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  • ibpointless2
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    Originally posted by CosmicFarmer View Post
    Hello all, just popped my head in to read everything. I will replicate this soon as this is really simple and I already have the parts... Sometime before monday. I don't have red leds, just every other color imaginable.. ahah where did I leave my reds... Maybe I'll try color change ones with a crystal

    Anyway, this is my imagination on whats going on... I have not seen anyone say this before but I think that there might be a semiconductor junction beyond that of a simple diode in the capacitor for it to show an AC waveform. This is all based on what other people have shown so I do not know myself yet.

    regardless, what about the possibility that in the right capacitor there not only is a capacitive element, an inductive element (double scroll construction) as well as a semiconductor element (phantom diode or phantom transistor)? Also, a used or conditioned capacitor might have corrosion on the plates that lead to inadvertent semiconductors.

    So basically in one part we have everything needed to make an oscillator. Hm.

    @IBpointless2 - please let that double battery captret run for a long time, like a week or a month.

    There is a possibility that the capacitor is making the battery warm up which increases its voltage, but I would only imagine that could happen when current is being used, as it is now the captret is a voltage only junction which seems to halt current, at least up to the sensitivity of our meters.


    I like the idea of resonant crystal and coil, I think this must be explored further. I have a collection of fresh resonators at harmonic numbers of each other, if someone can imagine a smart way to hook them up I will try it.

    About Miki's post, where she thinks that the capacitor is somehow receiving ambient RF. Would the area of that tiny capacitor be large enough to capture enough ambient RF to power a LED? You would have to be very close to a transmission source, or use a near field antenna idea, but even then I don't think it could happen that way.

    To be honest it looks like Miki joined here just to dispute the captret effect, and on several peoples videos there are extensive debunkings by people who have no videos... If we were outright wrong in doing something, sometimes people let them go ahead and be wrong, but if we are onto something right, then maybe paid people will come along and try to throw knowledge around and discredit what is happening???? I don't know.

    It does seem to be a vary small amount of voltage gain, but that's why we need to have a very long test done. Its analogous to ground power research, where you need to have a log book of weeks to totally understand something, instead of just hours.


    I'll try to keep it running for a while. It started on 11-11-10 in the evening at a standing voltage of 17.17 volts. Now its at 17.21 volts and it wants to be at 17.22 volts.

    Tried this again with a different battery, a 12 19 amp hour battery. the standing voltage was 12.44 volts and now its 12.45 volts.

    I think i need different capacitors to get better charging.

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  • electricity
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  • electricity
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    I got booted off, cache error.

    heres the pic

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  • electricity
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    Can you handle the NAKED TRUTH?

    I have been watching my little 9v captret lighting non stop for 3 straight days. As usual, I want to get down to the TRUTH. So I let the LED drain the battery for a whole day.

    Finally, It was @5.6V. Dead as Dead.

    I pulled off the 9 led and 400v captret and swap for 250v 2200 uf electrolytic capacitor with fast switching diode, Volt sarted rising. hmmm, It's not LED Photon or what ever mambo jambo that everyone loves to hallucinate. Then I pulled off the diode and attach the negative from capacitor directly to the battery negative attached to the capacitor housing. Ahhh ..there lays the Magic. Volts across the capacitor jumped from 2.54v to 5.8v and Volt goes up fast.

    There you have it, Nothing special here. It is FREE ENERGY via electrochemical induced currents, self charging the source. Nice and simple.

    Look at the picture, the Cap is at least 4x the size of the battery. Now build some large electrolytic capacitor as I had instructed and charge your Lead Acid for free, and quickly. I am charging mine as I write this.

    Nature is simple, Lets forget the moronic mambo jumbo such as scalar, photon or what ever that's loaded in your head. Get back to basic, Nature is Simple, let's keep it that way.

    I now wonder why I never did learn about Elecrochemical Induction.

    Volt climbed to 6.9 within 1 hour. I added another 250v 2200 uf in series, now it's singing. Fast cheap charging.

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  • jonnydavro
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    @IBpointless2.Thanks for posting this interesting circuit .Others may have experimented in this area in the past but your method is so easily replicated with off the shelf parts,anyone can try it and see for themselves that there is something going on which is not the norm.
    From looking at Lidmotors latest vid on the captret,I would say that there is a phantom resistor along with the phantom diode which is basically turning a cheap electrolitic cap into a supercap as that is how Lids captret is behaving with the slow discharge.This phantom resistor may also be an automatic variable resistor and may change as the cap charge decreases and so acts like the voltage regulator Lid refered too which by itself makes your captret a quite remarkable device and well worth continued investigation.
    I also have the feeling that the capacity of Lidmotors cap has been increased as it seems to be lighting that led for a mighty long time for such a small cap and it would be interesting to see an identical cap with a resistor in a run time test against Lids captret and maybe some capacity measurements of the two caps which this device seems to be.Nice work everyone.Jonny

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  • CosmicFarmer
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    Hello all, just popped my head in to read everything. I will replicate this soon as this is really simple and I already have the parts... Sometime before monday. I don't have red leds, just every other color imaginable.. ahah where did I leave my reds... Maybe I'll try color change ones with a crystal

    Anyway, this is my imagination on whats going on... I have not seen anyone say this before but I think that there might be a semiconductor junction beyond that of a simple diode in the capacitor for it to show an AC waveform. This is all based on what other people have shown so I do not know myself yet.

    regardless, what about the possibility that in the right capacitor there not only is a capacitive element, an inductive element (double scroll construction) as well as a semiconductor element (phantom diode or phantom transistor)? Also, a used or conditioned capacitor might have corrosion on the plates that lead to inadvertent semiconductors.

    So basically in one part we have everything needed to make an oscillator. Hm.

    @IBpointless2 - please let that double battery captret run for a long time, like a week or a month.

    There is a possibility that the capacitor is making the battery warm up which increases its voltage, but I would only imagine that could happen when current is being used, as it is now the captret is a voltage only junction which seems to halt current, at least up to the sensitivity of our meters.


    I like the idea of resonant crystal and coil, I think this must be explored further. I have a collection of fresh resonators at harmonic numbers of each other, if someone can imagine a smart way to hook them up I will try it.

    About Miki's post, where she thinks that the capacitor is somehow receiving ambient RF. Would the area of that tiny capacitor be large enough to capture enough ambient RF to power a LED? You would have to be very close to a transmission source, or use a near field antenna idea, but even then I don't think it could happen that way.

    To be honest it looks like Miki joined here just to dispute the captret effect, and on several peoples videos there are extensive debunkings by people who have no videos... If we were outright wrong in doing something, sometimes people let them go ahead and be wrong, but if we are onto something right, then maybe paid people will come along and try to throw knowledge around and discredit what is happening???? I don't know.

    It does seem to be a vary small amount of voltage gain, but that's why we need to have a very long test done. Its analogous to ground power research, where you need to have a log book of weeks to totally understand something, instead of just hours.

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  • Lidmotor
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    Captret with an Exciter

    @All
    I worked with the Captret today using several Exciter circuits. Here is one of the more interesting setups that I did. The way that the LED stays on after the power is removed is very interesting.

    YouTube - Captret working with an Exciter circuit.ASF

    Cheers,
    Lidmotor

    P.S. I suggest reading or re-reading Dr. Stiffler's paper on the Captret.http://67.76.235.52/capret.htm I just spent a day working with this thing and after reading his paper again what I saw today makes more sense to me. I don't think that this is a magic device but that doesn't mean that we can't find a good use for it somehow.
    Last edited by Lidmotor; 11-13-2010, 08:30 AM.

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  • ibpointless2
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    Update on the self charging captret aka dosen't play by the rules.

    recap:
    I let two of my 9 volt batteries sit while i went to school and then to work, a good 12 hours.

    I hooked them up to the new circuit that had a capacitor in series, for the hell of it.

    The standing voltage from when i got home from work was 17.17 volts on both together. Keep in mind that these two have never been separated since i got them, they are just one battery now and shall not be separated ever.

    I hook it up to the circuit and it stays at 17.17 volts while lighting the LED, the LED was very dim and still is.

    I left it running all night while i slept, had to wake up early i had english at 8am.

    Woke up this morning to find the LED still going but now the batteries were at 17.19 volts.

    So i left it alone and went to school and work, when i got home its at 17.20 volts and its flashing back in forth between 17.20 and 17.21, as if it wants to be at 17.21 volts.

    To sum it all up.

    standing voltage = 17.17 volts
    under load = 17.17 volts
    the next moring under load = 17.19 volts
    after work under load = 17.20 volts and it wants to go to 17.21 volts

    I think i see a pattern


    Like i said my captrets don't like to play by the rules.

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  • thedude
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    Originally posted by seth View Post
    Games??? No games Dr Stiffler. I have no idea why you have taken such a dislike towards me, but i can assure you its not warranted.
    Hey Seth. Sorry about Dr Stiffler. I read your post to which he accused you of playing games and was a bit confused. I assumed you and he had prior confrontation of some sort.

    My take was that your were making some pretty straight forward observations, following a line of experimentation and contributing to the discussion. He made no attempt to inquire about what you were doing, just accusations, which seriously sucks.

    Dr Stiffler has a standing bet in which he denies the very existence of COP>1 . Its a pretence that seems to make him quite abrasive to open discussion. I've found that he will take a stance based on a fairly qualified position and publish a statement regarding any device that exhibits high efficiency that approaches COP>1 in any way. I would like to hear his take on what Steorn is doing quite publicly.

    Often these sort of tactics can be discouraging to those of us with out PHDs. In my opinion we need more people who are willing to do the experiments, not less. I'm not sure Dr would agree. I'm glad your not discouraged. Its a developmental process that we go through. Not everyone arrives at the same conclusions at the same time. Sometimes during the investigation we reveal new concepts along the way. Keep up the work.

    All that being said, I do encourage people to take voltage readings between the 0 (case) and Positive and negative leads comparatively as well its standing voltage as your devices are running. More can be revealed with this information.

    Thanks for your video.
    Last edited by thedude; 11-13-2010, 01:25 AM.

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  • electricity
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    Electrolyte update

    For DIY captret, I found Ethylene glycol (Antifreeze diluted 50%) to work very well. I have a bank of 4 (Red Bull 12 oz) captret rigged up, this will be fun!

    I can't seem to edit my older postings

    Happy tinkering!

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  • ibpointless2
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    Originally posted by rave154 View Post
    ibepointless...

    if youve got..what you think youve got ( and i hope you do , still doing my own messy tests here btw ).... then boy....is B*dini gonna be pissed ! lol no rotors....no magnets....no spinny-twirly thingies...no coils....lol.....oh boy

    I love this, made my day!

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  • Cherryman
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    Hi,

    Just thinking out loud..

    If the cap is somehow influenced by (magnetic) induction, flux whatever.. I wonder what would happen if you replace the "crocodile" connection of the cap with a coil of fine wire.



    Or maybe some magnets (on a baring)



    Finally i would suggest a 2 meter long loose wire (antenna) to either one of the posts ( The Tesla electric car "antenna" ;-)

    Anyway.. Keep up the good work, i'm off dreaming again.

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  • electricity
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    Other self charging electochemical cell

    Self-rechargeable, medium level ... - Google Patent Search

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  • Jbignes5
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    update on other setup...

    I went and got me some 220uf 16v caps and with just 2 in parallel I am getting the same brightness as I did with the 5 200 volt caps.

    This is how weak this battery is. When I started before the changeover the battery was reading 9.35v. After I changed the caps it now reads 8.89 and climbing slowly. I am still running the smaller caps now but it seems they are better then all the biggest caps that I had.

    This is for the original setup. Thats what I originally had that worked so well except for no gains on the battery beyond the starting voltage. Thats no problem. Although the other circuit i will still work on with the other battery that i had.

    Now I wanted to get the new setup straight IBpointless. I'll have to look for the diagram again i think it was on this page somewhere.

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