Imhotep's Radiant Oscillator Video

[theremart]

High voltage

Glowman,
Welcome. Thank you for posting that link. That really helped. The 555 timer circuit is what I have been looking for because it is designed for our application and gave all the parts values. The Jacob's Ladder projects on YouTube show alot of similarity to what we are doing here. I found a video that showed what the spark discharge looks like and SOUNDS like at different frequencies. For those of us without "O Silly Scopes" and just our ears maybe this will help.
YouTube - Ignition Coil PWM Driver

Lidmotor

Man!

I built the Bodkins Lid motor and Mart shocker circuit , and I am having fond memories of being on the farm and having the electric fence nail me a few times he he.

This is SOOO wierd and is the most fun I have had with a circuit since the first SSG I built.

I went to measure voltage, and my volt meter is going crazy. Going to grab my analog one. Every time I go to remove the power from the source battery ZAPPP!. I am going for my rocker off on switch. Also to note if I put only one connection of the volt meter to primary battery positive there is an arc about 1/16 of an inch long! with the volt meter off!

Bodkins, You have something here!....

Mart

[byjoveoldchap]

555 timer IC in conjunction with a 2N3055 transistor to pulse an ignition coil.

Still trying to get hold of an ignition coil so I can built this Imhotep Radiant Oscillator Lite.

I also just would like to add a link I came across while searching for information on ignition coils. There I came across a circuit using the 555 timer IC in conjunction with a 2N3055 transistor to pulse an ignition coil. The link is http://www.geocities.com/mistertippy.../ignition.html

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Great to know you are keen and raring to go!

Are you aware that the initial idea for the *Imhotep Radiant Oscillator Lite* [Light?] used a 12v relay?
You may find that easier to acquire and play with until you can find an ignition coil.

click here for Imhotep Radiant Oscillator Lite website and videos

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[Bodkins]

You Have All Pushed Me This Way.

Next Video Uploading. Way Forward

Nat STAY OFF THE PIPES

[byjoveoldchap]

Byjove,

Congrats on getting the "Wee motor" to self-oscillate. Ren is right about the amp draw though. When we stared this Imhotep Lite project months ago using the relay some of us saw 3 amp!! draws and we all almost gave up. It has been a struggle to get it down to the 300 milliamp range. I hope that you get your CFL hooked up soon and can give us another good report.

Lidmotor

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Understood Lidmotor.

An example is that I tried lighting the cfl bulb tonight, using a small transformer, [250v in, 16v out], but obviously reversing it so that the Imhotep/Bedini/ByJoveOldChap fan motor provided the current into the 16v coil and stepped the voltage up.

This lit the bulb okay, but 4 candles would have provided more light output..! [or 'Fork-andles' as Ronnie Barker would say].

Optimum current was around 700mA, though it would just light up on 200mA.

I want to try the relay idea next, before moving on to ignition coils and helping Nat light up the World

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[byjoveoldchap]

It is unlikely that it is drawing 3 ma

Good work mate. and you too Nat. Its a good feeling of accomplishment when it gets up and running

Just to add something regarding the amp draw. It is unlikely that it is drawing 3 ma, possible, but unlikely. How are you measuring it? On a DMM (digital multimeter) on the 10 amp setting that most of them have anything under 1 is expressed as 0. whatever. 0.3 is actually 300ma. 3 milliamps wouldnt even register on the 10 am setting as it only goes to 2 decimal places on most. So just be sure you are measuring it correctly 300ma is right in the ball park for the solid states of this size, Id assume it is this, especially since it seems to be charging well too.

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Hey, I understand exactly what you're saying Ren and I do get confused quite often, but I put that down to being senile...

I used an Analogue Multimeter 'AVO 1001'. This has the following selections for dc current 0.1mA, 1mA, 10mA, 100mA, 1000mA. I have no idea what I could possibly measure on the 0.1mA scale...!!! - maybe the current a frog generates when he/she/it is swimming???

I used the 100mA scale and it read 3mA. But don't forget, I was only charging 3v Alkaline button cells and not a 12v car battery. Nevertheless, it was charging [if only at 100th of a volt] and it reminded me of Tom Bearden's MEG machine, [Motionless Electric Generator]. All I need to know now Ren, is how do I scale this up...!!!

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[byjoveoldchap]

i wonder how much voltage these cfls can take????

i was just reviewing tesla patent 685 957 apparatus for the utilization of radiant energy for the millionth time and figure 4 is interesting as he dumps the capacitor into another coil to get even higher voltages i wonder how much voltage these cfls can take????

could plug my 2nd ignition coil in there and connect even more lights????

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Oh Nooooooo......

he'll be lighting up the Atmosphere next!... and he's only just started.

Oh well, why not, GO for it Nat

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[Soldyur]

?????

Question?

Never mind.

I think I figured it out. I hope it works. I am fixing to crank it up.

Jason

[Lidmotor]

Welcome

Hi guys. I have been following this thread the last 3 weeks or so. Still trying to get hold of an ignition coil so I can built this Imhotep Radiant Oscillator Lite. This forum contains very useful and exciting information on the renewable energy experiments and tech. I still have to do a lot to catch up with you guys. I also just would like to add a link I came across while searching for information on ignition coils. There I came across a circuit using the 555 timer IC in conjunction with a 2N3055 transistor to pulse an ignition coil. The link is http://www.geocities.com/mistertippy.../ignition.html

Thanks for all the experimenters for doing such great work in improving this idea and trying other alternative approaches. I hope I can join your league of successful circuit builders soon.

P.S Does anyone have design for a (Tesla) coil that have the same output as an ignition coil for this particular project?

Glowman,
Welcome. Thank you for posting that link. That really helped. The 555 timer circuit is what I have been looking for because it is designed for our application and gave all the parts values. The Jacob's Ladder projects on YouTube show alot of similarity to what we are doing here. I found a video that showed what the spark discharge looks like and SOUNDS like at different frequencies. For those of us without "O Silly Scopes" and just our ears maybe this will help.
YouTube - Ignition Coil PWM Driver

Lidmotor

[Bodkins]

glowman

[glowman]

Newbie from South Africa

Hi guys. I have been following this thread the last 3 weeks or so. Still trying to get hold of an ignition coil so I can built this Imhotep Radiant Oscillator Lite. This forum contains very useful and exciting information on the renewable energy experiments and tech. I still have to do a lot to catch up with you guys. I also just would like to add a link I came across while searching for information on ignition coils. There I came across a circuit using the 555 timer IC in conjunction with a 2N3055 transistor to pulse an ignition coil. The link is http://www.geocities.com/mistertippy.../ignition.html

Thanks for all the experimenters for doing such great work in improving this idea and trying other alternative approaches. I hope I can join your league of successful circuit builders soon.

P.S Does anyone have design for a (Tesla) coil that have the same output as an ignition coil for this particular project?

[Bodkins]

Hmmm, negative of the primary to the emitter? Do you mean the positive of the run battery to the + of the coils primary and the negative of the coils primary to the emitter, instead of the collector as most of us have it?

sorry ren negative of the primary battery to emitter.missed it on the drawing.
diodes on cap 1N4007
got my cap from a pc power supply got two will try more branches tonight so you may have a video for breakfast

@ Lid, cool, I was unsure of how you got it to work without a cap Makes sense now. I see your point regarding making it simpler. I actually had some luck getting it to run without the trifilar coil the other day, just an ignition coil and a transistor. Doesnt get much simpler than that! Didnt really pan out however. Perhaps easier is better, especially to start with, but I dont think we've seen the end of the cap pulser, you guys just may need something like it if you want to dump that cap that is filling on the back of the CFL.

get the ignition coil and a transistor in to oscillation no fan simple. great idea ren!!!!

[nat1971a]

i was just reviewing tesla patent 685 957 apparatus for the utilization of radiant energy for the millionth time and figure 4 is interesting as he dumps the capacitor into another coil to get even higher voltages i wonder how much voltage these cfls can take????

could plug my 2nd ignition coil in there and connect even more lights????

[ren]

far from a deity guys, but thanks anyways.

Nat good work, if I remember correctly at the start of this thread someone reengineered the original CFL circuit and I think they mentioned something along the lines of either side of the globe connected to caps or toggling power between caps etc. Anyway, another setup to experiment on and test.

Bodkins I had some unusual behaviour with the HV cap (2100v .98uF) off the CFL, I didnt have diodes on it so I will get back to you when its closer to what you have presented. By the way what diodes did you use? I have nothing to accurately measure the voltage off the secondary. I have a couple of HV diodes lying around here somewhere. Have to find another scrap microwave I think although missus says I cant pull anymore apart until I have got rid of the two under the house

Hmmm, negative of the primary to the emitter? Do you mean the positive of the run battery to the + of the coils primary and the negative of the coils primary to the emitter, instead of the collector as most of us have it?

@ Lid, cool, I was unsure of how you got it to work without a cap Makes sense now. I see your point regarding making it simpler. I actually had some luck getting it to run without the trifilar coil the other day, just an ignition coil and a transistor. Doesnt get much simpler than that! Didnt really pan out however. Perhaps easier is better, especially to start with, but I dont think we've seen the end of the cap pulser, you guys just may need something like it if you want to dump that cap that is filling on the back of the CFL.

Ive been getting the good ole shock every now and then. Im more careful now, after accidently grabbing both HV ends of the coils on 36v. Did a few of these ones



Good stuff guys, keep testing/thinking. Making progress

[nat1971a]

thanks lidmotor


i just moved my charging capacitors so that they are located b/w the cfls and the negative connected to nowhere and they charge through the roof over 200+ volts no problem and got a nasty little shock.....be careful folks....

and now one of the cfls comes on quite well

[Bodkins]

Cheer david great info.
niceone lidmotor yes tuning is a nightmare.
Ren look at the my video dirrection of flow and run with it.
Carl Keep playing listen to ren not me hes a deity
nat topstuff keep working!!
sort on time, sorry all got some pics

!!!!!forgot this bit Negative primary battery to emitter!!!!!!!!!!!!