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  • Aaron
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    ionization by collision

    Originally posted by Aromaz View Post
    These electrons collide with and ionize noble gas atoms in the bulb surrounding the filament to form a plasma by a process of impact ionization. As a result of avalanche ionization, the conductivity of the ionized gas rapidly rises, allowing higher currents to flow through the lamp.

    This page has great info on ionization by collision.

    K9 Passage of electricity through gases

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  • Aaron
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    allotropic nitrogen

    Originally posted by Aromaz View Post
    Does anybody have an idea about practical use of NITROGEN as luminence in lamps - or more important as conductor for electricity potential (Volt)?
    Hi Aromaz,

    Please see this thread for info on 'active nitrogen' or 'allotropic nitrogen'.

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  • Lidmotor
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    Tesla's Big Mistake?---article by William Beaty 1999

    Originally posted by ren View Post
    Im glad you were listening Lid . If you can understand the cause, then you will understand the effects better.

    How Tesla Coils Work

    Another page that is slightly more technical. And here is another that may be of interest to people.

    Micro Tesla Coil, five dollars $5 dollar tesla coil...

    @ Aromaz. Your comments on the amp meter are interesting. You have noted the effect, but what do you think is the cause? Is it due to your digital amp meters high internal ohmage (usually upwards of 10kohm on some) or perhaps it is more of an inductive element if a coil can also be used? You may find an analogue gauge suits your purpose just fine here because of its internal workings Noted that the amp meter in the positive leg of the circuit restricts its oscillations.... why could this be



    BTW Aaron, I remember you asking some while back whether it makes a difference if the coil is in the negative leg or positive leg of the circuit. I can tell you I tried a simplified Aromaz circuit with it in both and it worked for both. There is something about it in the negative leg though I think. Many of Teslas designs have significant inductance in the negative leg, isolated from the source until switch closure. The ozone circuit is just one of many.


    Aromaz, I do agree with alot of stuff you had to say regarding the use of potential only. You are right when you say that closing the loop kills the effect, for current is allow a path back to its source, eventually leading to a flat battery. You want Unbalance in your circuits, for if there is balance the charged condition of the battery is VOIDED. John Bedini has shown us all of the importance of open loop systems. This is one of the reasons I selected the toroid for experiments, its secondary winding is totally isolated. In essence the lights in my build arent connected directly to the source, and this is what we want.

    I admire your ingenuity regarding the configuration of your HV output. As we are all aware by connecting the HV terminal to the light then from the light to the grounded terminal you are closing the loop, the ignition coil only really has one coil inside of it. I still however question the light output by your system, it would seem from your latest videos that when the lights are switched off there is light, but little illumination. I could be wrong, it is quite difficult to judge light correctly unless you are there in person, the auto adjusting light meter in the camera doesnt make it any easier. Perhaps it is useable for you, you seemed to be able to locate/pick up all those bulbs in the dark in your wireless video easily enough. Your input power is certainly ridiculously low, that much is obvious

    454622 Aromaz. Google it. with Teslas name infront. (Incase you havent already).Look at his diagram. What is "W?" Seems to me that his HV/HF coil is connected to the lights on one end and what on the other??? Your conductive house ground perhaps Which is what....capacitance???

    And what is in his diagram that is not in any of ours? Bodkins picked up on what I was hinting at earlier on. Its the simplest of devices that is seen in perhaps every true oscillating circuit, yet we arent utilizing it in ours yet.
    Food for thought....



    Ren---Thanks so much for the link to the $5 Tesla coil. I ordered two of them. The site is a real gold mine of things and information. At the upper left hand corner of the $5 Tesla coil link page is a link to: "Tesla coil buiders". That is another gold mine. All the stuff we need is there. This article I found there. It explains much about what we are currently doing here at this thread. Nat and Bodkins you are going to really like this one. It explains how and why Tesla wireless transmission of energy differs from rf transmission. Why he was right about this all along. The how and why of the earth ground link. This is the article by Beaty:
    Tesla's Big Mistake?
    There is no mention there of "modified CFL lighting". That is up to us. As Tesla said....." the future is mine".

    Lidmotor
    Last edited by Lidmotor; 12-07-2008, 06:53 PM.

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  • mlurye
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    Originally posted by boguslaw View Post
    In unmodified CFL there is a cap, which probably is charged during this 3 seconds being discharged then to flash CFL. Better test if this bulb is still working with ordinary AC
    boguslaw you absolutely correct. And I'm using it as efficiency test for my system. It takes 3 sec for my coil to provide enough energy to get CFL to designed brightness. So my system is roughly 1/3 efficient to light the CFL.

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  • Inquorate
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    explosion of thoughts

    I was responding to a message bodkins left on a youtube video of mine ages ago, re fluffy charge and being unable to run a load...

    Got caught up in idea explosion and put everything that came into my mind down... Ended up so it won't fit on as a post here, so I started up a blog page I don't intend to continue with, but it's all there for anyone to read.

    Deep thoughts

    It kinda takes up from where I was going previously with posts re longitudinal aether compression waves and how they interact with transistors.

    I took same principle to capacitors, and things started falling into place. However, it's first draft. Prob hard to read... my brain works in an odd way...

    Ps, it incorporates tiny bits of a book I wrote once after motorbike accident, couldn't walk for almost a year... It includes string theory which I'm realising is a red herring, but asides from that, can be an enlightening read.

    First 2 paragraphs,
    "This book is about the relationship between energy and consciousness. This relationship is too often ignored by science, despite mounting evidence to the contrary. Nor is it fully appreciated by psychologists, and it is over dramatised by enthusiastic adherents to the school of new age thought.
    This book explores the relationship between the nature of humanity, aspects of the mind and emotion, the nature of belief, thought forms and psychology. It covers the emerging studies of chaos, randomness, structure and order in our experience of society, nature and the individual."

    I'll never get round to trying to get it published, 300 or so A5 (book) pages.. Anyone wants a free pdf of it, PM me with email.

    Just keep in mind that aether physics is behind all the quantum phenomena, string theory is elegantly misdirected, and I'm beginning to strongly suspect that the interaction between aether flows polarized by electromagnetic fields is the cause of inertia, as well as of gravity..

    I don't think we're in kansas anymore, toto..

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  • broli
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    If you want to check for radiant energy activity you can use a capacitor in the proximity of the components (don't touch them) and see what happens to its potential. This can be a simple conducting plate hooked to one terminal of the capacitor and a the other terminal of the cap to the ground. You can go around the circuit with the plate and see whether the cap charges and then maybe look at places/angles where it charges most and fastest.

    According to Tesla radiant energy creates electrons (ie electricity) on impact with a conductor. So this can be some sort of a radiant energy meter.

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  • Aromaz
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    For those interested in the why of our tubes

    Here is some nice pieces of education about our wonderful CFL's and the Fuorecent tube: (Edited to key phrases)

    The fundamental means for conversion of electrical energy into radiant energy in a fluorescent lamp relies on inelastic scattering of electrons. An incident electron collides with an atom in the gas. If the free electron has enough kinetic energy, it transfers energy to the atom's outer electron, causing that electron to temporarily jump up to a higher energy level. This is why the collision is called 'inelastic,' as some of the energy is transferred.

    This higher energy state is unstable, and the atom will emit an ultraviolet photon as the atom's electron reverts to a lower, more stable, energy level. Most of the photons that are released from the mercury atoms have wavelengths in the ultraviolet (UV) region of the spectrum predominantly at wavelengths of 253.7 nm and 185 nm.

    This is not visible to the human eye, so must be converted into visible light. This is done by making use of fluorescence. Ultraviolet photons are absorbed by electrons in the atoms of the lamp's fluorescent coating, causing a similar energy jump, then drop, with emission of a further photon. The photon that is emitted from this second interaction has a lower energy than the one that caused it.

    When the light is turned on, the electric power heats up the cathode enough for it to emit electrons. These electrons collide with and ionize noble gas atoms in the bulb surrounding the filament to form a plasma by a process of impact ionization. As a result of avalanche ionization, the conductivity of the ionized gas rapidly rises, allowing higher currents to flow through the lamp.


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  • Aromaz
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    Special Request

    I CAN NOT FIND IT IN THAILAND !!!!

    Could someone please try for me an experiment - most likely UK or Aussie.

    On my system - or any other high voltage line like original Imhothep - PLEASE try and see what are the effects of using a SODIUM VAPOUR light bulb in compatison to our CFL's.

    In the UK they are called SOX - Low Pressure Sodium Vapour.
    Produced specailly by Phillips, GE and some bit by Osram.

    If not sure, refer to this page:
    The Low Pressure Sodium Lamp

    I might be onto something and need to play around with Sodium and Nitrogen as gas in the tube - to replace the fluorecent mercury vapour. First I want to know how they will lit up in the HV single conneciton.

    Further in this line: Does anybody have an idea about practical use of NITROGEN as luminence in lamps - or more important as conductor for electricity potential (Volt)?

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  • boguslaw
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    In unmodified CFL there is a cap, which probably is charged during this 3 seconds being discharged then to flash CFL. Better test if this bulb is still working with ordinary AC

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  • mlurye
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    Ok. Guys for those of you who are playing with Aromaz self resonant Ignition coil schema. Try to put unmodified CFL into the chain, please share what you will see. In my case it was flashing every 3 sec. Current consumption didn't change.
    Last edited by mlurye; 12-07-2008, 02:03 PM.

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  • braden
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    fluorescent tubes

    Could it be that the inside of these tubes are acting like capacitors and the coil is some way extracting this energy

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  • Hoppy
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    Originally posted by gotoluc View Post
    Thank you Corrie for the great detailed photos and parts information

    I really appreciate all the work you have put into this.

    @everyone,

    I just completed some basic tests. The tests was to only try to get a coil primary to resonance and observe the effects. One thing I found that would be important is if you use a Analogue Meter it will give a false reading and if you use a digital meter you will need to set it to AC.
    Even though your source battery is DC the transistor is pulsing the DC through your meter and you will get a false reading if you use it on the DC amp. mode. This DC pulsing is also why an analogue meter will not work as we are pulsing the coil in the 20khz range and they cannot display a correct reading at this frequency due to the analogue needle coil frequency limit.

    Please accept my apology if all of you know this. I'm just trying to make sure we are all on the same page on the way we measure amps.

    Thank you for all your great work and sharing

    Luc

    @ all

    As Luc suggests current readings are not a reliable indicator of true power consumption in this field of HV / HF experimentation. The overal time taken to discharge the battery will reflect the true current drawn by the HV circuit. Also consider the possibility that the HV could be damaging the battery. If Aromaz's setup is really only consuming microamps then the battery will be able to power his circuit almost indefinately using the batteries shown in his video. If this is the case, he will be laughing all the way to the bank!

    Hoppy

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  • nat1971a
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    what i did try was running it at 24 volts...and the lights were going purple....i think 24volts may be to much strain for the bulbs...hence when i tested the wireless parts out it didnt work....had to use a bulb that hadnt been used....but i want to get the exact 2n2222 first and rerun some tests on it

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  • nat1971a
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    didnt have much time for experimenting today....will have another look at it next weekend....will see if i can get the exact 2n2222 that aromaz is using first...and try that out.......

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  • Inquorate
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    @ nat1971a

    Have you tried pulsing your master tranny's base with a radiant charger? I couldn't get my 2n2222 to trigger properly at first, so I tried a 2n3055 as master. It too wouldn't work well. So I took the only oscillator I had on hand, my imhotep fan (99.9hz), and used it to trigger base of master 2n3055 with earth wire on base as well. Ran it for only a couple of minutes. By accident, turned system on later without fan running and she started up. I really don't think 2n2222 is necessary, but whatever it's switching (base) semiconductor is made of is susceptible to radiant waves, right out of the box.

    However, I believe (haven't tested any other transistors except 2n3055, 2n2222, and TIP35c..) any transistor can be 'conditioned'

    I've finished harping on about that now.

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