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  • gotoluc
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    Originally posted by nat1971a View Post
    Hi nat,

    just saw your video mate ... excellent

    So, would you say you are you the first to replicate Aromaz's no amp draw circuit?

    Could you please post your circuit if it's different then what was posted in the past pages

    Thanks for sharing.

    Luc
    Last edited by gotoluc; 12-07-2008, 01:20 AM.

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  • boguslaw
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    Originally posted by broli View Post
    That's the big misconception. That's not how a Tesla coil is supposed to work at all. The secondary was meant to produce aetheric current around the coil instead of inside the conductor. There also have to be a mass relation as in the secondary has to have the same mass as the primary conductor for optimal results. Sparks are not a good thing they are supposed to be eliminated until you only end up with white fire. Which is harmless to the touch.
    Did you found the reason why the mass must match ? I'm still searching but maybe it is related to efficient flow of "aetheric" streams ?

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  • gotoluc
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    Originally posted by ren View Post
    BTW Luc, I think you are partly onto something there too. I think the open path on his secondary is a big help, but I also think the capacitance inherent in his grounding, along with the resistances of his combined loads, matched to his specific coil IS the reason he has the results he has. Its something that we cant really replicate in its entirety, due to the nature of all the possibilities/variables. Something that the experimenter would need to tinker and test with, just like Aromaz has done. A step in the right direction IS using the same coil he has, it eliminates some of the guess work. Not all coils are created equal thats for sure.

    Aromaz if you could, measure the inductance and resistance of your primary and secondary so that we can take it into account...
    Hi Ren,

    Yes I agree with you ... there could be many things at play.

    One of the reason I asked Corrie for the coil details is, even If I had the secondary henrys reading of his coil my meters probably could not measure it since I tried it on the 2 coils I have and get no readings. I think the henry reading maybe past my meter capability but I have no problem reading the primary

    So as you say, it may save time in just getting the same coils

    One thing that could be helpful is if Corrie to pickup a different make of coil and see if he can still replicate the effect.

    Thanks for sharing

    Luc

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  • nat1971a
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    YouTube - Aromaz replication - Video 23

    Aromaz replication!!!

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  • ren
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    Originally posted by broli View Post
    That's the big misconception. That's not how a Tesla coil is supposed to work at all. The secondary was meant to produce aetheric current around the coil instead of inside the conductor. There also have to be a mass relation as in the secondary has to have the same mass as the primary conductor for optimal results. Sparks are not a good thing they are supposed to be eliminated until you only end up with white fire. Which is harmless to the touch.

    Broli please elaborate, as I am still new to this area too. I understand that the spark is undesireable and is an indication of losses. I provided the link merely as a temptation for others to research LC circuits and the relationships between primary and secondary. If its intent is to provide pure aetheric current as you put it, then how is this accomplished? Perhaps the link implied otherwise, and perhaps its title is misleading, but it nonetheless gave me some insights into the relationships between the primary and secondary. I have read of the weight conditions of primary and secondary before, is this the case in the ignition coil however? Has anyone dismantled one yet?

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  • Bodkins
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    Ren you bugger i was laid in bed trying to sleep when it hit me corrie building has a big steel frame he connects to ground with. so i get up run downstairs and theres you getting there first.

    Hi gotoluc great to have you around looks like we have a anwser with the rep problems.

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  • broli
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    Originally posted by ren View Post
    Im glad you were listening Lid . If you can understand the cause, then you will understand the effects better.

    How Tesla Coils Work
    That's the big misconception. That's not how a Tesla coil is supposed to work at all. The secondary was meant to produce aetheric current around the coil instead of inside the conductor. There also have to be a mass relation as in the secondary has to have the same mass as the primary conductor for optimal results. Sparks are not a good thing they are supposed to be eliminated until you only end up with white fire. Which is harmless to the touch.

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  • ren
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    Originally posted by gotoluc View Post
    Dear Corrie,

    I do believe your coil primary/secondary and transistor combination is bringing your circuit to a perfect resonance and maybe why others are not getting the same effect as you are.

    Could you kindly obtain all the information you can about the coil and transistors you are using in order for us to see if we can obtain them on ebay or somewhere.

    Thank you for your time and sharing.

    Luc
    BTW Luc, I think you are partly onto something there too. I think the open path on his secondary is a big help, but I also think the capacitance inherent in his grounding, along with the resistances of his combined loads, matched to his specific coil IS the reason he has the results he has. Its something that we cant really replicate in its entirety, due to the nature of all the possibilities/variables. Something that the experimenter would need to tinker and test with, just like Aromaz has done. A step in the right direction IS using the same coil he has, it eliminates some of the guess work. Not all coils are created equal thats for sure.

    Aromaz if you could, measure the inductance and resistance of your primary and secondary so that we can take it into account...

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  • Inquorate
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    Spark gap cont.

    Oh yeah, I put a 3kv 1nf cap on either end, stiffen up the spark.. Also to store hv 'time' from coil etc

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  • ren
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    Originally posted by Lidmotor View Post
    @Ren
    This really helped me to understand a little more about what is going on here. Aaron your comments about time mesh with what JB says in this link also. I think that a Tesla coil visually explains what is happening also. Its is fun to play with the BIG sparks but understanding why it happens is more important to the work being done by us here.


    Lidmotor
    Im glad you were listening Lid . If you can understand the cause, then you will understand the effects better.

    How Tesla Coils Work

    Another page that is slightly more technical. And here is another that may be of interest to people.

    Micro Tesla Coil, five dollars $5 dollar tesla coil...

    @ Aromaz. Your comments on the amp meter are interesting. You have noted the effect, but what do you think is the cause? Is it due to your digital amp meters high internal ohmage (usually upwards of 10kohm on some) or perhaps it is more of an inductive element if a coil can also be used? You may find an analogue gauge suits your purpose just fine here because of its internal workings Noted that the amp meter in the positive leg of the circuit restricts its oscillations.... why could this be



    BTW Aaron, I remember you asking some while back whether it makes a difference if the coil is in the negative leg or positive leg of the circuit. I can tell you I tried a simplified Aromaz circuit with it in both and it worked for both. There is something about it in the negative leg though I think. Many of Teslas designs have significant inductance in the negative leg, isolated from the source until switch closure. The ozone circuit is just one of many.


    Aromaz, I do agree with alot of stuff you had to say regarding the use of potential only. You are right when you say that closing the loop kills the effect, for current is allow a path back to its source, eventually leading to a flat battery. You want Unbalance in your circuits, for if there is balance the charged condition of the battery is VOIDED. John Bedini has shown us all of the importance of open loop systems. This is one of the reasons I selected the toroid for experiments, its secondary winding is totally isolated. In essence the lights in my build arent connected directly to the source, and this is what we want.

    I admire your ingenuity regarding the configuration of your HV output. As we are all aware by connecting the HV terminal to the light then from the light to the grounded terminal you are closing the loop, the ignition coil only really has one coil inside of it. I still however question the light output by your system, it would seem from your latest videos that when the lights are switched off there is light, but little illumination. I could be wrong, it is quite difficult to judge light correctly unless you are there in person, the auto adjusting light meter in the camera doesnt make it any easier. Perhaps it is useable for you, you seemed to be able to locate/pick up all those bulbs in the dark in your wireless video easily enough. Your input power is certainly ridiculously low, that much is obvious

    454622 Aromaz. Google it. with Teslas name infront. (Incase you havent already).Look at his diagram. What is "W?" Seems to me that his HV/HF coil is connected to the lights on one end and what on the other??? Your conductive house ground perhaps Which is what....capacitance???

    And what is in his diagram that is not in any of ours? Bodkins picked up on what I was hinting at earlier on. Its the simplest of devices that is seen in perhaps every true oscillating circuit, yet we arent utilizing it in ours yet.
    Food for thought....



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  • Inquorate
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    Spark gap

    Is everyone using a spark gap? Corrie is..
    I'd like to see the effect a magnetically quenched spark gap, or forced air spark gap has on Corrie's system.

    If you melt a glass eyedropper on the thin end over a wire (make a coil just before the spark to hold end of wire in place in middle of tube), and glue a bolt to the wide end of eyedropper with wire soldered to it, you can adjust spark length with screw that fits in glass tube of eyedropper. Thus being sealed (put plumber's thread coating on screw thread to help seal it), the oxygen is ionized in the tube and metal won't oxidize, which stops spark efficiency. Then glue magnet with north facing to spark on one side, and glue another magnet facing south to spark on the other side.

    Using this setup, I got my system oscillating at 20khz where before it was just 1.5khz

    And no overpowering ozone smell, which will cut down on pigeon seed bills later on... :-)

    More to follow.

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  • gotoluc
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    Dear Corrie,

    I do believe your coil primary/secondary and transistor combination is bringing your circuit to a perfect resonance and maybe why others are not getting the same effect as you are.

    Could you kindly obtain all the information you can about the coil and transistors you are using in order for us to see if we can obtain them on ebay or somewhere.

    Thank you for your time and sharing.

    Luc

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  • gotoluc
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    Dear Corrie Lamprecht,

    words cannot express the gratitude that I have towards your intuitive style of research and experimenting. May your name be in the history books as being the first to publicly share this lost but real Universal Science.

    My feelings and dreams were confirming that we are at a point of re-discovering a more complete Universal Science and I can see it now

    @everyone,
    I'm now dedicated to be part of and help as much as I can on the continuation of Corrie's research and I'm quite sure everyone else is.

    There is a great group effort here and I thank everyone for there part to bringing this to blossom

    and to all

    Luc

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  • theremart
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    That reminds me...

    Originally posted by Lidmotor View Post
    @Ren

    It increased the BIG sparks effect and I tried to make a video of it but there was so much electricity in the air that my camera stopped working. Latter on I could smell the ozone all over encluding the hand that I had used to touch things with the HV lead. The smell stayed in my nose for hours. This is probably not healthy. I was wondering when I would start taking care of injured pigeons and grow a dislike for womens jewerly.

    Lidmotor
    I need to put in a big order for bird feed Ozone is not good to breath good to have a fan to dilute it.

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  • Lidmotor
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    Time and LC circuit

    Originally posted by ren View Post
    @ LId and for those who havent seen this page yet regarding Ed gray Tube.

    John Bedinis' EV Gray power conversion tube - 06/05/01

    Please note that it incorporates circuitry that is attached to the motor as well, the main point is the notes on the tubes construction. Id like to see if it makes a difference with the tube if it is sealed/in vacuum.

    @ Aromaz. Well done my friend. Irrefutable proof that amp draw really is that low. Light output looks reasonable too. Like Gotoluc said Id like to see if the wirewound tube makes a difference or not. Some tests with it connected and disconnected would be good. Also a pic or vid of light output in a totally dark room

    Also regarding toroidals and spheres guys. Teslas coils employed these ontop of the secondary to add capacitance to his secondary. A simple page here: Small Tesla coil

    "A Tesla coil is a resonant transformer. It is basically two LC circuits, tuned to the same resonant frequency. The secondary coil and the topload form one circuit; the coil provides the inductance and the topload most of the capacitance. The second circuit is formed by a high voltage capacitor and a much smaller primary coil."

    Theres those words again, capacitance and inductance.....

    @Ren
    This really helped me to understand a little more about what is going on here. Aaron your comments about time mesh with what JB says in this link also. I think that a Tesla coil visually explains what is happening also. Its is fun to play with the BIG sparks but understanding why it happens is more important to the work being done by us here.
    I made a wire wrapped flourscent tube like Corrie's yesterday and used it
    with Nat's tp roll conversion tube. Very interesting results. The wire wrapped tube acts like the secondary in a Tesla coil. The tp roll acts like the capacitor.
    It increased the BIG sparks effect and I tried to make a video of it but there was so much electricity in the air that my camera stopped working. Latter on I could smell the ozone all over encluding the hand that I had used to touch things with the HV lead. The smell stayed in my nose for hours. This is probably not healthy. I was wondering when I would start taking care of injured pigeons and grow a dislike for womens jewerly.
    The amp draw on the system is still way over what Corrie is seeing--- 20 milli amps up to three amps depending on what I am trying to do. Running 5
    CFLs with usable light for under a mill amp looks remote.

    Lidmotor

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