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  • Lidmotor
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    Originally posted by nat1971a View Post
    ok i am catching up slowly...i got a cap charging too by adding this to the circuit...but my lights are still dimm when connected to ground.


    borrowed the design from boxa888 on youtube
    Utilization of Radiant Energy 1901 Nikola Tesla,My test 4



    YouTube - Utilization of Radiant Energy 1901 Nikola Tesla,My test 4
    Nat,

    Congratulations on getting your setup to work. I have been watching boxa888 for some time and he inspired me to do some of my experiments. I may have to start wearing rubber gloves like Ash said because, like you, I am getting high voltage everywhere. It is fun to light up the bulbs but I'm getting tired of the shocks. I found that to make the CFLs light up bright using the earth ground method-- tuning the circuit was important. Miss the frequency and they won't come on bright. I start by turning the dials down and going up until it works. Today I bumped the drive voltage up to 20 volts and it helped.

    Byjove,

    Congrats on getting the "Wee motor" to self-oscillate. Ren is right about the amp draw though. When we stared this Imhotep Lite project months ago using the relay some of us saw 3 amp!! draws and we all almost gave up. It has been a struggle to get it down to the 300 milliamp range. I hope that you get your CFL hooked up soon and can give us another good report.

    Ren,

    I looked at the LB circuit again and realized that I DID have a cap in the circuit with the cap pulser. It is the big one that I put in the circuit down stream from the drive battery. I put it in to help with the brightness some time ago.. The only thing that bothers me now with the cap pulser is that it eats 30 millamps. Today when I got those "Bodkins" results I'm wondering if maybe simpler might be better.

    Lidmotor

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  • nat1971a
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    ok i am catching up slowly...i got a cap charging too by adding this to the circuit...but my lights are still dimm when connected to ground.


    borrowed the design from boxa888 on youtube
    Utilization of Radiant Energy 1901 Nikola Tesla,My test 4



    YouTube - Utilization of Radiant Energy 1901 Nikola Tesla,My test 4
    Last edited by nat1971a; 10-19-2008, 08:01 PM.

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  • ashtweth
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    Great work dood! @Lid i felt that oucy from here, lets get you some rubber gloves or shoes?

    What to do with excess energy. Well obviously that Cap can charge the Bat in

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  • ren
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    Originally posted by byjoveoldchap View Post
    Well, I can't believe it Ren!

    Whether this was by accident, providence or whatever, I finally found it.

    As I was connecting the run battery tonight, I thought I had a short somewhere as the meter was drawing current and the fan was 'twitching' every time I connected the 2nd wire. I was convinced I had a short somewhere.

    After checking it and trying again, it was still doing it. "Have I blown the tranny again?", I wondered. At some stage I heard a very faint, but high pitched whine. Looking at the meter I saw the voltage on the charge battery increase slightly, I adjusted the pot and it stopped. Reset it and tried again, YES! This is exactly what Ren said.

    So I have just been charging the battery using only 3mA and the voltage increases 0.01 volt, every 42 seconds. Amazing!


    Thanks Ren, I have learned something very interesting here.

    Good work mate. and you too Nat. Its a good feeling of accomplishment when it gets up and running

    Just to add something regarding the amp draw. It is unlikely that it is drawing 3 ma, possible, but unlikely. How are you measuring it? On a DMM (digital multimeter) on the 10 amp setting that most of them have anything under 1 is expressed as 0. whatever. 0.3 is actually 300ma. 3 milliamps wouldnt even register on the 10 am setting as it only goes to 2 decimal places on most. So just be sure you are measuring it correctly 300ma is right in the ball park for the solid states of this size, Id assume it is this, especially since it seems to be charging well too.

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  • nat1971a
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    Thanks Byjoveoldchap.

    Also

    have been putting a neon bulb on most places (even on the cfls) and it lights up.....when i hold one end of it.


    even a small pancake coil not attached to anything near the transistor will light up

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  • byjoveoldchap
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    "If i can build it anyone can with enough time and patience."

    Originally posted by nat1971a View Post
    YouTube - IMHOTEP BEDINI OSCILLATOR LITE CIRCUIT

    My Replication so far

    I am a novice. If i can build it anyone can with enough time and patience.

    Cheers

    Nat

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Congratulations Nat, you deserve success! Well done.

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  • byjoveoldchap
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    " its frequency is too high to be audible"

    Originally posted by ren View Post
    Solidstate can be trickey to start sometimes. Hook everything up except one of the leads to the run battery. Make sure you have a amp gauge in the circuit so you know if it is drawing anything when you connect the last lead. It could be going solidstate and you dont even know it because its frequency is too high to be audible.
    Well, I can't believe it Ren!

    Whether this was by accident, providence or whatever, I finally found it.

    As I was connecting the run battery tonight, I thought I had a short somewhere as the meter was drawing current and the fan was 'twitching' every time I connected the 2nd wire. I was convinced I had a short somewhere.

    After checking it and trying again, it was still doing it. "Have I blown the tranny again?", I wondered. At some stage I heard a very faint, but high pitched whine. Looking at the meter I saw the voltage on the charge battery increase slightly, I adjusted the pot and it stopped. Reset it and tried again, YES! This is exactly what Ren said.

    So I have just been charging the battery using only 3mA and the voltage increases 0.01 volt, every 42 seconds. Amazing!


    Thanks Ren, I have learned something very interesting here.
    Last edited by byjoveoldchap; 09-20-2008, 02:08 AM.

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  • Lidmotor
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    Bodkins cap charging replication

    Bodins,

    Great news today. I managed to get results off the earth ground circuit like what you have been seeing. I don't know if what I did is really what you did, but I sure liked the results. I put a 1300uf 100volt cap in the earth ground circuit with diodes and just kept moving wires and dials around until PRESTO!!! -the amps went to 150milli, the bulbs stayed bright, and the cap volts started going up. I'm looking at the circuit diagram right now and shaking my head. The cap is in Series!! with diodes on both ends and it charged up. Somehow it is being pumped by the circuit. What are we going to do with all this extra energy!!

    Here is the video-- I only got shocked once making it

    YouTube - Bodkins Experiment Replication -- Charging a capacitor

    Cheers,

    Lidmotor
    Last edited by Lidmotor; 09-20-2008, 02:23 AM.

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  • nat1971a
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    YouTube - IMHOTEP BEDINI OSCILLATOR LITE CIRCUIT

    My Replication so far

    I am a novice. If i can build it anyone can with enough time and patience.

    Cheers

    Nat

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  • ren
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    Sometimes I hate living on the other side of the world to most of you, all the discussions happen when Im sleeping Makes for interesting reading when I wake up.

    @Bodkins/Jove. The fixed resistor is there to make sure the resistance can never be nothing. Bodkins in your setup with two pots you have to be careful not to turn both pots to no resistance. Even a 10 ohm resistor is better than nothing. You should be monitoring amp draw and you will see it rise as the resistance lessens. But if there is no safety buffer you could accidently pump alot of current into the base of the transistor. Makes for a very short life. On my window motor I have 100ohm 5watt resistors on the trigger. They soak up any heat that may be present at higher voltages.

    lol @ Carl. Hydro is a whole different ball park mate, but I know how you feel. Its inspiring to read those doc's. Be aware of safety measure that should be present in hydo research.

    @ Bodkins. Ive been filling a microwave hv cap off the light this morning. I cant get accurate readings however on my DVM. Theres a bang/spark when its shorted so I know its working. At some resistance settings the cap appears to flip its polarity and the DVM goes well into the negative. Its wierd.

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  • hh1341
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    Connected

    Bodkins,

    2 coils where connected to 4 sixty watt helicoil lights driven directly by the output of my fan energizer. On 24 volts it would not resonate and was going twice as fast (8000 rpm), in that scope shot.

    Had the coils hooked back to back,(+/-/-/+) and was feeding the output to either end of the 4 bulb string. Excess power was lighting the neon.

    It resonates fine on 12 volts. Going to try more resistance (over 5K) to get SS on 24 volts.

    Carl
    Last edited by hh1341; 09-19-2008, 10:36 PM.

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  • DavidE
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    Gas Plasma Flourescents

    Bodkins

    I found this quote while researching what makes plasma lighting work and thought that there might be a nugget of information that may shed some light on your current research.

    "The resistance of your fluorescent lamp is not fixed, it depends on the current carried: the greater the current, the smaller the resistance. Put in other words, the plasma is a greedy conductor of electricity. Suppose it has just enough free electrons to get a current started. The current causes ions and electrons to move rapidly and to collide violently, and those collisions strip additional electrons off atoms of the gas. Additional electrons increase the current, causing more collisions and producing still more electrons, which create more current, more and still more... In this way, if a fluorescent lamp were directly connected to the power lines, unprotected, its current would rapidly grow until something gave way. The tube might heat up and explode, the wiring might melt... or more likely, the fuse or circuit breaker which protect the fixture would stop the current."

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  • Bodkins
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    Im not the person to ask David can anyone esle help with this?

    I had all the kids i can take anyway

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  • DavidE
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    Safety Question?

    Bodkins

    Any concerns for x-rays produced by high voltage through vacuum tubes?

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  • Bodkins
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    Originally posted by hh1341 View Post
    Here is a scope shot with the Bedini fan running on 24 volts with 5K resistance. I'll try to up the resister and see if I can get her to go SS.

    Carl

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    just ad the ignition coil and it gos SS
    scope Looks like some BUD in there, try the light test, more light when you touch it.
    or try dropping down too 12v and repeat light test look for Buds, see if they change when you touch the Light if they do your affecting the energy movement.
    Last edited by Bodkins; 09-19-2008, 06:45 PM.

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