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  • nvisser
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    Could this be an example of not killing the dipole?
    Last edited by nvisser; 11-09-2010, 07:29 AM.

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  • Slovenia
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    circuit design to not kill the dipole

    I'm trying to wrap myself around what it means in actual practice to not kill the dipole. I want to build these more efficient systems, so I need to understand how to do this. How to engineer the circuit to know kill the dipole is way over my head right now. If any of you know how to design a circuit that keeps the dipole from being killed please post it for us to see and then explain it to us. Thanks so much in advance!!!

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  • Slovenia
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    Sorry for my misunderstanding!!

    Hi Jbignes5,

    You are a great guy. I very much apologize for misinterpreting what you were trying to say. I didn't read your original post as well as I should have.

    You appear to know this Tesla & Bearden stuff very well. It's not that easy for many of us. Bearden is fairly cryptic in most everything he says but I know he knows what he is talking about and I feel he is trying to tell everyone the real truth. Tesla on the other hand appears to be fairly easy to understand, but when you go to perform the experiments it's like something is missing.

    Like you, I am very frustrated myself but for a different reason. I have been reading and studying both Tesla and Bearden for quite some time now and I still can't figure out how to replicate a free energy device. I know some guys who say they have figured out how to decipher what Bearden is saying in his books and they claim to understand him very well, but they are not sharing what they have found with me. I don't know anyone who has claimed to get a Tesla device to work except for maybe Eric Dollard and I believe he has.

    So, if you know how to make some of these devices, I'd like to network with you. I'd like to build some devices and get the how to information out to the masses.

    Thanks so much for clarifying your post!!! You are the man!!!

    Best Regards,
    Slovenia


    Originally posted by Jbignes5 View Post
    I never meant that as an attack on anyone. I am just frustrated because I guess people don't get the fact that it is a very simple process. One that we all have ignored because it couldn't be that simple. It has to have yards and yards of mathematics and volumes of pages to describe the processes.

    Instead of reading my real post you comment on my frustration instead of where I try to explain myself.

    I apologize, continue with what you were doing.

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  • Jbignes5
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    Originally posted by Slovenia
    Hi Jbignes5,

    With all due respect if you know the answers to our questions please post them on this thread. We are looking for working circuits here. Something that we can build and have a proof of concept device. Something that can hopefully be used in conjunction with just about any electrical device to make it more efficient and in some cases energy independent.

    Many of us have read and studied a lot of Tesla and Bearden and yet for many reasons we still don't have a working device and/or fully understand much of what we read and studied. We're not reading and studying for the heck of it. We all truly want a working device. We don't want to talk about it and how easy it is to understand when nobody is coming forward with a working prototype they are willing to share. Tesla found it easy and I'm 100% sure that Eric Dollard & Bearden know how to make such devices, but many of us need HELP. We need a savior to guide us. If you understand like you have said you do, please guide us. Please give us some tangible information we can use to make such a device.

    Please do not infer that we are a bunch of idiots for not understanding Tesla and Bearden.

    I've read many of your posts but probably not all of them. Thanks in advance for any guidance you are willing to give. Remember that many here are not electrical engineers. Many don't know that much about electricity.

    Best Regards,
    Slovenia
    I never meant that as an attack on anyone. I am just frustrated because I guess people don't get the fact that it is a very simple process. One that we all have ignored because it couldn't be that simple. It has to have yards and yards of mathematics and volumes of pages to describe the processes.

    Instead of reading my real post you comment on my frustration instead of where I try to explain myself.

    I apologize, continue with what you were doing.

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  • Slovenia
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    Thank You!!

    Hi Crackahcrackah,

    Thanks for sharing with us. I'm trying to motivate some folks on our forum to come together and get something built. I think most of us want the same thing, some sort of free energy device.

    A tutorial for it would be nice. Thanks.

    We have very knowledgeable guys and many who are not, so any helps would be very much appreciated. Some of the more knowledgeable electrical guys are still thinking this can't be done because that is what has been taught in all the universities and that presents a big problem for us. We need the advanced electrical guys to help us but we all need to come together and think out of the box.

    If we are going to be successful at building some sort of free energy device we all need to come together and share constructively.

    Best Regards,
    Slovenia


    Originally posted by crackahcrackah View Post
    I would then suggest that you look into replicating tesla's hairpin circuit. And from there look into replicating his high frequency current circuits. Do you all need a tutorial for it? I know how seeing can make it clique, especially if staring over and reading the text just doesn't do it. I'd be happy, in my spare time to help nudge people along. The immediate results of this group work would be access to dirt cheap light, and light which is unlike any other. Custom bulbs may eventually be needed, but that would be down the road a way.

    If there's PMs then pm me on it as I don't always get on here that much.

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  • Slovenia
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    Final Secret of Free Energy (T. Bearden)

    Here is some additional information on Tom Beardens, "Final Secret of Free Energy".

    Additional Information On The Final Secret Of Free Energy

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  • crackahcrackah
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    Originally posted by Slovenia
    Hi Jbignes5,

    With all due respect if you know the answers to our questions please post them on this thread. We are looking for working circuits here. Something that we can build and have a proof of concept device. Something that can hopefully be used in conjunction with just about any electrical device to make it more efficient and in some cases energy independent.

    Many of us have read and studied a lot of Tesla and Bearden and yet for many reasons we still don't have a working device and/or fully understand much of what we read and studied. We're not reading and studying for the heck of it. We all truly want a working device. We don't want to talk about it and how easy it is to understand when nobody is coming forward with a working prototype they are willing to share. Tesla found it easy and I'm 100% sure that Eric Dollard & Bearden know how to make such devices, but many of us need HELP. We need a savior to guide us. If you understand like you have said you do, please guide us. Please give us some tangible information we can use to make such a device.

    Please do not infer that we are a bunch of idiots for not understanding Tesla and Bearden.

    I've read many of your posts but probably not all of them. Thanks in advance for any guidance you are willing to give. Remember that many here are not electrical engineers. Many don't know that much about electricity.

    Best Regards,
    Slovenia

    I would then suggest that you look into replicating tesla's hairpin circuit. And from there look into replicating his high frequency current circuits. Do you all need a tutorial for it? I know how seeing can make it clique, especially if staring over and reading the text just doesn't do it. I'd be happy, in my spare time to help nudge people along. The immediate results of this group work would be access to dirt cheap light, and light which is unlike any other. Custom bulbs may eventually be needed, but that would be down the road a way.

    If there's PMs then pm me on it as I don't always get on here that much.

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  • Slovenia
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    Thanks

    Hi Sucahyo,

    Thanks for sharing. Interesting information.

    Best Regards,
    David Fine

    Originally posted by sucahyo View Post
    Any radiant circuit can produce scalar. Some believe that self cancelling induction coil produce scalar the most.


    Maybe Orac based like mentioned on Paulo Correa patents or caudaceus coil based like Prof. Seike or Dr. Samuel P. Faile.

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  • sucahyo
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    Originally posted by Slovenia View Post
    Would you post the circuit that can produce scalar?
    Any radiant circuit can produce scalar. Some believe that self cancelling induction coil produce scalar the most.


    Originally posted by Slovenia View Post
    Also, what ideas do you have about capturing the scalar?
    Maybe Orac based like mentioned on Paulo Correa patents or caudaceus coil based like Prof. Seike or Dr. Samuel P. Faile.

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  • Slovenia
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    Scalar Circuit

    Hi Sucahyo,

    Good to hear from you. You have a very intriguing post there. Would you post the circuit that can produce scalar? Also, what ideas do you have about capturing the scalar?

    Thanks for your post!!

    Best Regards,
    Slovenia


    Originally posted by sucahyo View Post
    For the first step, I think a circuit that can capture scalar / or utilizing scalar potential need to be worked. If we have that, obtaining eletricity from a battery without ever using its current can be done.

    We already have circuit that can produce scalar.

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  • sucahyo
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    For the first step, I think a circuit that can capture scalar / or utilizing scalar potential need to be worked. If we have that, obtaining eletricity from a battery without ever using its current can be done.

    We already have circuit that can produce scalar.

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  • Jbignes5
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    yeah I hear you.

    There is a lot of confusion on the subject and I have not the clue as to why.

    A lot of people think it can not be that easy that there is some sort of trick that nature uses to get it's movement. It's really simple. We have to unthink what our supposed teachers have taught us and trust in the ones who have gone the road before us. Tesla, once you have read his complete journey from beginning to end you will see his revelations and how they focused as he went. We must not take any one patent or lecture out of place and follow his journey into the unknown.

    We must relearn the way from example and then stick to the simple ways of coaxing this energy into our systems. I believe Tesla figured out two ways to bring it into the system. One an active suction of the ambient charges in a field like manner and another of between three focused antennas. These antennas are two inputs and one excess output to recycle the collected charges back into the system. Where charges are involved the ins are small surface area antennas but they also send out the potential we want to form a stream in between the Larger output antenna. There are two input antennas for the simple fact that they share the flow dynamically between the larger antenna. This allows all you want for the load and the rest gets bypassed through the system to be recycled for a another round.

    Two half weight input antennas and 1 full weight output antennas. Now if I haven't confused you enough then I will try to clarify this simple process.

    The input antennas are smaller in surface area then the larger output antenna. This has a focusing or multiplying effect on the smaller surface area antenna, when you look at the beam that is created between the two (small and large antenna) it will look like a triangle or close to that. When you compress water what do you get? Higher pressure right? Now you are getting it.

    Ok that tells you about the antennas. Now lets look at the action that works the beam itself. When two bodies in space are energized with a very high potential it allows the space in between the antennas to organize into a sheet of fluid like motion of the potential carriers only. They flow from input to output antennas. The charges or free ambient electrons flow against the potential in the opposite direction twords the input antenna's. This is a cause and effect process. Voltage causes the charges to move into motion twords the source of that potential. Very simple right?

    Now how do we provide a potential in one direction and divert the charges into our load that are feeding back into the input antenna. As to the exact method I am amiss to figure this out but I do know it was tubes that allowed Tesla to interact with such high voltages and be able to shuttle the energy that came into the unit to be available for the load to utilize. I also know he used static shielding in this method as well since that would be akin to piping for the pressurized charges to flow into seeing that higher frequencies flow outside of the wires this lends credibility to this method.

    Maybe someone with a good amount of experience with tubes could help me out with a suitable arrangement of the tubes to test with the above system?

    Nikola Tesla wrote a Scientific American article, "Possibilities of Electro-Static Generators" in 1934 concerning the Van de Graaff generator (pp. 132-134 and 163-165). Tesla stated, "I believe that when new types [of Van de Graaff generators] are developed and sufficiently improved a great future will be assured to them". From the man himself written about the time he did the Pierce arrow experiment.

    Hmmm...

    METHOD OF AND APPARATUS FOR ELEC - Google Patent Search
    MINIATURE PRINTED CIRCUIT ... - Google Patent Search
    Last edited by Jbignes5; 10-07-2010, 09:17 PM. Reason: Wow revelations abound....

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  • crackahcrackah
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    Originally posted by Slovenia View Post
    I thought it might be good to give a definition of dipole, so I went to my 1910 Hawkins Electrical Dictionary. Well, they don't list dipole as a word but they do list dipolar.

    Taken from Hawins Electrical Dictionary (1910 Version):
    Dipolar.-- Having two magnetic poles; bipolar.



    Tom Bearden tells us not to kill the dipole. All electrical energy is being extracted from the vacuum and when you kill the dipole, you stop that free flow of energy. We have been taught in modern electricity that we need to kill the dipole. We need to ascertain how to redesign our motors, circuits, and whatever to run with the dipole intact.

    We are trying to determine how to run our electrical devices without killing the dipole. This will make them so much more efficient and in some cases we'll be able to appreciate almost free electricity except for the startup cost which will be minimal.


    Feel free to jump in here and help. I am not an electrical guy.
    To be quite honest, I think I'm spinning my wheels here, but I'll repeat myself anyway.

    If one studies the Tesla high frequency current patents, and his lectures on the matter, then this issue doesn't need to be a mystery. The symmetrical capacitors around the break on those circuits, permitted a filtration of the transverse waves from the longitudinal waves. The brief shorting of the circuit prevents the transverse waves from completing their track around the circuit (destroying the dipole), whereas the longitudinal waves (from the ambient environment-pulled in via inductor during signal collapse-NOT BEMF, look at Aaron's thread on the issue.) do complete their journey. We use the longitudinal waves to do work in a novel manner.

    Read the Tesla high frequency patents. Bearden's stuff will make a lot more sense. And it helps to reread, and relisten to Bearden audio's/video's. I pick out new things almost each time I listen/read.

    In one audio Bearden describes the longitudinal waves as "displacement current". Google that. There's a wiki(don't trust wiki much, even the science sections are politically edited) page on the topic.

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  • Slovenia
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    Thank You

    Hi Farmland,

    Thanks for sharing with us. You have some very great ideas and I am going to focus on them immediately. Very good insights indeed!! It's great to have you helping me here.

    Best Regards,
    Slovenia


    Originally posted by Farmhand View Post
    I was thinking about what the number three could have to do with all this as I beleive Nicola Tesla liked the number three,Here's what I think.

    For broken symetry the would need to be three charges. To float a charge there are three phases "charge" "float" and "discharge". And to do that you would need three parts to the circuit The "dipole" the "intermediary" and the "load". That would stop the dipole from being killed.
    And that makes three things with three parts.

    I think the number three is very important in our universe and we should design our circuits to incorperate or use these principals where possible.

    Just a pondering thats all.

    Cheers

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  • Farmhand
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    Broken symetry and the number three

    I was thinking about what the number three could have to do with all this as I beleive Nicola Tesla liked the number three,Here's what I think.

    For broken symetry the would need to be three charges. To float a charge there are three phases "charge" "float" and "discharge". And to do that you would need three parts to the circuit The "dipole" the "intermediary" and the "load". That would stop the dipole from being killed.
    And that makes three things with three parts.

    I think the number three is very important in our universe and we should design our circuits to incorperate or use these principals where possible.

    Just a pondering thats all.

    Cheers

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