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  • gmeast
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    spark

    Originally posted by Kinetix View Post
    Yes, using the switch it's a good idea. It will tell you if plasma works.
    The pressure in the engine means the air (first) and the gasoline vapour is made more dense and the electric resistance between the two spark plug's electrodes is bigger. How bigger? Well, in my country the ignition systems are considerred reliable if they succeed to fire at a minimum of 7mm spark gap (open air). That means that increased resistance in the engine is not bigger than a 7mm air gap.
    So, in bench test we have to run the ignition at a minimum 7-8mm spark gap lenght (simulating the pressure) and at a minimum 200Hz (to simulate a 4 stroke/4 cylinders egine running at 6000RPM).

    All the best!
    Hi Kinetix,

    Thanks for your knowledge and experience. I will use these numbers as references if I have problems.

    Sincerely,

    Greg

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  • Kinetix
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    Yes, using the switch it's a good idea. It will tell you if plasma works.
    The pressure in the engine means the air (first) and the gasoline vapour is made more dense and the electric resistance between the two spark plug's electrodes is bigger. How bigger? Well, in my country the ignition systems are considerred reliable if they succeed to fire at a minimum of 7mm spark gap (open air). That means that increased resistance in the engine is not bigger than a 7mm air gap.
    So, in bench test we have to run the ignition at a minimum 7-8mm spark gap lenght (simulating the pressure) and at a minimum 200Hz (to simulate a 4 stroke/4 cylinders egine running at 6000RPM).

    All the best!

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  • gmeast
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    Done

    Originally posted by Kinetix View Post
    Hi everybody.
    It was a pleasant experience to look at your four spark plugs CDI-plasma setup.
    Although, it is possible that the plasma-effect may not occur inside the engine. So, to be shure of it's presence, you should turn (rotate) the axis of the distributor using a drilling machine, at high RPM.
    At the same time, you should use spark gaps at least 8-10mm long instead of each spark plug, to simulate the condition inside the engine.
    If this setup works, than it's very probable the engine will see the same effect.
    Good luck!
    All the best.
    Thanks for the suggestion. This was one of the first thing I did. 12mm spark at 67 Hz. Of course there's no plasma discharge until about 5 mm. I had concerns about whether or not the duration of the hall sensor charge pulse was sufficient for a full charge. It seems to be. The only effect that can't be simulated is the effect of pressure (density) on the characteristic of the spark. All I can do is drop it in and test her. But also, there will be a switch so that I can effectively remove the diode array from the circuit. There should be a noticeable difference between array 'in' and array 'out'.

    Thanks,

    Greg

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  • gmeast
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    Cdi

    Originally posted by Peter Lindemann View Post
    Greg,

    Absolutely fantastic!!! I can't wait to hear that your old VW can now climb trees with all the extra power.

    Keep up the great work!

    Peter
    Hi Peter,

    Very meaningful coming from you since it was your "relay" demo of Gotoluc's observation that inspired it. Now it's gotta' work.

    Thanks,

    Greg

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  • gmeast
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    my car

    Originally posted by broli View Post
    I imagined your car to be a lot bigger than that!
    Hi broli,

    I guess I should have shown the tires too ... but it goes really fast because it's so very light. In the car soon.

    Peace,

    Greg

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  • Kinetix
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    Hi everybody.
    Greg, it was a pleasant experience to look at your four spark plugs CDI-plasma setup.
    Although, it is possible that the plasma-effect may not occur inside the engine. So, to be shure of it's presence, you should turn (rotate) the axis of the distributor using a drilling machine, at high RPM.
    At the same time, you should use spark gaps at least 8-10mm long instead of each spark plug, to simulate the condition inside the engine.
    If this setup works, than it's very probable the engine will see the same effect.
    Good luck!
    All the best.
    Last edited by Kinetix; 09-27-2008, 07:10 PM.

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  • broli
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    Originally posted by gmeast View Post
    Hi everyone,

    I have posted a short video showing the final bench testing and demo of the original Gotoluc-Lindemann isolated water spark plug circuit configured for a 4-cylinder engine.

    The hardware is ready for installation in a vehicle and I'll be placing it in my '64 VW Bug. I hope you enjoy the video.

    The video is located at:
    YouTube - final bench test - distributed plasma CDI

    Peace,

    Greg
    I imagined your car to be a lot bigger than that!

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  • Peter Lindemann
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    Awesome...

    Originally posted by gmeast View Post
    Hi everyone,

    I have posted a short video showing the final bench testing and demo of the original Gotoluc-Lindemann isolated water spark plug circuit configured for a 4-cylinder engine.

    The hardware is ready for installation in a vehicle and I'll be placing it in my '64 VW Bug. I hope you enjoy the video.

    The video is located at:
    YouTube - final bench test - distributed plasma CDI

    Peace,

    Greg
    Greg,

    Absolutely fantastic!!! I can't wait to hear that your old VW can now climb trees with all the extra power.

    Keep up the great work!

    Peter

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  • Jetijs
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    Originally posted by K1w1 View Post

    @jetjis. Is there any reason you have disabled embedding with your latest video? I was intending to use it on the blog...

    Cheers.
    Hi,
    Just edited that video, now you can use it in your blog

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  • dllabarre
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    Originally posted by gmeast View Post
    Hi dllabarre,

    A couple of weeks ago it was suggested that you put a small magnet on the intake valve rocker or in the case of a flat-head engine somewhere on the lifter to trigger a hall sensor and reset the circuit. This way it will know NOT to inhibit the next ignition cycle (by resetting the flip-flop). It's a good idea.

    Peace,

    Greg
    Thanks Greg

    I can see where that would work.

    DonL

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  • gmeast
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    waste spark

    Originally posted by dllabarre View Post
    I've thought about that off and on for weeks and have always come to the same conclusion "when I go to start the motor, how do I know if the next spark plug fire is the waste spark or power spark"?

    Unless there is some signal coming from the motor, to tell the circuit what position it's in, there's a 50/50 chance it will be skipping the wrong spark.

    DonL
    Hi dllabarre,

    A couple of weeks ago it was suggested that you put a small magnet on the intake valve rocker or in the case of a flat-head engine somewhere on the lifter to trigger a hall sensor and reset the circuit. This way it will know NOT to inhibit the next ignition cycle (by resetting the flip-flop). It's a good idea.

    Peace,

    Greg

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  • dllabarre
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    Originally posted by CPU3rother View Post
    The use of a relay toggle circuit or other flip-flop could solve the waste spark.

    Circuits Page 9
    I've thought about that off and on for weeks and have always come to the same conclusion "when I go to start the motor, how do I know if the next spark plug fire is the waste spark or power spark"?

    Unless there is some signal coming from the motor, to tell the circuit what position it's in, there's a 50/50 chance it will be skipping the wrong spark.

    DonL

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  • ashtweth
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    Guys, shot the video with all the groups research and themes, added all the plasma research that's done already which is neglected and where we want to go with this plus support for the open source engineers. We were just about to fire up the 5.5HP generator, with a smack and a nexus plasma ignition, and guess what?

    The con rod just snapped!! (with out the plasma and booster connected)BANG!! BOOM CRASH!! cheap Chinese aluminum we had run this on 100% hydroxy before but embrittlement cannot get into the con rod, SO DOH! we couldn't fire it up, so we are now going to Smack the CAR with the plasma ignition should be done next week. Will uses Alex's circuit (groundloops).
    Beware of cheap Chinese gensets !! It blew with out the plasma spark or hydroxy, just on its own, a con rod!!

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  • gmeast
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    final bench test - distributed spark plasma CDI

    Hi everyone,

    I have posted a short video showing the final bench testing and demo of the original Gotoluc-Lindemann isolated water spark plug circuit configured for a 4-cylinder engine.

    The hardware is ready for installation in a vehicle and I'll be placing it in my '64 VW Bug. I hope you enjoy the video.

    The video is located at:
    YouTube - final bench test - distributed plasma CDI

    Peace,

    Greg

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  • K1w1
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    Originally posted by ashtweth View Post
    the Spark video we are making can be used in the underground circles Shamus mentioned too , in fact we get interviewed on Truth news this friday, will mention all the gang
    Cool. Let us know if they post the article online.

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