Don't Kill Dipole

[dragon]

Thanks Armagdn03 ! It does look very simple to construct. I'll start looking for some roller materials ! Great find !
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Herbalaire Vaporizer

[Armagdn03]

Jbigness, you mentioned the wimhurst generator as being better than the van de graaff. How large a unit would you need to produce a reasonable amount of output? Construction of a van de graaff would be considerably easier even if the rollers and belt needed to be larger. It seems like the input power requirement would be considerably less with the wimhurst. But... on the other end of the HV requirement if a simple kacher could be made up to do the same thing, where, it may be more advantageous to use a solid state set up... The rotating variable cap doesn't seem like a major problem in construction depending on the amount of capacitance needed. ( total number of plates ).

Just thinking ahead a bit for the next project linking to the dipole thread....

@ Dragon, I would not normally suggest this, but as you are an EXCELLENT craftsman, you should consider building this device, as it is brilliantly simple, and construction would not be hard either, and made well could be very effective.

Lorente's Electrostatic Generator, US Patented

[Jbignes5]

Yes Welcome!

Rebus57,

I too have known that he used tubes. The reason is that you can influence high voltages in a triode setup. If you use a diode tube in between the hv source and the triode it allows the presence of hv without shorting out the source.

You went the other way with the steel rods he inserted in the box. I think they were antennas of the same mass as the larger antenna that was on the bumper. This was a focusing event to both raise the voltage value at the smaller antennas and to attract the charges that Tesla knew was outside circulating in the cycle they were caught in.

I suspect he went back to the days of his Niagra falls experience. Except in this instance he had to create a cycle that would be harmless to everything but still useful. Since duplicating his experiment would be a guess at best I started to think about how we could do the same without having to duplicate his box part for part.

This is what brought me to statics and since Tesla in the end of his life believed this was the way and that it had merit it dawned on me that this could have been the method he used.

Right now we are down to a source supply. A dual variable capacitor to get an oscillating flow and a transformer to convert the voltage down to sane levels to connect to the load. Since the static machine would not exhibit load slow down when you draw huge amounts from the Wimhurst machine or the likes then we should be able to get a decent supply out of it with little input. Coupled with my antenna system to draw in more free charges from the environment this should be quite the system.

Experimentation is the key here.

You are just about where I was last year in figuring out what Tesla did. I welcome any input and I hope you are also as open about our ides too..

[Slovenia]

Great Savy (Tesla Pierce Arrow Info)

Daniel / Rebus57,

I've been studying your post very well and it is apparent you have great savy on this subject. I am very excited to have you here helping us.

Best Regards,
Slovenia

[Slovenia]

You Schematic and Drawing

Hi Daniel,

Send your schematic drawing to me at the e-mail address I contacted you from before and I'll put them up here at Energetic. Thanks.

Best Regards,
Slovenia

My internet savy, not so good and I am having NO success trying to copy my schematic and drawing here for ya'll to ponder but fear not I will be successful, someday.

[Slovenia]

Welcome Daniel to Energetic Forum (Rebus57 Tesla Poster on Lets Roll Forum Site)

Hi Daniel,

Thanks for visiting our thread on Energetic Forum. We have some guys here who would like to chat with you. I posted a link to your Pierce Arrow article on Letsroll forum the other day and everyone was very excited about the information you shared and your ideas. Anyway, Jbignes5 is one of our resident Tesla guys, and he'd like to chat with you about Tesla stuff.

Best Regards,
Slovenia

[Rebus57]

[dragon]

Jbigness, you mentioned the wimhurst generator as being better than the van de graaff. How large a unit would you need to produce a reasonable amount of output? Construction of a van de graaff would be considerably easier even if the rollers and belt needed to be larger. It seems like the input power requirement would be considerably less with the wimhurst. But... on the other end of the HV requirement if a simple kacher could be made up to do the same thing, where, it may be more advantageous to use a solid state set up... The rotating variable cap doesn't seem like a major problem in construction depending on the amount of capacitance needed. ( total number of plates ).

Just thinking ahead a bit for the next project linking to the dipole thread....
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Depakote Help

[Slovenia]

Ultimate Secret of Free Energy

This thread is a continuation of Lamare's thread, "The Ultimate Secret of Free Energy". The main difference with this thread is that we are not limiting ourselves to either of the three devices such as that of Stanley Meyer, Gray, and/or Puharich. We are looking for simplification of the concept in this thread and want to build something easy to start with and then go from there. We are in the process of trying to come up with circuits that will give us a free energy device. So, feel free to jump in and help us here. This thread is all about building devices to help get us off-grid so that we won't have to pay for our electrical power ever again.

Lamare, we miss you!! We were not trying to steal your thunder with this thread.

[berilium16]

Could you please cite the patent numbers? I've heard of these conical coils but never seen any patents or pictures of them. I've only seen the pancake coils or magneto-coil which has substantial capacitance.

patent #593,138

[crackahcrackah]

according to some of tesla's patents the conical coil would work at any frequency ... why not make the SGATE with conical coils .. also he had coils with adjustable primary positioning

Could you please cite the patent numbers? I've heard of these conical coils but never seen any patents or pictures of them. I've only seen the pancake coils or magneto-coil which has substantial capacitance.

[dragon]

I've never worked with a conical coil, might be worth a shot to try. Wind one up and see !
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Asianonstopcum

[berilium16]

according to some of tesla's patents the conical coil would work at any frequency ... why not make the SGATE with conical coils .. also he had coils with adjustable primary positioning

[Jbignes5]

Should the dielectric ( plastic ) need to cover the entire unit or just the area under the new cap? I have some sheets of PVC that could cover the entire pyramid if needed, I believe I have enough copper sheet to make a cap as well...

Yeah just make sure it comes down a bit so that it won't self discharge. If you have it do all the pyramid. Copper would be ok but I think you would get a different aspect by using aluminum. Try the copper for now.

[dragon]

Should the dielectric ( plastic ) need to cover the entire unit or just the area under the new cap? I have some sheets of PVC that could cover the entire pyramid if needed, I believe I have enough copper sheet to make a cap as well...
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