Bedini Ferris Wheel Regauging Motor

[John_K]

Timing

Les,

Thanks for the videos. It looks like you have it timed right. Where would you say the rotor magnet is in relation to the middle coil when the coils switch off?


John K.

Hopefully this is of value. The first is how I tune the machine as just a place to start.
The second is a shot of the signal across the coil.

Timing3GT.mp4 - YouTube

FerrisWheel.mp4 - YouTube

Les

[Les_K]

Just some fun stuff

Hopefully this is of value. The first is how I tune the machine as just a place to start.
The second is a shot of the signal across the coil.

Timing3GT.mp4 - YouTube

FerrisWheel.mp4 - YouTube

Les

[minoly]

Hi Patrick!!

isn't this one?

SOLID STATE RELAY-HFS33|MOSFET output|DC control|Low on-state resistance|Photo isolation|2500V dielectric strength|Environmental friendly product (RoHS compliant)

can any one tell me how to do this with single parts? to make a cap dump at 14 volts or so?

Yesterday I came from work and my mechanical cap dump was destroyed the pulley was all break and the gear disk also, lol.

I have tryed the SCR cap dump with out luck my SCR always get latched, and I have also tryed that inverted NPN cap dump that works!! but it does not dump all the cap intro the batt, just a little.

best!!

Alvaro

Hi Alvaro,

Isn't that a "HongFa" product? we're looking for a "Douglas Randall".

Patrick

[alvarohn]

Hfs33

Hi Patrick!!

isn't this one?

SOLID STATE RELAY-HFS33|MOSFET output|DC control|Low on-state resistance|Photo isolation|2500V dielectric strength|Environmental friendly product (RoHS compliant)

can any one tell me how to do this with single parts? to make a cap dump at 14 volts or so?

Yesterday I came from work and my mechanical cap dump was destroyed the pulley was all break and the gear disk also, lol.

I have tryed the SCR cap dump with out luck my SCR always get latched, and I have also tryed that inverted NPN cap dump that works!! but it does not dump all the cap intro the batt, just a little.

best!!

Alvaro

Ok, I'll ask...
the only reference I find with that part number is a HongFa SSR.
I can not find a Douglas Randall Relay with that part number.
is anyone else able to find it?
Thanks,
Patrick

[minoly]

Stephen
I used a HFS33 solid state relay.
John

Ok, I'll ask...
the only reference I find with that part number is a HongFa SSR.
I can not find a Douglas Randall Relay with that part number.
is anyone else able to find it?
Thanks,
Patrick

[John_Bedini]

Hfs33

P.S.
I love hearing about Ed and his mysterious wheel.
Keep it coming John.
Ideally I would like to understand the mystery before I get a chance to ask Ed himself.
But at least we know - All will be answered in time???

Stephen
I used a HFS33 solid state relay.
John

[Stephen Brown]

P.S.
I love hearing about Ed and his mysterious wheel.
Keep it coming John.
Ideally I would like to understand the mystery before I get a chance to ask Ed himself.
But at least we know - All will be answered in time???

[Stephen Brown]

getting my cap dump ready for our 7'GT build
Bedini Energizer SS SSG with cap dump - YouTube

using the K08A - one wire in, one wire out.
it would not work on the breakdown so my box has a little more inside, I used something similar to the schematic i posted on the last page here.
I'm running it on our SS SSG to see how it goes...
Patrick

Patrick, (John or Chuck)
My K12A wouldn't work in breakdown mode either.
Even over 100 volts.
Not quite sure what was wrong. Maybe there's not a FET in there.

Maybe John or Chuck could tell us exactly which Douglas Randall Relay is being shown in the little box? K12B?

I'm going to set my system up like yours since the MJLs get too hot and seem to use up too much energy when running/dumping fast. Putting heat dissipation on them seems counterproductive.
I also tried running several MJLs in parallel. Still too much heat.

On my SS SSG, I've managed to get 4 separate coils running in series with one trigger, confirming the expandability of your setup. (4 X 18g X 150' each)
All it took was a jumper wire from the base of the trigger MJL, to the base of one slave on the added coil, and the rest of the circuits on the added coil would run. No need for a darlington to enhance the trigger signal on the separate coil.

Will post as soon as I get back from an out of town visit to see my sister.
Cheers to you all and your good works.
Stephen

[minoly]

SS relay

getting my cap dump ready for our 7'GT build
Bedini Energizer SS SSG with cap dump - YouTube

using the K08A - one wire in, one wire out.
it would not work on the breakdown so my box has a little more inside, I used something similar to the schematic i posted on the last page here.
I'm running it on our SS SSG to see how it goes...
Patrick

[Les_K]

Precisly why I posted that it would have been nice if he had had a chance to measure down the side of the horshoe in the video. At first I thought perhaps the north had been moved down the side. But then after thinking about this I realized maybe something else was going on. As we recall, the magnets run against each other. looking at this on page 5.
....And that the streams of individual magnets are running one kind of magnets against the other kind.....
Consider what would happen if you were to remove one of the streams...Say south?
Wouldn't that leave a north running stream. and would't that have a reaction to another magnetic pole but not our instruments?

I don't know which it would be, moving the north magnet down the side or removing the stream.

Les

ooops, I forgot to add one last thing to that.
page 37.
" I have a generator that generates currents on a small scale from the air without using any magnets around it."

given everything else he just taught us in the book What's up with that?
No magnets?

Les

[Les_K]

Thanks John, I understand about the Iron bar. I remember (thanks EN!) the drawing you posted a long time back.

As for the monopole, something in Ed's book had me thinking:

"When you are making a magnet pole in the welding rod use U shape magnet. South pole magnet to make North pole magnet in the rod and use U shape North Pole magnet to make South Pole magnet in the rod. You can drag the magnet over the rod from end to end, but never stop in middle.
If you stop in middle there will be an extra pole so it will disturb the magnet's circulation. Use iron filings to test the rod if there is any magnets in the middle, and if there is the filings will cling to it. Then drag the permanent magnet over the rod and it will take it out."


John K.

Precisly why I posted that it would have been nice if he had had a chance to measure down the side of the horshoe in the video. At first I thought perhaps the north had been moved down the side. But then after thinking about this I realized maybe something else was going on. As we recall, the magnets run against each other. looking at this on page 5.
....And that the streams of individual magnets are running one kind of magnets against the other kind.....
Consider what would happen if you were to remove one of the streams...Say south?
Wouldn't that leave a north running stream. and would't that have a reaction to another magnetic pole but not our instruments?

I don't know which it would be, moving the north magnet down the side or removing the stream.

Les

[John_K]

Ed's Wheel

Ed had a big Iron bar there from what David said, but we will be able to Ask him soon. The unit Ed had was in his room. The wheel uses that type of arrangement on the Axial Motor but re-gauges in-between. Dave said something else was mounted on the other side. Your talking about the clover leaf at the top, that could be the north field I did not try that but I could to see where the pole ends up. I did have Dave check for that but it did not indicate that. I should have asked him today but I forgot and got busy. Yes they do attract like normal poles. I do not think the electronic detector can measure a monopole. Ed was good at making them. Dave said he tried to follow the pipes in the walls but could not see where they ended up. I will ask him the questions when he calls back. He also said the guide knew more then he was telling.
John

Thanks John, I understand about the Iron bar. I remember (thanks EN!) the drawing you posted a long time back.

As for the monopole, something in Ed's book had me thinking:

"When you are making a magnet pole in the welding rod use U shape magnet. South pole magnet to make North pole magnet in the rod and use U shape North Pole magnet to make South Pole magnet in the rod. You can drag the magnet over the rod from end to end, but never stop in middle.
If you stop in middle there will be an extra pole so it will disturb the magnet's circulation. Use iron filings to test the rod if there is any magnets in the middle, and if there is the filings will cling to it. Then drag the permanent magnet over the rod and it will take it out."


John K.

[john_g]

[mklimesh]

That was nice visualization, Thanks Patrick (+_+)

Mike Klimesh

this vid only applies to my own posts, it is not a comment on what anyone else has noted:

Magnetic Currents - a method for visualization - YouTube

as always,
Patrick

[minoly]

I like the monopole theory.

are those weld marks I see, pounded forced metal?
kind of like what Floyd Sweet was doing with his magnets?

Patrick

this vid only applies to my own posts, it is not a comment on what anyone else has noted:

Magnetic Currents - a method for visualization - YouTube

as always,
Patrick