain person, using "ncbookz" or similar name on youtube, ebay in 2007 to 2010 or so, selling the plans ($36-39.99) for this "free energy" device. See some posts here:
      Bought some fake information product from www.ncgbo.org
      http://www.ncbookz.com/ - looks like scam to me

      Greetings, Gyula
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      Last edited by Duncan; 06-12-2013, 07:34 PM.
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      • #48
        Originally posted by Duncan View Post
        hoax ? no way of knowing without trying it!
        gogreenbuildyourownmotionlesssolidstatefreeenergy. flv - YouTube
        Thanks this is one of the videos that got deleted that i was looking for. I don't know if it is possible though why would mindfreeer not show more extensive testing. The only way to know would be to do it yourself but i just don't have the time now but i would really like to know if it is worth while. Logically it seems there should be no problem, the magnetic field seems to be by-product of the current flowing so there should be no problem harnessing it. Thanks for the link.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by J~wise View Post
          Thanks this is one of the videos that got deleted that i was looking for. I don't know if it is possible though why would mindfreeer not show more extensive testing. The only way to know would be to do it yourself but i just don't have the time now but i would really like to know if it is worth while. Logically it seems there should be no problem, the magnetic field seems to be by-product of the current flowing so there should be no problem harnessing it. Thanks for the link.
          You shouldn't do that, Ein~+ein said not to. You should believe everything he says......

          *note extreme sarcasm

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          • #50
            A question

            Hi All, Lately I've been winding many different configurations along with my own, following the Lockridge device and Matthew Jones' designs.
            This morning I noticed by accident that with Peters' coil overlayed on top of my drive coils, I had power showing up on different parts of the commutator, which I could draw off of.
            It still drained, but there was no actual connection?
            My q, how can the light, light ?
            My coils were not in contact with the proper segments ,to allow flow. Maybe my commutator is shorted?
            shylo

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            • #51
              Originally posted by chainmailleman
              You shouldn't do that, Ein~+ein said not to. You should believe everything he says......
              Chainmailleman, you read my thoughts before I worded them!

              Yes, I'd say DON'T BUILD IT! But it's not only Gyula and I who are saying it's not Free Energy. Let's all read what Mindfreer himself says at 7:26:
              OVERUNITY SYSTEMS
              "I have not built this type of system but my experience with this technology tells me this is what you would need to do. Use the..."

              Huh? If it's not OU, if it doesn't produce more (free) energy than it consumes--power 2 appliances for the price of 1--then why bother? The guy obviously likes deceiving people as much as he likes winding coils. (read Gyula's comments about the lightbulbs)

              ------------------
              Originally posted by Duncan
              Light tubes lite up under powerlines without plugs? EMF Cra - YouTube
              Interesting effect that works also with transmitter antennae, in this case even illuminating a compact flourescent but note how the tubes must be perpendicular to the current flow. But as Level says (which sums up the consensus on this thread) "there is no free power available from tapping into the magnetic field around wires."
              Last edited by Ein~+ein; 06-13-2013, 03:44 AM.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by J~wise View Post
                Thanks this is one of the videos that got deleted that i was looking for. I don't know if it is possible though why would mindfreeer not show more extensive testing. The only way to know would be to do it yourself but i just don't have the time now but i would really like to know if it is worth while. Logically it seems there should be no problem, the magnetic field seems to be by-product of the current flowing so there should be no problem harnessing it. Thanks for the link.
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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Ein~+ein View Post
                  Chainmailleman, you read my thoughts before I worded them!

                  Yes, I'd say DON'T BUILD IT! But it's not only Gyula and I who are saying it's not Free Energy. Let's all read what Mindfreer himself says at 7:26:
                  OVERUNITY SYSTEMS
                  "I have not built this type of system but my experience with this technology tells me this is what you would need to do. Use the..."

                  Huh? If it's not OU, if it doesn't produce more (free) energy than it consumes--power 2 appliances for the price of 1--then why bother? The guy obviously likes deceiving people as much as he likes winding coils. (read Gyula's comments about the lightbulbs)
                  I say if he wants to build it, let him. If he gets a lethal shock, it's one less person you have to deal with right? If it is OU, then we have an easily replicable machine. It's a win-win situation for us, and it's a loose-loose situation for him (lots of enemies if it works, lots of bill collectors if it doesn't).

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                  • #54
                    I wonder....what is the cause of stopping mechanical pendulum ? Surely, resistance. What indeed is pendulum is a SHAPE minimalizing RESISTANCE to the point where the mass-center is connnected to the ground. Put here the best bearing (I saw video when somebody used magnetic field of two half-ring magnets levitating as a bearing) - you can have pendulum working for days !

                    What's the point ?!


                    Do simple math with practical piece of mass (not round one) : compute how far you can push it on table with known force. Then find mass-center, connect a string and hang it like pendulum. Now push it and let it oscillate.

                    Here is important : SUM the total road it would pass during oscillations (when each of half of period of oscillation even if is in opposite direction would ADD to the sum). You will find overunity ! Thus eliminating resistance plus gravity work will give us a much longer road the same mass could pass (but the problem is in oscillation back and forth )

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                    • #55
                      If it is OU...
                      It's not according to everyone but you!

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                      • #56
                        collecting bemf- taking advantage of the kick as SM said
                        Half of the Answer is knowing the right Question

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                        • #57
                          The electric field runs counter to the applied current and when the pulse is off it collapses into the coil creating bemf.

                          How to collect bemf

                          The only problem with this is it still changes the polarity and magnetic field direction.
                          Half of the Answer is knowing the right Question

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Ein~+ein View Post
                            It's not according to everyone but you!
                            I know the two letters I and F were used at the very beginning......

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Dave45 View Post
                              The electric field runs counter to the applied current and when the pulse is off it collapses into the coil creating bemf.

                              How to collect bemf

                              The only problem with this is it still changes the polarity and magnetic field direction.

                              If it changed direction, wouldn't it "charge" the power supply?

                              The field collapses in the same direction as it was created, causing an emf in the same direction as the source.

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                              • #60
                                Help me with this folks.

                                In trying to understand the fluorescent tube phenomenon, does it not seem possible that one could recharge a dead cell phone battery directly under an overhead power line with nothing more than 2 lengths of wire--one attached to the neg. bat. term'l aimed at the power line, and the other, connecting the positive terminal to the ground?

                                If feasible, this info could potentially save lives as many rely solely on electronics, often forgetting to take printed maps, first aid, or other essentials into the great outdoors.

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