Bedini Ferris Wheel Regauging Motor

[Ron Chase]

[QUOTE=minoly;185250]Ron,
Thanks for uploading that schematic. That's a nice compilation of the ckt and dump!


@ Patrick
@ Brent

I've been running my wheel with the Crydom SSR I mentioned earlier and it tends to run hot. Since it doesn't lend itself to heat sinking I think its better for small wheel 12V systems. I'm switching to a Magnecraft SSR, Mouser part# 528-6312AXXMDS-DC3 for my 5 foot wheel and it can be easily heatsinked. I definitely need it since I'm charging larger capacity batteries now.

Ron

[Les_K]

Mmmm,

John k,
This was in my original notes on the machine construction.

I have four statements under the slave coils.
1 - "Slave coils 1/2 the impedance of the center coil"
2 - "Pulsed with south for attraction" (This circled in my notes usually means not JB)
3 - "Repulsion mode for whole machine" - This had a note saying Definitely JB
4 - "Weak south"

Maybe I interpreted that incorrectly?
I'll go change it back.
Once again...Thanks

Les

[John_K]

John K,

Ok I had a small problem I was able to fix. It's funny we didn't catch it earlier.
The two outside coils should create a south when the Center creates a north. I reversed the wires on the outside coils and the charging has improved quite a bit. I am probably at about an 80% to 90% efficient machine. So there is still some work to do. I am pretty sure a lot of those losses are in my comparator circuit.

As concerning the what happens when we switch off I ran into this video
Magnetic Monopole - YouTube

As I think about the outer coils being south and the center north, as well as why you wanted to get into what happens when the SSG switches off, I am beginning to see something new about the streams and how they are being separated. I think this relates to the videos at coral castle JB posted as well. What do you think?

Les

Les,

Where did you read that the 2 outside coils should be a south and not a north?
I must have missed that one

Sorry I have a problem watching YouTube ATM.


John K

[Les_K]

Hey Les,

That's looking great!

It looks like you are pretty darn close right there.

I think it's time to just let it run and see what sort of charging and loading you get out of it.


John K.

John K,

Ok I had a small problem I was able to fix. It's funny we didn't catch it earlier.
The two outside coils should create a south when the Center creates a north. I reversed the wires on the outside coils and the charging has improved quite a bit. I am probably at about an 80% to 90% efficient machine. So there is still some work to do. I am pretty sure a lot of those losses are in my comparator circuit.

As concerning the what happens when we switch off I ran into this video
Magnetic Monopole - YouTube

As I think about the outer coils being south and the center north, as well as why you wanted to get into what happens when the SSG switches off, I am beginning to see something new about the streams and how they are being separated. I think this relates to the videos at coral castle JB posted as well. What do you think?

Les

[Les_K]

Patrick,
Nice, I'll have to look for one of those.

Les

[minoly]

Ron,
Thanks for uploading that schematic. That's a nice compilation of the ckt and dump!

Les,
do you have one of these laying around?
Free Three Phase Alternator - YouTube
might be a nice add on for a load :-)

back to work for me...
Patrick

[Les_K]

On to the Gen....

Les K.

Add a small load to the shaft of your wheel and that will make the hall adjust a little less sensitive. The load represents the regauging motor load on JB's wheel and is necessary for final tuning. You can optimize for max torque at the shaft, minimum current draw and maximum charging.\

Ron

Ron,
I have some ideas for that, I thought a lot about air core, but that's not going to do it.
I think I have found my answer. But have some testing to do.

Les

[valllhalla]

Interesting

Atomic Feng Shui - What a Magnet Is and Why Part 6 - (SEE DOCUMENT IN THE DESCRIPTION) - YouTube

[Ron Chase]

Ok Check this out..

http://youtu.be/4pE1ZnEvyg0

This is when I have it set to just before the center with the given rotation. It is interesting how narrow the tuning of the hall actually becomes at this point.Les

Les K.

Add a small load to the shaft of your wheel and that will make the hall adjust a little less sensitive. The load represents the regauging motor load on JB's wheel and is necessary for final tuning. You can optimize for max torque at the shaft, minimum current draw and maximum charging.\

Ron

[Ron Chase]

Patrick,

When you get ready to run your big wheel try this cap dump circuit. It's similar to what John K posted awhile back just different components. It works well on my 5 foot wheel.

Ron

[minoly]

Sorry about that,
In this case I am talking about the potential difference between the MJL21193 Collectors and the MJL21194 Collectors. Or in other words looking across the coil...

http://www.energeticforum.com/132235-post1213.html

And from post #20
The currents are not important here in the front-end as this current is limited by the isolation of the power supply rails by the BEDINI/COLE switch.

In this latter case John is talking about the power rails themselves. But this is part of what I was thinking.


Les

got it :-)
while the timing can definitely be changed, there is a fairly large window for amplifying the signal without influencing the timing or input.
Patrick

[Les_K]

Sorry about that,
In this case I am talking about the potential difference between the MJL21193 Collectors and the MJL21194 Collectors. Or in other words looking across the coil...

http://www.energeticforum.com/132235-post1213.html

And from post #20
The currents are not important here in the front-end as this current is limited by the isolation of the power supply rails by the BEDINI/COLE switch.

In this latter case John is talking about the power rails themselves. But this is part of what I was thinking.


Les

[minoly]

Patrick,
I will be thinking about this as well. Essentially this would be changing the timing between the rails.

Les

Sorry... what are rails?
Patrick

[Les_K]

John,
I will run a few cycles and see how it does. The comparator circuit is the next weak link I am sure. But hopefully we can begin to look more into the machine itself. Since it plays with the magnetic streams, I would like to find out how to see more about what is happening in terms of the interferometry.

Patrick,
I will be thinking about this as well. Essentially this would be changing the timing between the rails.

Les

[minoly]

Ooops!

This is the right video... Sorry about that....
NewTiming.mp4 - YouTube

Les

Les, your timing looks dead on to me, the scope is identical to JB's and your dump happens exactly as JB describes that it should in DVD 28

have you played much with adjusting the mpsa06 to mjl21193 resistance? Maybe after you do a run or two...
thank you for keeping up with this and plugging away with it so we can all see and learn.
Patrick