Don't Kill Dipole

[dragon]

Is that motor an AC or DC motor? I just put a quick circuit together using a DC motor and it works fine as a generator lighting the LED's but won't allow the motor to run or continue. An AC motor on the other hand, which I don't have, may work.....

Anyone know what motor he was using?
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[Jbignes5]

hmmm

Slovenia
Thank you for starting this thread,and for your honesty about your skills and understanding!

I will share this link elsewhere ,this harvesting from the Dipole is "tricky" business .
@Jbignes5
Thank you for sharing your Knowledge!
I have a few quick movies to share [with schematics] that I would appreciate Your comments on
[a compilation from "Forest" at OU forum}

YouTube - MIT Physics Demo -- Dissectible Capacitor

YouTube - Capacitor charge via motor and diode

YouTube - Free Electrical Energy 2

The idea being , vid # 1 shows the "effect" .Can we use the motor in vid #2 to do what the man in #3 is doing to "Harvest" [Trick the Dipole]??

Simple circuits to try??

Chet

The second vid only runs down because all his piping (wires) are leaking the charges away. If he had used statically shielded wires I bet it would have lasted quite some time.

Let me think more about what you proposed. I need to watch the videos a few more times. And the first video was what got me started into looking into statics so...


Ok upon a further review of the process in the third video it seems to me that the potential stored in the cap can be discharged faster hence pulling in more charges from the environment into the system causing an apparent higher charge to flow through the spark gap. But this is a rehash of what we have been saying all along. Caps will always be able to put out more in less time because the battery is a steady state device and the cap is a transitional one. Remember that in it's construction the battery is long and steady on it's potential and the cap can thrust it out a lot faster then the battery. This difference makes it appear that the battery is not capable of doing the same time compression of the pulse. It's like comparing a water pump with a certain psi over time to a super compressed water balloon. they contain the same stuff inside but the method of storage is different. One is designed for steady output and the other is a mere container that is capable of huge bursts. This analogy might not be the best but it is the best I can give atm.

Capacitors are just leyden jars. When designed properly they have the ability to hold more to be used in burst mode in the most efficient manner possible. Although they can be used to smooth a batteries output as well they have higher abilities to supply the biggest bang for you buck or input. It is this bang we should be interested in in combination with the ability to hold a charge for extended amounts of time in a separate part of the circuit.

Try this: design a coil that is resonant by using full wave half wave or one quarter wave. Feedd that to a leyden jar or cap then have that discharge into a larger leyden jar for use as a storage tank to provide potential over a long time. This is the process Tesla and other have used. It works. The trick is to not use or deplete the storage bank and to utilize the potential only of that storage bank. How do we do that Well one wire would be sufficient to do that Right? If your system is designed correctly then it will not deplete the storage cap and then all one would need to do is maintain that potential if your system is leaky.

[Jbignes5]

Let me first submit this.

Check this video out and at 2:07 we see that they indeed knew about the grid that is under matter and space.

YouTube - The Pyramid Code - Ep4 - The Empowered Human part 1/5

You want to pay attention to the bowl that the person is holding. This six sided shape in the grid is most fundamental especially when water freezes. If you look at snow flakes you will see that six sided shape in the middle. I believe this is a snap shot of the network amplified by fractal growth of the water as it freezes.

This means that they indeed knew about the grid that underlies all matter and space.

[RAMSET]

Slovenia
Thank you for starting this thread,and for your honesty about your skills and understanding!

I will share this link elsewhere ,this harvesting from the Dipole is "tricky" business .
@Jbignes5
Thank you for sharing your Knowledge!
I have a few quick movies to share [with schematics] that I would appreciate Your comments on
[a compilation from "Forest" at OU forum}

YouTube - MIT Physics Demo -- Dissectible Capacitor

YouTube - Capacitor charge via motor and diode

YouTube - Free Electrical Energy 2

The idea being , vid # 1 shows the "effect" .Can we use the motor in vid #2 to do what the man in #3 is doing to "Harvest" [Trick the Dipole]??

Simple circuits to try??

Chet

[Jbignes5]

Something has been bothering me. Once we've solved this don't kill the dipole problem and have new working circuits and motors that fit this criteria, are we going to have to replace all our pre-existing electrical machines such as but not limited to washers and dryers, televisions, computers, motors of all types and the list goes on, with new devices that meet the criteria or will we be able to have our own free energy type generator in each of our homes that will enable us to run all these obsolete machines without having to replace them? Ideally I know it would be our ultimate goal to have all electrical equipment running more efficiently with the new technology but it would be very expensive to have to replace all these goods now. If we're not paying for the electricity because the power source is our personal equipment we don't really care if the machines we are already using waste electricity or not.

Also, there may be a way to use only minimal electricity from the power company to start up our equipment and then once it's running it won't need any more input electricity. We might be able to have some master device in our house that works like this in lieu of having a free energy generator.

I know I'm jumping the gun here, but I have been plagued by this question for to long.

My goal is to get off the grid completely and that is what I am shooting for.

Actually this energy is very very convertable. We can use it in it's normal mode or convert it to conventional electricity so we will only need a converter that would be built into this machine that generates from this new source. All one would need to do is have the grid come and disconnect us and walla hook it up to the existing box where the grid used to hook to and you are in business...

[Slovenia]

Jumping The Gun

Something has been bothering me. Once we've solved this don't kill the dipole problem and have new working circuits and motors that fit this criteria, are we going to have to replace all our pre-existing electrical machines such as but not limited to washers and dryers, televisions, computers, motors of all types and the list goes on, with new devices that meet the criteria or will we be able to have our own free energy type generator in each of our homes that will enable us to run all these obsolete machines without having to replace them? Ideally I know it would be our ultimate goal to have all electrical equipment running more efficiently with the new technology but it would be very expensive to have to replace all these goods now. If we're not paying for the electricity because the power source is our personal equipment we don't really care if the machines we are already using waste electricity or not.

Also, there may be a way to use only minimal electricity from the power company to start up our equipment and then once it's running it won't need any more input electricity. We might be able to have some master device in our house that works like this in lieu of having a free energy generator.

I know I'm jumping the gun here, but I have been plagued by this question for to long.

My goal is to get off the grid completely and that is what I am shooting for.

[Slovenia]

Videos

Jbignes5,

The videos are awesome.

Best Regards,
Slovenia

[Guruji]

Don Smith circuit

Hi 7imix that's an interesting circuit. How then that high voltage would be used to 240v by stepdown transformers? Frequency would be right to 60hz?
Thanks

[7imix]

Awesome videos. I especially like the part where he talks about the kind of energy we use being explosion energy, and another kind of energy being implosion or sound based.

I had the same idea, that current is hot electricity, or light electricity. It vibrates transversely against the medium and causes turbulence, or heat. Potential is like cold electricity, or sound electricity. When impulses of high potential and high frequency are applied it sets up longitudinal waves which radiate outwards from a point in all directions. Since these waves are not wobbling up and down through the medium and dissipating energy randomly, they can reverberate and grow when the impulses are in tune with the medium that is being pumped.

Existing electrical devices use electrical light waves, which wobble against the medium and dissipate energy as heat. Tesla style devices use electrical sound waves of extremely high frequency. Don't kill the dipole... Keep the dielectric and electromagnetic components in alignment instead of in quadrature.

[dragon]

Most excellent series of videos ! Thanks for sharing these. Very enlilghtening indeed.
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[Jbignes5]

Here is something you guys must watch!

YouTube - The Pyramid Code - Ep 2 - High Level Technology part 1/5

This is about ancient technology and guess who's name comes up? Also check out when Siemens found out about this discovery. Tesla was in the know and routinely met with all the greats of that time. What are the chances that Siemens had a chat with Tesla about his experiences.

I know it has 5 parts but please watch this all. This is what helped me to understand this energy we are searching for and I believe it was discovered long before we started our search.

Also this is exactly the shape that I believe the fundamental particle is. I will release more as time goes by, because this is very very esoteric and goes deeper then I could say in one posting.

I am working with a buddy who is gonna try and help me to put it into a video of the actions of these particles and how they are in fact what we have mistaken for magnetic lines of force. Time will tell if we can figure out all the dynamics of these particles and get an accurate simulation of such lines on a small scale. Maybe eventually create a much bigger simulation to show complex interactions when they mass together. But like I said that will come in time.

The only thing that will bring the aha moment is just listening with an open mind and then when everything we know fits like a puzzle to show the bigger picture the aha will happen. Most of what I have been saying is just a massive collection of all the unexplained observations we as man have observed and then condensed into a smaller version that explains it all from very few laws to follow.

Some of these laws include geometry, static laws and fluid dynamics. To name a few of the most basic laws that govern this smaller then we ever imagined realm.

None of the laws that we have for our current system of electronics even applies to this new field other then a few basic components which they could not refute, like charges and voltage. Anything else was invented to support the system they made to sell this new commodity of electricity.

Even Tesla himself regretted releasing the AC system to the public. This was a revelation that made him make the comment that his AC system was most unnatural. This is what set him on the path to figure out what this natural form of energy was really and how he could motivate it and control it.

More to come soon.

[Slovenia]

forest & tree thing

Hi Jbignes5,

I couldn't see the forest for the trees either. There are so many unique aspects to all of this and most guys don't try to make it easy to understand. I'm starting to see little bits and pieces but I still can't connect most of the dots. I'm not an electrical guy though, so maybe in the long run it will be easier for me to accept the new way of doing things since I wasn't taught in school that you couldn't do this stuff.

Anyway, thanks for all the help and encouragement!!

Best Regards,
Slovenia

Well it is very appropriate here. Isn't that what we are talking about. Establishing a positive source then keeping that source separate from our load. That is what we are doing. Remember voltage and charges are positive but completely separate in the natural sense. Voltage is our source which attracts positive charges to our source. If we then design a way to peel off the charges before it gets to the source then we have split the positive!

It was right in front of you the whole time!

[Jbignes5]

Yes, from what I have read in the 100s of megahertz range is something to investigate.



The output goes to a spark gap, cap, and tesla coil. Any number of step down coils and capacitors attached past the high voltage side should be able to run loads without affecting the amount of input power required. I believe lamare is describing how to do this in his thread.

Yeah Tesla said that the higher the range the more umph it has and less effect on matter that is around it. But I suspect that as we get higher in frequency the smaller the charges become and at some point we wont be able to intercept them due to the smaller size. There has to be a happy medium here. Just when it stops messin with matter is where we should stop due to unknown effects at the higher ranges of frequency.

If we take one thing from Tesla it would be that the initial experiments and the notes taken from him should be referenced. I think he said anything higher then 20k should be fine for no ill effects. So 39k like Don did would be the target for now. We can save the highest frequencies for smaller applications. Like micro sized generators.

I want to stay out of the highest range for now till we can get something working and be able to test the unit on everything we know of to make sure this process is non damaging to matter and us.


I see you have done your homework on the link to load...

[Jbignes5]

hmmm...

I feel in my heart that splitting the positive is also important to what we are doing here in this thread. Am I right about this or did I take a wrong turn?? Anyway, the concept has been bugging me at night for some reason. I don't understand it but feel it is important somehow.

Please enlighten me on this thing to if you will. Thanks.

Jbignes5,
Your thread, "Tesla on one wire current" seem applicable also.

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/5543-tesla-one-wire-current.html

There are a lot of posted goodies and it's hard to wrap the mind around it all. There is a lot of stuff to digest and it's all different than what we've been taught in school.

Well it is very appropriate here. Isn't that what we are talking about. Establishing a positive source then keeping that source separate from our load. That is what we are doing. Remember voltage and charges are positive but completely separate in the natural sense. Voltage is our source which attracts positive charges to our source. If we then design a way to peel off the charges before it gets to the source then we have split the positive!

It was right in front of you the whole time!

[7imix]

I would go much higher then 20 khz. Even Don used 39 khz. in his table top system. I am thinking that the higher you go more and more becomes available for you to use because finer charges are easier to move without disturbing matter as a whole.

Yes, from what I have read in the 100s of megahertz range is something to investigate.

I would also throw a cap on the output line as well in series. That way it separates the output from the transformer.

The output goes to a spark gap, cap, and tesla coil. Any number of step down coils and capacitors attached past the high voltage side should be able to run loads without affecting the amount of input power required. I believe lamare is describing how to do this in his thread.