Don't Kill Dipole

[Slovenia]

Thanks Rebus57

Hi Rebus57,

Don't worry about the crude drawing. I wondered what kind of material you were writing on. It's been fun trying to ascertain what some of the words are on that strange background. Anyway, I think you did a good job of drawing that freehand and I for one and very very happy to be able to have met you and had a look at your drawings and looked at your other information. Thanks so much!!!

You are quite a character too, I like that.

Best Regards,
Slovenia

Tesla would not be happy with me for posting such crude drawing's. Sorry about that. Thats all for now ya'll behave. Rebus57

[Rebus57]

Sorry for the crude drawings

Tesla would not be happy with me for posting such crude drawing's. Sorry about that. First these are my personal notes, the sketch on the napkin if you will, never intended for public viewing but life is never what you expect. Second they are not complete or do not reflect recent changes which I have tried to relay to you best I remember. Third no access to scanner, my friend took the pic's for me with dig cam. Fourth in 5 yr's of explaining this to many people any who understood what I was doing and could have helped said "good luck with that" over their shoulder as they were RUNNING away, I did not believe anyone would ever listen, thank's for at least having a go at it. It's been on the back burner for a while I've been looking for something to hunt for a strong frequency down low so I can proceed with further design and construction, would be nice to have a target frequency to design towards. Finally before you jump to many conclusions and begin asking too many question's spend a lot of time reading theory and comparing to schematic. It read's in order (top to bottom) to follow schematic and sleep on it for a while it will come to you don't try to rush it let it flow "don't kill dipole"! Because this is so different you must clear your mind of all modern theory and listen to this theory and schematic. Let it soak. By the way a diode seems at first glance the perfect thing to use until you realize several things, when using positive against positive a diode will not function, also I don't want half wave going to CCTube we want a polyphase effect between anode's so we have two opposing force's to interact to cause the "breakdown" I'm after. Also this is a very delicate signal we will be dealing with so we must treat it with "kid gloves" in the beginning we can't use a "hard circuit" we must allow "soft flow" circuit design no hard parts, I believe Tesla used resistors as diode's. Finally what might help on understanding the CC and Output tubes operation, they behave like a "leaky capacitor" the CC Tube really is, during operation it is contionusly being fed by crystal device through ferrite's and will be in a constant state of breakdown or leaking this feeds our CC Rod, this constant inflow should maintain the pressure to fill depleting charge on conductors due to breakdown. Thats all for now ya'll behave. Rebus57

[Slovenia]

Enhanced Pics

Hi Dragon,

I was having a hard time reading all the words on the dark background, so I did my enhancements a lot different than most people. I made them really big, so I divided each pic into about 7 to 9 individual large sectional pics. This way, I was able to see all the details and read most of the words. There are a few words I'll have to run by Rebus57 because I was unable to make them out, but most of the words are very legible now. I was trying to change the background to white, but was unable to do that for some reason. But, they are fairly legible now.

I am in the process of putting together my pdf file now. It's nothing fancy though.

Best Regards,
Slovenia

If you use the "best of the batch" you can email them to me directly. I don't have much space left on the forum either.

I've been going over and over trying to understand the method of altering the potential between the two lines. I believe I have it figured out at least partially. It's easier to see the change with the rotating offset variable capactor.

[dragon]

If you use the "best of the batch" you can email them to me directly. I don't have much space left on the forum either.

I've been going over and over trying to understand the method of altering the potential between the two lines. I believe I have it figured out at least partially. It's easier to see the change with the rotating offset variable capactor.
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[Slovenia]

I Misqued

Hi Guys,

I screwed up. I don't know how I did it, but I did it. Anyway, Rebus57 set me straight on it. I, Slovenia, stated that Rebus57 had a working device and he said this was not so. I got this messed up somehow and I apologize for that big time. Rebus57 said that his circuit only tested the function of the Gray tube theory and got a baseline for his tube designs also tested to see if 12vdc+ could be used to both build his high voltage and oppose it to produce flow in the circuit all tested positive results (to his surprise) so, he moved to come up with the proper device in the spirit of Tesla using the cosmic signal for input. Anyway, I stand corrected and I will hopefully read my e-mails a little more carefully from now on. Thanks Rebus57!!

Best Regards,
Slovenia

[Slovenia]

photoshopped pics in pdf file

Hi Jbignes5,

Yes, I can do that. I just hadn't got around to doing that yet. Originally I just made them for myself so I could try to see what every thing was and hadn't thought about others not having the same capability. I'll load them into a pdf for everyone to see. I have run out of storage space on Energetic, so I might have to have you upload it under your name since mine is maxed out already. Thanks!!

Best Regards,
Slovenia

Can't you put them in a pdf?

[Jbignes5]

Hi Dragon,

I've photoshopped the pics you are asking about. I can see most of the words much clearer now. Some of the handwriting is harder to decipher. PM me your e-mail address and I'll send you all my photoshopped pics. I have quite a few of them for each of the two pictures we were given, so I don't want to clutter up the thread. Thanks.

Best Regards,
Slovenia

Can't you put them in a pdf?

[Slovenia]

photoshop

Hi Dragon,

I've photoshopped the pics you are asking about. I can see most of the words much clearer now. Some of the handwriting is harder to decipher. PM me your e-mail address and I'll send you all my photoshopped pics. I have quite a few of them for each of the two pictures we were given, so I don't want to clutter up the thread. Thanks.

Best Regards,
Slovenia

I noticed this morning they are explained in his other drawing. I spent so much time looking over the schematic I ignored the other photo with the explanation of the tubes. Anyone have a photo shop program that could clear up the descriptions. I'm having a difficult time trying to decifer the words and letters from the background.

[dragon]

I noticed this morning they are explained in his other drawing. I spent so much time looking over the schematic I ignored the other photo with the explanation of the tubes. Anyone have a photo shop program that could clear up the descriptions. I'm having a difficult time trying to decifer the words and letters from the background.
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[Jbignes5]

hmm..

Once again I must reviel my ignorance in order to remove it... Could someone explain the "current collector tube" in Rebus57's schematic. Or send me to a link that explains it's function as well as it's construction and/or it's modern equivilant? Thanks so much...

If you ask me this is the real split the positive action. The tube lets the potential build on the the electrode. And of course this attracts the charges through the antenna in or in of the tube. I believe the source should be dioded so as to let the potential but not let the completion of the charges through the electrode. Then the charges have no where to go but out the charge path. It is the classic three point that gray used but in the right method. Others have tried it but seemed to have gotten it wrong.

[dragon]

Once again I must reviel my ignorance in order to remove it... Could someone explain the "current collector tube" in Rebus57's schematic. Or send me to a link that explains it's function as well as it's construction and/or it's modern equivilant? Thanks so much...
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Uggs

[Slovenia]

Thanks Rebus57

Hi Rebus57,

Thanks for the additional information on your device.

Best Regards,
Slovenia

PLEASE STOP THE BICKERING. I did not intend to debate the paperwork or where I saw it. The facts are that ALL things related to this stuff were purged from the system long ago. I have not in 10yrs playing around with this stuff heard of anyone going in my direction and just wanted to share it with all who might be working towards this device. As for a simple explination my posted theory is as simple as I could make it I thought. Let me try another way. During transmission from your local AM radio station the outgoing signal will "ring" the atmosphere around the transmission antenna and a signal opposite from the origional is generated and will continue to build until outgoing or transmitted signal is blocked completely. To counter this a circuit is between transmitter and antenna tuned to this opposite signal, this "waste" energy is bled to ground through a very expensive copper ground plane buried like a spider web around antenna site. This is what I am trying to achieve, pickup a signal (cosmic) have it generate the "waste" energy on the current collector rod, feed that through the output tubes firing them to get desired output frequency. The key to this is picking up and sorting out with a detector circuit our signal, which I am betting its below 200 HZ ELF and most likley will be found all over the universe. Now as for the prototype. I built a version of the Gray conversion element switching tube using spark plugs for my spark gap, a motorcycle ignition coil for my high voltage, a couple of triacs triggered by a 2 LED blinker cir. instead of blinking LED's it fired my triacs feeding 12 vdc+ to the coil. Spark plug wire from coil was connected to the anode of current collector tube and spark plug connected to 12 vdc+, with power for coil and spark plug both connected to 12 vdc+ the only thing connected to 12 vdc- was a 20 ga wire for blinky cir. and batt voltage stayed at 12.23 steady during operation. The plate for CC Tube was connected to the anodes of the output tubes and spark plugs also used as spark gaps they too were firing indicating power flow through CC Tube, at this point I have not realized to use resistors to split my output tube's voltage so no light bulbs were illuminated, but flow through cir was observed and that was good enough for me to move forward on this path. I knew this cir was not right for final design but worked to test the Gray tube operation. Finally I am trying to stay away from the words of big brother, R@#!^%& (pickup) and T%&*#@!^ (ringing or to ring) and A&%$##@ (current collector rod). Remember go easy on each other.

[Slovenia]

Help us connect all the dots.

Hey Boguslaw.

About splitting the positive. I don't want to discourage you but I think that tip was a sole Gray "invention" and means no more then "have two wires connected from positive of DC source to the "magic" switching device"


Things are simpler then we imagine

[Jbignes5]

So simple....

Splitting the positive is what they coined it. Tesla never made that stipulation. He did use only one half of the components of electricity and then made a way for nature to provide the balance to his load in real power because thats where all free flowing charges or energy exists. Matter tends to lock in the network that charges flow around. This is how matter transforms these charges to an active force. It also includes radiative effects in this process along with conductive forces that bring organization to the free charges or energy.

You got to remember that Tesla was originally well versed in Crookes radiant matter. And I bet he finally made the connection that matter is only a locked in channel to provide a less resistant connection to complete a cycle. As Tesla was figuring out that even air could be organized to conduct through and as he stated the air would become rigid and organized. The facts are there but if you don not go down the same road as Tesla then you miss the whole point to his experiments and consequently his patents.

References:

"Experiments with Alternate Currents of Very High Frequency and Their Application to Methods of Artificial Illumination"

"Experiments with Alternate Currents of High Potential and High Frequency"

"On Light and Other High Frequency Phenomena"

Please read these fully. Read them often and see that Crookes is mentioned as being the basis of his discoveries. Static electricity is also mentioned fully.

Tesla's observation are the main factor in my presentation. Why because he did experiments that provided the proof. Then he took those observations and designed further experiments to build off of. He was by no means perfect and he clearly states this. His earlier attempts at producing a workable system were just that. Errors in judgement both of the people he was working with like J.P. Morgan and with the devices he created based on incomplete methods. That is after all what his AC system was, an incomplete method to utilize this oscillating potential. He even goes to great lengths to further modify those inconsistencies into a better understanding of the process behind all matter and energy influences both on matter and the medium to which they can freely flow.

We on the other hand chose to ignore these findings and pushed him back into obscurity as far fetched or purely imaginative when he had solid proof to the contrary. I am by no means comparing myself to this great man but isn't that kinda whats going on here lately to discredit my findings as well?

[boguslaw]

About splitting the positive. I don't want to discourage you but I think that tip was a sole Gray "invention" and means no more then "have two wires connected from positive of DC source to the "magic" switching device"


Things are simpler then we imagine