I don't really know either, it seems to me - at least trying to dredge through all this info - that splitting the positive might be something like taking the output from the positive, boosting voltage, through a load and running it back into the positive. In a sense that circuit does this at least in part through the base and resistor. I built a JT circuit, similar, that instead of running the LED to the ground as you normally would I ran several LED's back to the pos side of the coil. Basically running more LED's with less input current requirement. Some of what is used is "recycled" to some degree. If I'm off course with this analogy, someone please set me straight !!!
I think the only way we are going to "crack the code" is to build and fail a few times... each failure brings new knowledge and hopefully closer to the final intended goal. If we build it and it works the first time we may not know why...
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Hi Dragon,
Thanks for your input on this too. Things are getting clearer for me, but I still haven't connected the dots yet. One of these days it will all come into view all at once for me I hope. I'm eager to start building something, but I don't want to jump the gun. I want to have something that works when I'm done.
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Originally posted by dragon View Post"Video May Be Applicable" I don't understand how it could be splitting the positive but it certainly is interesting. It's simple enough to put one together and test it.
I've been tossing around ideas relating to Jbigness's description of the HV source, diode, antenna, load, antenna then to a plate or mass. Once this little motor is completed I'm hoping to be able to use it as a tool to experiment with some of the tesla and kacher coils I have. I tend to be more visual in creating things so the electric phenomena tends to be a little more difficult for me. If I can see the outcome then I can relate to what it's doing better.
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"Video May Be Applicable" I don't understand how it could be splitting the positive but it certainly is interesting. It's simple enough to put one together and test it.
I've been tossing around ideas relating to Jbigness's description of the HV source, diode, antenna, load, antenna then to a plate or mass. Once this little motor is completed I'm hoping to be able to use it as a tool to experiment with some of the tesla and kacher coils I have. I tend to be more visual in creating things so the electric phenomena tends to be a little more difficult for me. If I can see the outcome then I can relate to what it's doing better.
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Thanks Altair.
Originally posted by Altair View PostI think this circuit is just a standard voltage booster.
It can light up the bulbs brighter, at the expense of higher current draw from the battery.
Usually, there is a diode between the collector of the transistor and the capacitor, but not absolutely necessary.
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I think this circuit is just a standard voltage booster.
It can light up the bulbs brighter, at the expense of higher current draw from the battery.
Usually, there is a diode between the collector of the transistor and the capacitor, but not absolutely necessary.
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I was told this video shows splitting the positive.
YouTube - TROS - "bemf"
This video link was supplied to me by a friend.
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Hi Jbignes5,
I want to help you any way I can to get this word out. Many people haven't made all the connections that you have made for whatever reason. You have spent a very long time reading and studying the material and I think that has given you a very strong edge over most of us. Thanks again for all you have shared and for being their to help guide us over the bumps.
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Slovenia
Originally posted by Jbignes5 View PostThis is why I am so frustrated. The concepts that I present are actually very easy to see. We are the ones who complicates things with complicated math and laws that are designed to only work with our invention of electricity. Nature has no such problems. Nature on the smallest scale is so simple to understand because that is how it operates. With few laws everything is possible in our universe. Some of the laws are what I call the basic design and others are modifications like masses. When the network gets stacked in such a way to form masses it adds other laws on top of it. You could think of it as like an onion with layers. the fundamental laws define the network and then everything else is according to scale from that point. Change the scale and it modifies those fundamental laws to include grouping and amplification effects of masses. Cycles is a part of the most fundamental laws though because that is what defines a charge and how it could be considered never ending.
The only math that I needed was very basic math. Thats all. Even geometry is considered very basic form of math to describe the relationship of two or more points to each other when connected together.
Fractals are the only thing that is entirely complicated in this whole system. It's subtle hints are buried all around nature. Especially when you start looking at the smallest of what we can see currently or even the largest in the case of our space. We know little of this energy because ever since the beginning we refused to see nature or the natural process as being entirely different and I assure you it is very different then any form of electricity we have except for statics. And to tell you the truth statics was shunned from our science they think it is transitional energy that is unwanted or unusable. The thing is that statics is very very important to the natural processes even our own bodies use statics to maintain and grow with.
Science has done nothing but tell us it is impossible. That there is no such thing as free, not used, energy available to harness. If this was the case then nothing would work outside of our space and we all know this is not true.
What got me thinking along these lines is that even though ancient man didn't have the technical wording for it they understood the natural process because it is simplistic in nature. They could use it because it does not take a super genius to understand this concept. Only a mere connection to the natural world would allow one to see how it operates and I think we would agree that even a primitive man could see that the tree was on fire. That was their proof and thats how simple it can be. They didn't need complicated math to tell them it was or wasn't possible. They saw and experimented with it.
P.S. Got my supply of B12 today. I have started the regiment and time will tell if my self diagnosis was right. Cheers!
Talk to you later,
jbignes5
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I'm thinking of making a small pyramid to experiment with as well... does it need to be made from dielectric materials or can it be made of metal? If it's like a capacitor could it be constructed with a pyramid inside a pyramid with a dielectric material separating the two?
So much to do... so little time...
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I would have to agree, things aren't as complicated as we make them out to be somethimes. Re-learning is the complicated part. If you have a false beginning of learning then you have only that learning to compare.
I've found, through my research, that things simply are not the way I learned. We tend to compare our tests with conventional means, that is, does it really take 100 watts to light a 100 watt bulb. Measuring it by conventional means, it does. Powering the bulb by unconventional means it does not. Both systems are correct in how they operate but one is far more efficient. It only gives the impression of overunity because we are comparing it to what we know or believe to be true.
I could very well be wrong but from what I've seen so far leads me to keep a very open mind and question everything. I believe it's not necessarily the answers we are looking for in as much as the right question... ask the right question and the answer appears....
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Originally posted by Jbignes5 View Post
P.S. Got my supply of B12 today. I have started the regiment and time will tell if my self diagnosis was right. Cheers!
Talk to you later,
jbignes5
Hi jbignes5,
Vitamin B12 is nearly impossible to be absorbed in your body unless it's in a state of proper pH (potential of hydrogen). Anybody who eat things like fast food, coffee, tea, soda pop, white breads, lots of red meat, pasta etc...the fine line between proper levels of acidity ( neutral around 6.8 - 7.0 or acidic below 6.8) go out of whack.
You can go to your local health food store and get pH strips that measure the acidity of your urine. It is not a perfect test because your body's level of acidity changes almost every second but you can get a general overview of sorts if you test several times a day.
Avoid things like coffee, black teas, juice from concentrate (or sugar added) and drink at least 8-10 glasses of purified water per day.
I'm not a doctor or anything but rather an amateur researcher on health related issues. You can check out several things that can help regulate your pH level including Natural Apple Cider Vinegar (Non-Distilled with Mother), fresh ripe lemon juice, baking soda.
There are thousands of websites dedicated to getting the word out about bodies pH, oxygen therapies etc..
Good Luck with your treatment and keep positive
Hope it helps
Will
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This is why I am so frustrated. The concepts that I present are actually very easy to see. We are the ones who complicates things with complicated math and laws that are designed to only work with our invention of electricity. Nature has no such problems. Nature on the smallest scale is so simple to understand because that is how it operates. With few laws everything is possible in our universe. Some of the laws are what I call the basic design and others are modifications like masses. When the network gets stacked in such a way to form masses it adds other laws on top of it. You could think of it as like an onion with layers. the fundamental laws define the network and then everything else is according to scale from that point. Change the scale and it modifies those fundamental laws to include grouping and amplification effects of masses. Cycles is a part of the most fundamental laws though because that is what defines a charge and how it could be considered never ending.Originally posted by Slovenia View PostHi Jbignes5,
Thanks, you are great at explaining these complicated aspects. Well, I guess they aren't really complicated but the problem is that we have been educated so wrong about things for a long long time. Great information!! It helps.
Best Regards,
Slovenia
The only math that I needed was very basic math. Thats all. Even geometry is considered very basic form of math to describe the relationship of two or more points to each other when connected together.
Fractals are the only thing that is entirely complicated in this whole system. It's subtle hints are buried all around nature. Especially when you start looking at the smallest of what we can see currently or even the largest in the case of our space. We know little of this energy because ever since the beginning we refused to see nature or the natural process as being entirely different and I assure you it is very different then any form of electricity we have except for statics. And to tell you the truth statics was shunned from our science they think it is transitional energy that is unwanted or unusable. The thing is that statics is very very important to the natural processes even our own bodies use statics to maintain and grow with.
Science has done nothing but tell us it is impossible. That there is no such thing as free, not used, energy available to harness. If this was the case then nothing would work outside of our space and we all know this is not true.
What got me thinking along these lines is that even though ancient man didn't have the technical wording for it they understood the natural process because it is simplistic in nature. They could use it because it does not take a super genius to understand this concept. Only a mere connection to the natural world would allow one to see how it operates and I think we would agree that even a primitive man could see that the tree was on fire. That was their proof and thats how simple it can be. They didn't need complicated math to tell them it was or wasn't possible. They saw and experimented with it.
P.S. Got my supply of B12 today. I have started the regiment and time will tell if my self diagnosis was right. Cheers!
Talk to you later,
jbignes5
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Hi Jbignes5,
Thanks, you are great at explaining these complicated aspects. Well, I guess they aren't really complicated but the problem is that we have been educated so wrong about things for a long long time. Great information!! It helps.
Best Regards,
Slovenia
Originally posted by Jbignes5 View PostWould you agree that every wire in a system or device is an antenna? Well that is a leak. An interaction that should not be happening at that moment in that space. If we plug the leak then wouldn't the force available at where it is designed to be open be stronger? Plugging the leak is exactly what it means. If we statically shield the wires would they leak anymore?
What about statically shielding anything in the circuit that is not meant to interact with that environment? Would that make the entire circuit lossless? Especially if it was designed to be resonant?
We must think that we are under water. Even though the air is less dense it is still like being under water. Would you build a normal device then toss it into the denser water and expect it to work or work well?
I would think that we should be making our devices in the same method that we would make an under water device except it's not the water we are worrying about. It's the air that surrounds us that is our concern and we need to make sure that the pumps we make are sealed so that they are better pumps. We also need to design an in and an out in our devices because the environment that is around the device is the network we want to borrow charges from. Charges are the fluid of our pump that we want to design. Learning to contain the charges is the hardest thing but we got lucky and Tesla figured that out and thats where static shielding comes in.
I hope this answers your question.
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I usually don't consume fake sugars and I rarely drink soda's anymore. I usually drink juices like cranberry and pomagranite (however you spell it lol).Originally posted by SkyWatcher View PostHi folks, Hi Jbignes5, ASPARTAME and other fake sugar products and things like msg can cause symptoms in the body similar to MS. Pepsi and all diet sodas contain ASPARTAME or other types of fake sugars. I used to drink pepsi and so did my wifes uncle and when we stopped, all the symptoms like shaking or convulsions and headaches vanished. Also, I do recall getting slight vision problems also. That could be the problem, I'd check into it, people probably have varied sensitivity to these toxins. Hope this helps you or anyone else.
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I think this is hereditary from my mother side of the family. I am gonna try the deficiency route and get some B12, folic acid and B6 Vitamins. If that doesn't help I will go get some blood tests and see if it is a deficiency and go the route of shots in the worse case. I don't normally like doctors because I think most are shams but if I know what I am looking for I should be ok.
Thank you for your concern,
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Plugging the leak...
Would you agree that every wire in a system or device is an antenna? Well that is a leak. An interaction that should not be happening at that moment in that space. If we plug the leak then wouldn't the force available at where it is designed to be open be stronger? Plugging the leak is exactly what it means. If we statically shield the wires would they leak anymore?Originally posted by Slovenia View PostHow do we plug the leaks in our electrical circuits, motors, and other devices?
Reference post October 9, 2010 Response to Slovenia regarding post #38.
This is fantastic information indeed. I think this is a big key too. The main thing I learned though was that all the energy is coming from the external side of our devices and not our devices themselves. This is a new way of thinking, but we have to make the change in our thought process before we can move forward with the design of the devices we are trying to design here.
What about statically shielding anything in the circuit that is not meant to interact with that environment? Would that make the entire circuit lossless? Especially if it was designed to be resonant?
We must think that we are under water. Even though the air is less dense it is still like being under water. Would you build a normal device then toss it into the denser water and expect it to work or work well?
I would think that we should be making our devices in the same method that we would make an under water device except it's not the water we are worrying about. It's the air that surrounds us that is our concern and we need to make sure that the pumps we make are sealed so that they are better pumps. We also need to design an in and an out in our devices because the environment that is around the device is the network we want to borrow charges from. Charges are the fluid of our pump that we want to design. Learning to contain the charges is the hardest thing but we got lucky and Tesla figured that out and thats where static shielding comes in.
I hope this answers your question.
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Thank you. Although you think this is all in line, it is not I assure you. Some of my earlier attempts to explain what I was seeing did not go well. Even myself I was blinded by what they teach us. After all I am a certified electronics technician. And was always interested in electronics. You can thank my dad. He worked for GE and did government jobs as far as I know.Originally posted by Slovenia View PostHi Jbignes5,
You have much insight into what Tesla was doing and how things actually work. You also have a talent for describing things in a way that non electrical guys can understand what you are trying to say. I have been going through and reading your posts multiple times as I organize them and have found all your information to be incredible.
Thanks for sharing it with us. The more I read the more I want to know. Some things are finally starting to come into perspective for me.
Best Regards,
Slovenia
I didn't even look at a Tesla coil for like 22 years of my life... When I finally caught wind of an electronic rocket. Man I didn't care if it didn't work it was fascinating. So I payed my 10 dollars and got pleasantly ripped off. No biggie.. It taught me a lot on how to analyze the device and research anything that I didn't know about it. These were the exciting times when dreams could be reality.
When I was finished with the rocket I turned my attention to the library and a whole world opened up to me. From Alchemy to electronics I could not get enough. My attention turned suddenly to computers and my Computer technician skills. Analyzing a computer to find out what is wrong is most challenging to me. I have a 90 percent rate of repair and it showed in my career. I climbed fast and became the best Warranty Tech at my job. This taught me a lot to open my eyes and ears when diagnosing a computer. I could tell what was wrong with a computer in just about 10 minutes without touching much.
I found out I could even diagnose my cars, pre 80's just by the sound it made.
All this means nothing now because When we are talking about what is guiding matter and energy it is all below what we can detect. I could easily be just as wrong about this as anyone. Although I have the ability to see beyond what is real it still leaves me with the feeling that it all could be wrong but the evidence is pointing to it is right. The problem with this is no one will be able to point at a particle and say that is it because in order to see that particle you would have 1 bit of information. Meaning that if we use a particle to see the other particle there can be no other scale to convert it into.
But we can see the influence of that particle as a fractal diffusion. Meaning that in some way it carries out in masses of particles. The geometry is present.
Like my snowflake reference for example. in order for water to crystalize and form complex angles like they do it needs a source seed to grow. Everyone knows that to get a specific shaped crystal one needs a seed crystal to grow from. Well where does waters seed crystal come from then or Salt? Anything that is in nature must have a seed crystal to grow from otherwise the crystal has no form like it does when it has a seed. This is verifiable just by looking into crystal growth and how that process works.
So I ask again where is this seed that water grows from? It must be something that the water drop falls into. The apex of a junction would give the same 2d picture and makes perfect sense when you realize that this network is also inside the water just more dense then in air. When the water falls to a node that has little energy it sucks the energy out of the waters network and a copy of that network freezes in a dynamic way. From center to outer regions of the water get stripped of energy or charges.and it forms in a flat form because of the planar nature of the network at the originating seed location. I am hoping to get a set of videos made that might help with this discussion. It might help to see this action in action to fully get my point across and for you guys to better understand this process.
I so want to make a simulation of this network and see if things would work the way it does in nature automatically. Imagine having a simulation built and not programming gravity in and just have it there as a result of this network. That is what I think happens. Gravity is a byproduct and there is no specific laws to it other then mass and the density of this network in that mass. Everything else would work by itself. Create a mass so big that the network forms cycles by itself and gravity I bet would form.
What I think is responsible for gravity is just a cycle that is setup in our huge mass. That mass has more and more mass stacked on top of it and the lighter masses are affected by the largest mass. It sets up complex interactions all from one simple network that is guided by geometry, static laws and a few fluidic (density, pressures and vacuum) laws as well thrown in there. These are the ones that I know of atm. Static laws can be thought of to explain Planks distance as well. In make it makes perfect sense if it is explained with static laws.
So matter would not exist if this network didn't and visa versa. You need matter to provide a separation in this network. Although there is non matter based networks they tend to fall outside what we think of as real. Take space for instance. Very little charges in the network cause a great many weird effects on matter. Since matter has charges in it and space does not have a lot it tends to suck out most of the charges from matter down to near absolute or near zero charges. There has to be a base charge level for matter to stay matter, if not then matter would fly apart. Since matter doesn't fly apart in outer space then we can conclude there is a set value for charges even in the network in space. It just at such a small amount that even that could be used in that environment to generate the power to move in that space. Since space has lower requirements to establish inertia. When we do get close to a body we will have enough energy because that body has huge amounts of charges gathered around that mass to be used to offset the increased or additional forces. I hope this isn't too far off the path.
As for the explaining of highly technical things to non technical people well that was another skill I honed being a computer tech. Most of my customers were normal people who just wanted to play a game or be on the internet. Their technical skills were very low but I learned that if I could explain it in terms that they understood they would not make the same mistake again and have to pay me yet again to fix the same problem. I was doing them a service by teaching them in terms they understood and this has carried over into my new area of interest. It has become automatic in a sense and I tend to be wordy and long posts for the simple fact that I want you to understand what I am trying to relate.
Anyone got questions on anything? I am trying to get you guys involved in this. It is what is helping me to work out the details as I go. As my research broadens from other questions it focuses me in that direction to learn and convey more of what I have found.
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