Bedini Ferris Wheel Regauging Motor

[Aaron]

@Jetijs

the compressed N and S poles are.

Ok, so just to confirm, I think you posted that wheel a long time ago.
Anyway, your poles are alternating super poles?

Your post already answered that I think but just want to make sure.

[Jetijs]

Interesting everyidea
I put a PMH near my rotating Leedskalin wheel. The PMH poles are so far apart that it matches perfectly to the points where the compressed N and S poles are. Works like a generator, the higher the speed, the greater voltage, so far I tried to light up one LED, it barely lights, but the generator effect is there. Nothing new to report so far.

[Turion]

Ahhhhhh!!!!

This may be lengthy, so please bear with me. I follow lots of different threads here, and much of the time what is going on is over my head because my experience with all things electrical (except house wiring) is limited. The one good thing about that is that I have no preconceived notions of how things SHOULD work. I am a high school principal, and beginning in January there will be a short unit added to the science curriculum at my school on the monopole motor. My contribution to getting young minds to think just a little differently. Even if I have to fund it out of my own pocket, that WILL be happening.

Whenever I can, I build something, if I have enough info that I think I could get it somewhere close to running. I have a couple things that work well, including my monopole, BUT I am in the Monopole3 group, starting at the beginning, just to make sure I learn as much as possible. I learned a long time ago that you have building blocks in learning, and missing one means no foundation for the next step. My son was failing math in his sophomore year in high school, trig I believe, so we began at the beginning of the book. When we hit the concept he had missed, everything clicked into place for him, and he went on to excel in math.

I have a Kromrey I built, but which is not doing what it should, and several other projects in the works. I build, I screw up. I build some more. And I never give up.

I appreciate all the work and all the contributions that you people make to the effort to replicate this technology, and I look forward to the day when enough of you understand how to build it that you can walk those of us with limited experience through the concepts step by step, teaching us the truth of it as opposed to what my son was taught step by step in his engineering classes at the university where he trained to be an electrical engineer. I know some of you look at that as spoon feeding, and I know John wants us to learn by doing. I'm not talking about teaching us how to build a device step by step, I'm talking about the concepts step by step, and then having us apply those concepts to something and figuring out why it works or does not work. I think that's the only way the average guy will ever learn to build this stuff, which is why I think things like the monopole3 group are so important. Learn the basics or you will be lost later on. Take things step by step.

John, as a professional educator with 35 years as a teacher and administrator, I wish there was a way to collaborate on putting together a curriculum that could be introduced into the system to teach young people this information in an exploratory manner so that they would get involved in hands on learning. I am one of those that believe that the children are our future, and I would love to make sure that our future includes a time when everyone knows how to use these concepts to improve our lives and the lives of all the people in the world. To be part of something like that would be incredible.

Meanwhile, I will keep banging my head against the wall with all the others, because I believe that wall is so full of cracks right now that it could come tumbling down at any moment. I remember when Regan said "Mr Gorbachev, tear down that wall." I believe another moment, just as historic, is close at hand, but until people like me, with only basic skills, can replicate this technology, we are still a long way from where we need to be.

Once again, thank you everyone, for all that you do. The conference was amazing. I'm bringing my wife and my son to the next one. He can pay his own way though. As an engineer, he makes more than his old man.

[everyidea]

Would something like this work as a gen/motor? I noticed he had a ton of coiled bottles laying around and thought I'd use them. Around the wheel he only has two wooden ledges to use as supports, so that leaves me to believe he used one for a motor support and the other as the generator support.

rw

[Armagdn03]

I believe that when it was free wheeling in front of us all day.
Had the generator coils not been present the Lenz free motor would have continued to accelerate. While the coils were off the Lenz that was present controlled this from happening. "42 lbs of attraction"
But when the whole thing was running this effect was controlled by the axle motor and the time it switched based on the need to reduce Lenz around the energizer as theorized in my above thread.

Matt

You may be right, however I was under the impression that it was freewheeling with the re-gauging of the barium ferrite magnets during most of the session,

however when it was being fully run, the barium ferrite section turned into a generator to keep it from spinning up too fast.

[Matthew Jones]

@ Jardee

Why then did john say the generator was used to keep the wheel from spinning up to fast at the conference? Sounds like lenz to me. I am not saying you are wrong, I just would like that a straight.

I believe that when it was free wheeling in front of us all day.
Had the generator coils not been present the Lenz free motor would have continued to accelerate. While the coils were off the Lenz that was present controlled this from happening. "42 lbs of attraction"
But when the whole thing was running this effect was controlled by the axle motor and the time it switched based on the need to reduce Lenz around the energizer as theorized in my above thread.

Matt

[Matthew Jones]

I hate to keep countering Jerdee but...


The green lines are the magnetic poles of the permanent magnets on the ferris wheels.
If you look and the position the coils would be in there is no effect from Lenz because everything is balanced out, an equal amount of attraction and repulsion.
If you look to the center 8 circles (in the drawing) that redirect. This is the key to why everything balances out. John used the Bariums, and could dynamical change poles so he could isolate the between his coil positions at 8 oclock to 5 oclock.
Unless one of us has figured how to get hold of bariums and make them oscillate fields, WE ARE GOING to have to chase this effect around the full 360 of the wheel where it would normally reside. Our solution may not be a model that resembles Johns at all.

If you start to think about this field arrangement as a possibility it makes it easier to see why the axle motor could run the entire wheel, and not have to deal with the attraction of the outer magnets to coil. The regauging also effected the field on the outer band as well.

If I am right, or we can figure this thing out and gets confirmed then I can make an animation of something to show this effect. Although I have picture its hard to describe.

Matt

[Armagdn03]

My previous post had lenz law fighting me in the slave coils, this was the downfall.



Know I see the interferometry!! It's the dual counter wound coils!!! Is this what what drove GE nuts, biased voltage with little current?

Also this is what I believe is happening at the axle motor/generator.
This is how I see the barium ferrite regauged between the north poles!!!!!
You said equal and opposite phases.
We have to create no lenz law at the switch...No current needed!!! Drop it below!!!

Can hardly sleep here!!!

Thank you John!!!

@ Jardee

Why then did john say the generator was used to keep the wheel from spinning up to fast at the conference? Sounds like lenz to me. I am not saying you are wrong, I just would like that a straight.

[jerdee]

No Lenz's Law from Sweet 16

Jerdee, great theory, however what is the downfall of the switch? and how is it wasting power?

My previous post had lenz law fighting me in the slave coils, this was the downfall.

Three coils. what do they make up geometrical wise?

Now I see the interferometry!! It's the dual counter wound coils!!! Is this what drove GE nuts, biased voltage with little current?

Also this is what I believe is happening at the axle motor/generator.
This is how I see the barium ferrite regauged between the north poles!!!!!
You said equal and opposite phases.
We have to create no lenz law at the switch...No current needed!!! Drop it below!!!

Can hardly sleep here!!!

Thank you John!!!

[John_Bedini]

Big Bedini Motor

Mathew,
Do not be fooled by the chins hanging in front of the coil, what do you see at the magnets across two poles, ED's iron coil. I assure you this is not a riddle it's a down right dirty torque motor or generator. You saw one run right in front of your face at the conference, just arranged different with pie shaped barium magnets.
As a matter speaking Rick had the makings of one on the 30 coiler. To bad we can't wind that coil. Ed's quote ( I have made more electricity with iron wire then copper.) And keeping you up all night did you good. after all you got the switch to work. Make it you will see. and it's not a Monopole
John B

[Matthew Jones]

The works of this machine have been discovered many times and many different geometries. I do know what the machine should look like and what it could do it could be used for two different functions/ or combined functions. he left two different things and the group just needs to put it together it should be what their after.
John B

Well I still feelsomewhat lost. There are parts missing. But to me I do not feel that it was just generator. It also seems to have a motor function. Looking around at the part while he is standing there are alot of pulleys and chains at generator. Why?
http://www.coralcastlecode.com/siteb...ures/deons.jpg

The coils are also present One on the pole and one just front of the device as the camera is looking at. The one at the for front of the camera is also connected to the chain.

If one looks at this image we can see the correlation between the machine and this drawing.
http://www.coralcastlecode.com/siteb...sebasebase.jpg

But the center is the interesting part. The current top views of the generator show 8 holes present. Most likely this was the motor. The 8 holes contained magnets. Of course they are missing.

The only other motor function I can seem to find is a little off the wall but again if you look at those chains kinked up. The pipe they are connected to if they are locked in Like the motion holder they very well may be emitting some sort of field that the outer poles are synced with. This interaction may cause a motor effect. And even those inner magnets (If that what was there) might play into somehow and might even be the key to flipping the current and tricking the Lenz from showing up. So it would self run.
Lenz would would need to be eliminated.

It late I need sleep, A Bedini riddle will keep you up all night.

Matt

[John_Bedini]

Big Bedini Motor

Cody,
Yes Yes.
You Win
Now let's make it run as a motor how many switching pole would you need assuming that you only had 12 super pole magnets?.
You do not half to answer all at once, where would the recharge come from and what would the fields look like, and assuming that you did not have any magnets could you still make it run. Now what is my Axel motor?
John B

If Eds "flywheel" were to be a motor or generator it would need a coil. Perhaps thats where the PMH comes in. It would achieve a similiar result to what you are doing by extending your cores at the bottom, accept eds machine used alternating poles and yours is a monopole. So maybe the machine would look like this.

[John_Bedini]

Big Bedini Machine

Redrichie,

Ok just what is it that concerns you here about these symbols and numbers?
JB

at the entrance to coral castle the star of david. ADM.10 cents drop below. Not cents PHI!!! the golden ratio. John you say Delta PHI. Phi is also the number 21. where do we see this at the castle? on the door with a 16 point sun in the center, and at the bottom right the earth written and 21 over the top.

http://www.code144.com/img/cc-maintour/cc29.jpg

http://www.code144.com/img/cc-maintour/scc08.jpg

[carmine]

What does the machine look like

The question is. What does the machine look like

... A gear ?

[cody]

I know that, that is not what concerns me here. The PHI current is the last thing I'm looking for right at the moment. As I can gather that from the coils. The question is. What does the machine look like . I have somebody that lives very close to the coral castle. He says that more then a pipe is in the ground, but I'm not looking for antigravity here. ED had pipes everywhere for his experiments. The works of this machine have been discovered many times and many different geometries. I do know what the machine should look like and what it could do it could be used for two different functions/ or combined functions. he left two different things and the group just needs to put it together it should be what their after.
John B

If Eds "flywheel" were to be a motor or generator it would need a coil. Perhaps thats where the PMH comes in. It would achieve a similiar result to what you are doing by extending your cores at the bottom, accept eds machine used alternating poles and yours is a monopole. So maybe the machine would look like this.