Don't Kill Dipole

[Jbignes5]

Ok

Jbigness5, your right... it won't work as drawn.... I just realized what you were saying....

I just wanted to point that out lol.. Keep at it.. It has merit....

[Jbignes5]

Also...

Please understand guys and gals that I by no means know it all. I will never admit to that ever. I have read more then my share of all the greats even Einstein. The one thing that separates the good from the bad is to stay open about all of this. If I say something that doesn't make sense or doesn't fit your ideas that make sense to you let me know. I will try to offer any help to understand this based on my understanding. If it helps you and makes sense when we look at all of the universe then I have done my job I guess... Heh..

I am seeing a lot of new stuff coming out now that is being accepted because they can not refute it. This is because we are coming loaded with experiments that prove our points. Always question and always experiment. No one will be able to answer your questions on a truthful level better then you doing it!

I have done a lot of experiments over the years that has opened my eyes up to many new ideas that led to many other discoveries. Everyone has this ability to ask questions. So ask them think how to best figure out the answer and answer your question. I will help you to stay on track if need be but I will not stop anyone going down any road that might lead them to the answer they seek. This has always been my creedo my entire life. I might argue my points but that does not mean they are any more right then what you are seeing for yourself.

Also, If you are gonna be going down this road you need to re educate yourself like I have done. I know time is expensive but if you are to truely understand this universe then you need to read read read. There is a lot of good useful information just sitting out there to digest. I try to link what I am researching if it rings true to my understanding. It helps to reference where you got this information and it brings a tad bit of credibility to your side of it when you can say here this is where I got it from.

More later...

[dragon]

Jbigness5, your right... it won't work as drawn.... I just realized what you were saying....
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[Slovenia]

Your Work

Hi Jbignes5,

I'd be glad to help you with archiving your work. We can have a special file for that too.

I'm glad to be of help to you and to whoever else wants what we are looking for.

Best Regards,
Slovenia

I need someone who can go through my work here and put it in context. We have the archiver! Thanks Slovenia! I appreciate this help you are providing us all.

[dragon]

I don't mind criticism, it is a more conventional circuit based on charging and discharging the outer most caps and using the central cap as the potential change. More closely related to the tesla switch. I would love to completely understand how to couple it to the environment. Until that understanding, I can only hope to learn and catch up with someone like yourself. I feel like I entered the class at the last 15 minutes of the hour and I'm trying to understand what happened the first 45..... I'll get there...
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[Jbignes5]

What we do need also.

I'm going to put together a pdf file of this thread. We definitely don't need anything happening to this information.

I need someone who can go through my work here and put it in context. We have the archiver! Thanks Slovenia! I appreciate this help you are providing us all.

[Jbignes5]

Absolutely clear ! Thank you. The only other question that comes to mind right now would be when you stated "suspended via a dielectric" I'm not clear on what you meant...

While contemplating how to create a varied potential I ended up with an idea to drive a pulse motor while shuttling energy back and forth. I don't know if it would actually work, I believe it might. Basically a rotary tesla switch with only the central cap being pulse charged.... see drawing. I don't know if it would be needed to add a pulse to the secondary caps now and then but I suspect you might which could be done through a BEMF on a bifilar winding. Might be an interesting motor in any case...

I do hope the ground symbols you are using are in fact antennas? If they are not then all you have there is a standard circuit. Remember that we need to not complete to a common ground. It needs to interact with the environment to supply the real charges we need for the load. If you turn those ground symbols upwards they mean antennas. That should be the connection you need to get the desired effect.

I also believe that some of the circuit is potentially wrong. Meaning the +,-'s are in the wrong area. I have to think about this one a bit to see what you are trying to say with this design. Do not take this as a criticism of your work. Keep at it and you will get it right. Wether it is wrong I need to analyze it for a bit. See if something comes to mind that might not be correct. Do not let my words dissuade you from trying new things. It is the only way that we are gonna be able to crack this.

[Slovenia]

pdf file of this thread

I'm going to put together a pdf file of this thread. We definitely don't need anything happening to this information.

[Slovenia]

Thanks!!

Hi Jbignes5,

I didn't make this connection before. Thank you very much for clarifying this. You are making a very good tutorial indeed.

My electrical knowledge was so poor I didn't see it before.

Best Regards,
Slovenia

Well it is very appropriate here. Isn't that what we are talking about. Establishing a positive source then keeping that source separate from our load. That is what we are doing. Remember voltage and charges are positive but completely separate in the natural sense. Voltage is our source which attracts positive charges to our source. If we then design a way to peel off the charges before it gets to the source then we have split the positive!

It was right in front of you the whole time!

[Slovenia]

Nice Drawing Dragon

Hi Dragon,

Thanks so much for sharing the drawing. It's terrific stuff.

Best Regards,
Slovenia

Absolutely clear ! Thank you. The only other question that comes to mind right now would be when you stated "suspended via a dielectric" I'm not clear on what you meant...

While contemplating how to create a varied potential I ended up with an idea to drive a pulse motor while shuttling energy back and forth. I don't know if it would actually work, I believe it might. Basically a rotary tesla switch with only the central cap being pulse charged.... see drawing. I don't know if it would be needed to add a pulse to the secondary caps now and then but I suspect you might which could be done through a BEMF on a bifilar winding. Might be an interesting motor in any case...

[Slovenia]

Thanks Ramset (Chet)

Hi Ramset,

Your very welcome. I'm glad to be of help to you and the others.

Thank you for your appreciation!!!

Best Regards,
Slovenia

Slovenia
Thank you for starting this thread,and for your honesty about your skills and understanding!

I will share this link elsewhere ,this harvesting from the Dipole is "tricky" business .

Chet

[dragon]

Wow !

Absolutely clear ! Thank you. The only other question that comes to mind right now would be when you stated "suspended via a dielectric" I'm not clear on what you meant...

While contemplating how to create a varied potential I ended up with an idea to drive a pulse motor while shuttling energy back and forth. I don't know if it would actually work, I believe it might. Basically a rotary tesla switch with only the central cap being pulse charged.... see drawing. I don't know if it would be needed to add a pulse to the secondary caps now and then but I suspect you might which could be done through a BEMF on a bifilar winding. Might be an interesting motor in any case...
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[Jbignes5]

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"Try this: design a coil that is resonant by using full wave half wave or one quarter wave. Feedd that to a leyden jar or cap then have that discharge into a larger leyden jar for use as a storage tank to provide potential over a long time. This is the process Tesla and other have used. It works. The trick is to not use or deplete the storage bank and to utilize the potential only of that storage bank. How do we do that Well one wire would be sufficient to do that Right? If your system is designed correctly then it will not deplete the storage cap and then all one would need to do is maintain that potential if your system is leaky."
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You sort of lost me here... so the main charge cap is discharged into a large layden jar... the one wire circuit from the layden jar to drive a load, so the main cap discharge into the layden jar would be at resonance also correct? Or is this simply a static fill creating a potential? If it's just a static potential how can you draw energy from it without depleting it?

Excellent Questions. Thank you for asking them.

Remember that leyden jar and cap can be switched. Meaning that I can say leyden jar and capacitor could be substituted and mean the same thing.

So for ease of understanding I will use capacitor from now on. So we have a cap pulsing into a larger cap maintaining the potential of that storage (source) cap. We then use the Tesla one wire method from the storage cap to provide that potential without discharging the source potential and connect that to our load. We can then attach a plate to the second part or out of the load and have a potential difference. Would you agree that a body of metal suspended via a dielectric would have a lower potential then the high potential of our source? Well this is how we utilize this kind of a setup. But I am thinking that we need an external link to get useful energy to play in our systems. This would be an in and an out for energy to cycle into and our of our load. Seeing that diodes offer such a source to emit the attractor for energy external to our load that would have to be included. So Source then diode then antenna. we also connect the load to the antenna to draw or use the charges attracted to the antenna through our load and out another antenna to complete the flow. This would not draw from our source but use it as the attractor of external charges to enter our system. The load would be self sustaining in this method as long as it was completely controlled and no leaks were had between the source and load. All for the price of setting up a near perfect source.

This near perfect source I would think would be much like the ark of the covenant that is accounted for in the tales from the bible. This arc was filled with manna <- the bread of life. This Bread is actually a condensation of gold. The perfect conductors that are condensed out of gold or more importantly called white powder of gold or Ormus. This if one did some research is thought of as a super conductor. Housed in a container which is filled with this substance would be considered a super conducting capacitor.Covered with gold to form the ground or ambient plate one could draw from the source any amount of potential that one needed between the source of nothing or absolute zero and the ambient energy of the environment to form a potential difference that could be use most passively. We would of course have to make sure that this did not short out. Great care should be taken to make sure we did not do so because if it did all the power of the difference would cause great destruction that would not be stoppable. The story that comes to mind about this event would be the roaming of Moses in the bible after stealing the ark and following of the ark to the promise land. It took 40 years of them waiting for the capacitor to move to the right spot on the earth where this natural energy flow was the greatest and the capacitor settled down in the highest concentration for that cap to center itself. In the right circumstances if we had the capacitor in an area that was being amplified that difference would be so extreme that huge amounts of source could be utilized. I think this is what the builders of the Pyramids did. They used the amplified energy and had the ark to charge it up and use it.

Through cunning we can devise a method to simulate our current system much like the earlier example that I showed with the variable static capacitor. All a static charge is, is an abundance or lack of charges on a surface. It is very simple if you understand there is only one polarity or lack of that polarity that causes flow in nature between two points. A capacitor is a great way to provide a source and manipulate that source to flow in one direction them switch to another direction causing a movement in the flow in a back and forth nature. That would be the AC approach. A dc approach would be to provide a source and somehow extract or divert the attracted charges or energy before the source has a way to balance with the incoming energy from the environment.

A Dc approach would be harder to do but not when you use vacuum tubes as this allows one to manipulate higher voltages or potentials with little input. I believe this is where Tesla got his greatest effects. DC source in this context means a static non oscillating source. It would be easier to maintain a source if you just had to top it off when it got low or lower in potential. kinda like the buckets filled with water and connected by a small slot down each side of the buckets. if you took some out of the left one the right one would flow into the one on the left till it balanced out. The same principle could maintain the source as it gets depleted in the same method. This is with potential only and not real charges. This is the source or well that we will create a flow with.

Now I talked about a network before and I think that would be a good topic for the next post... So any more questions.

Pardon me for going off topic a bit to the questions posed. My mind tends to not organize these concepts and they tend to spill out in a disorganized method. This is exactly why I need to be here. Someone needs to take these and stick them in their rightful order as I am unable to do this at this point. My mind is racing with all kinds of ideas and revelations from what I research. If I could get someone to take all this and start grouping them together in the related order then it might make more sense to you who are not privy to my understanding.

Energy that we are talking about here is all around us.

[dragon]

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"Try this: design a coil that is resonant by using full wave half wave or one quarter wave. Feedd that to a leyden jar or cap then have that discharge into a larger leyden jar for use as a storage tank to provide potential over a long time. This is the process Tesla and other have used. It works. The trick is to not use or deplete the storage bank and to utilize the potential only of that storage bank. How do we do that Well one wire would be sufficient to do that Right? If your system is designed correctly then it will not deplete the storage cap and then all one would need to do is maintain that potential if your system is leaky."
__________________________________________________ _______________

You sort of lost me here... so the main charge cap is discharged into a large layden jar... the one wire circuit from the layden jar to drive a load, so the main cap discharge into the layden jar would be at resonance also correct? Or is this simply a static fill creating a potential? If it's just a static potential how can you draw energy from it without depleting it?
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[Slovenia]

Very Exciting

Wow, this is very exciting.

Actually this energy is very very convertable. We can use it in it's normal mode or convert it to conventional electricity so we will only need a converter that would be built into this machine that generates from this new source. All one would need to do is have the grid come and disconnect us and walla hook it up to the existing box where the grid used to hook to and you are in business...